Will my psu handle this?

[Guest]

Current spec:
Intel core2 quad 6600 2.4g
1x sata 7200 rpm hd
1x Dvdrw
Thinking of getting a radeon 4770 hd graphics card.
My psu is FSP 400 -60 HLN...will my psu handle this kind of card?

 

[Gulli]

Can't find it on google so you will have to post everything the sticker on the side of the PSU says and check if it has one of these: http://www.techaddicts.net/reviews/st60f/st60f.13.jpg

 

[Guest]

The psu has 2 connectors the same as the one in the link (different coloured wires though)..My currrent card is Nvidia 8600 gts.The system is around 2 years old and is an ipower x8610.
The sticker on the psu is kinda basic.
+3.3v=30.0a
+5v=30.0a
+12v1=14.0a
+5vsb=2.0a
12v=0.8a
+12v2=15.0a
+3.3v&5v=152 w max

Thankyou for any advice.

 

[JohnnyLucky]

FSP Group (Fortron) has been around for quite some time. They offer low budget OEM power supplies for off the shelf pc systems and retail psu's. They make several versions of the the 400 watt power supply but they all have one 12 volt rail rated at 14 or15 amps and one 12 volt rail rated at 13 or 14 amps.

I couldn't find a technical review for your specific psu; however, I did find technical reviews of other models. The reviews were not favorable. In fact, the 700 watt model received the lowest score ever of any psu reviewed over ay jonnyguru.com which is a very respectable web site.

If I were you I would seriously consider purchasing a high quality 500 to 550 watt power supply such as those offered by Corsair, PC Power & Cooling, or Seasonic before purchasing a new video card.

 

[Guest]

Thanks for the advice,guess its time to upgrade my power supply before i purchase a decent graphics card .

 

[Gulli]

FSP Group (Fortron) has been around for quite some time. They offer low budget OEM power supplies for off the shelf pc systems and retail psu's. They make several versions of the the 400 watt power supply but they all have one 12 volt rail rated at 14 or15 amps and one 12 volt rail rated at 13 or 14 amps.

I couldn't find a technical review for your specific psu; however, I did find technical reviews of other models. The reviews were not favorable. In fact, the 700 watt model received the lowest score ever of any psu reviewed over ay jonnyguru.com which is a very respectable web site.

If I were you I would seriously consider purchasing a high quality 500 to 550 watt power supply such as those offered by Corsair, PC Power & Cooling, or Seasonic before purchasing a new video card.

Yeah, the fact that they don't give a 12V "combined maximum wattage", makes it impossible for us to determine what it can and cannot power.
These PSU's are both cheap and reliable: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371005 and http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341020 .

 

[JohnnyLucky]

GULLI - One of the 400 watt models did not have a PCIe power connection. I'm guessing it was a generic OEM psu for off the shelf pc's that either had older video cards that did not require psu power or had integrated graphics on the motherboard.

 

[Gulli]

GULLI - One of the 400 watt models did not have a PCIe power connection. I'm guessing it was a generic OEM psu for off the shelf pc's that either had older video cards that did not require psu power or had integrated graphics on the motherboard.

Some FSP's do have a PCI-E connector, but yes, I agree that this PSU is a no go.

 

[delluser1]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/atx-psu8_5.html
The only difference between the "G" and the "H" is the input voltage.
For a basic unit it's OK, wouldn't use it for any vid card that requires external power though.

 

[bobalazs]

FSP 400 HLN is an 80+ power supply. Its a 400 watt power supply, and can run your quad e6600 and 9800gtx easily.

 

[bobalazs]

I wouldn't listen to these people as they do NOT KNOW what they're talking about.
FSP/FORTRON is used in many quality PSUs. Most of their PSUs are awesome, however, a few of them is avoidable.
Some examples of exellent quality: FSP (modell: ATX-300PNF, ATX-350PNF, ATX-400PNF)
FSP Bluestorm (modell: FSP350-60THN-P, FSP400-60THN-P, AX500-A)
FSP Bluestorm 2 (modell: BS2-350, BS2-400, BS2-500)
FSP SAGA (modell: SAGA 350, SAGA 400, SAGA 450) (PNF preferrált, ha van!)
FSP ZEN (modell: FSP300-60GNF)
FSP ZEN (modell: ZEN 400)
FSP Green PS (modell: FSP350-60GLN, FSP400-60GLN)
FSP Epsilon (modell: FX-600GLN, FX-700GLN)
Fsp Everest (modell: 400w, 500w) 80+
Fsp Apn (modell: 350w-60APN, 400w-60APN) 80+
Fsp Ghn (modell: 400w-60GHN, 500w-60Ghn, 500w-60Ghn, 650w-80Ghn) 80+
Fsp Hln (modell: 350w-60Hln, 400-60Hln) 80+
Fsp Paf (modell: 455-Paf) 80+

Fsp contributed to the development of these supplys:
Zalman (modell: ZM360B-APS, ZM460B-APS, ZM500-HP, ZM600-HP)
AOpen (modell: AO350-12ALN, AO400-12ALN, AO500-12ALN)
Nexus (modell: NX-9003 SFB, NX-4090, NX-5000)
OCZ GameXStream (modell: OCZGXS600, OCZGXS700)
OCZ StealthXStream (modell: OCZSXS600)
Antec Basiq Power (modell: Basiq BP350P, Basiq BP500U)
Be Quiet! Straight-Power (modell: BQT E5-350W, BQT E5-400W, BQT E5-450W, BQT E5-500W, E5-550W, BQT E5-600W, BQT E5-650W, BQT E5-700W)
Be Quiet! Dark-Power PRO (modell: BQT P7PRO-450W, BQT P7PRO-550W, BQT P7PRO-650W, BQT P7PRO-750W, BQT P7PRO-850W, P7PRO-1000W, BQT P7PRO-1200W)
Gigabyte Superb (modell: Superb GE-R460V1

 

[shovenose]

i have had bad experiences with fsp power supplies. i would give them a C+ or so on quality.

 

[bobalazs]

i have had bad experiences with fsp power supplies. i would give them a C+ or so on quality.

I bet only the PSU was broken, it did not kill any other pc parts.
Thats where quality starts.
And as I said, "some" of them are not that good.

 

[shovenose]

I bet only the PSU was broken, it did not kill any other pc parts.
Thats where quality starts.
And as I said, "some" of them are not that good.

One of your high quality fsp power supplies blew up, almost shocked me, and killed my p4 and the mobo and the ram!!!
This was an unmodified, not overloaded psu. I was plugging it in, and i still had my hand behind the output fan to see if it worked. When i pressed the power button. BAM!!!So dont tell me fsp is great. Its mediocre like most other generic psu crap, and overpriced. Have a nice day.

 

[bobalazs]

One of your high quality fsp power supplies blew up, almost shocked me, and killed my p4 and the mobo and the ram!!!
This was an unmodified, not overloaded psu. I was plugging it in, and i still had my hand behind the output fan to see if it worked. When i pressed the power button. BAM!!!So dont tell me fsp is great. Its mediocre like most other generic psu crap, and overpriced. Have a nice day.

Proof?

 

[bobalazs]

The above listed PSUs are not things that are top of my head.
They're tried and used throughout the years by a hungarian IT community, some had been personally tested, for official specifications listed.
You can not compare that to some of the "low quality PSU"s youre mentioning.
And just because you had a bad experience, does not automatically mean that all is ***. For you maybe, but let's judge not.

 

[shovenose]

Ok then. Sure maybe i was being a little umreasonable, and sorry about that. But fortron is mediocre - lousy.

 

[bobalazs]

Ok then. Sure maybe i was being a little umreasonable, and sorry about that. But fortron is mediocre - lousy.

i've been the owner of the aforementioned FSP 400-60HLN.
Been running on oc'd E6300@3Ghz. Recently changed the Gigabyte 9600GT to a Gigabyte 485ZL (which is -wrongly- supposed to be used on a 450W PSU) Using a multimeter I calculated an 80% power efficiency.
Even though, in official forms it's rated as 78% efficient.
When you take it apart you can see the small heatsinks.
That is not because it's a cheap way to save money, it is because of the efficiency= efficient PSU-less heat.
Actually not many places sell this PSU anymore, but it's more than adequate for the aforementioned purposes.
The online so called psu calculators are bunch of bogus, many people use it.
What you measure on a psu, is the power that is pulled from the wall socket.
That's how you calculate efficiency.
Most often you can see the by the 12V rails Amperage the capabilities of the PSU.
Actually this HLN series has overvoltage protection etc. So don't buy a crap PSU if you don't want to kill your components.
Just so you see I'm not lying here's a review on a random fsp psu i ran from google. http://www.silentpcreview.com/article280-page3.html

 

[shovenose]

have u noticed that you are the only one saying good things about fsp? also, most of the psus u listed in the 2nd post, under where u said fsp contributed to, those are ok but not amazing psus. the spcr review does show that it is a decent psu, but that is ONE psu-and a special green model spefically desgned to be better.

http://www.fsp-group.com/english/1_product/2_detail.asp?mainid=1&fid=176&proid=655

go to the near botton of the page. look at the amps on the 12v rails. will that run one of my amd athlon64 syte,s? yes...will it run a core i7 with a 5850 and two hard drives? probably not. compare that to the 12volt of this:

http://www.fsp-group.com/english/1_product/2_detail.asp?mainid=1&fid=176&proid=655

now look under the specifications tab. it has more usable power, because afaik a 2rail power supply (like the fsp i linked to at the beginning of this post) you cant just add the rails together, but the psu cant quite do as good as thecorsair, which is 50watts less!!!!

 

[bobalazs]

have u noticed that you are the only one saying good things about fsp? also, most of the psus u listed in the 2nd post, under where u said fsp contributed to, those are ok but not amazing psus. the spcr review does show that it is a decent psu, but that is ONE psu-and a special green model spefically desgned to be better.

http://www.fsp-group.com/english/1_product/2_detail.asp?mainid=1&fid=176&proid=655

go to the near botton of the page. look at the amps on the 12v rails. will that run one of my amd athlon64 syte,s? yes...will it run a core i7 with a 5850 and two hard drives? probably not. compare that to the 12volt of this:

http://www.fsp-group.com/english/1_product/2_detail.asp?mainid=1&fid=176&proid=655

now look under the specifications tab. it has more usable power, because afaik a 2rail power supply (like the fsp i linked to at the beginning of this post) you cant just add the rails together, but the psu cant quite do as good as thecorsair, which is 50watts less!!!!

Okay, i know what you're saying. Though you must also know that most configs don't need a 5-6-7 hundred watt PSU
as average components don't use that much wattage. Take my example, a 400W is more than enough.
If you're using SLI or crossfire you should look elsewhere, get a Corsair.
There are even better PSUs, fine, but I'd rather stick to a trusty FSP than a Deer, a Codegen, or a HKC for example.
With those PSUs i mentioned you get what you pay for.

 

[shovenose]

Ps the second link was to a corsair 400 watt. Oops. Ohwell,
i will agree with you that fsp is better than deer . I am sorry i sort of acted like a jerk.

 

[bobalazs]

Ps the second link was to a corsair 400 watt. Oops. Ohwell,
i will agree with you that fsp is better than deer . I am sorry i sort of acted like a jerk.

check out this new 450w FSP...
i hope the price will be right...
http://80plus.org/manu/psu/psu_reports/FSP%20TECHNOLOGY_FSP450-60PTM_ECOS%202146_450W_Report_Rev%202.pdf

 

[Mousemonkey]

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