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Mephistopheles   07-07-2003 at 01:22:15 AM

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Eden   07-07-2003 at 02:18:50 AM
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Your last one is the best choice IMO.

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Spitfire_x86   07-07-2003 at 02:33:58 AM
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I would like to see Transmeta CPU benchmarks in THG

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sirak   07-07-2003 at 03:02:02 AM
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I like it the way it is.

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Mephistopheles   07-07-2003 at 04:22:48 AM
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I'd think so too, but apparently, some guys are happy with things the way they are. Thank god I remembered to put that option in the poll!!! :smile:

Anyway, as to Transmeta CPUs, well, I don't know enough about them... not even enough, actually, to know if that was a joke or not... :frown:

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Rubberbband   07-07-2003 at 04:25:50 AM
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I'd like to see more Apple vs PC reviews. Then the Mac Fanboys might actually see the light! LOl

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Eden   07-07-2003 at 04:35:17 AM
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Not to disrespect anyone's choice, but personally they'd say they don't want anything new, but the minute THG does, they'll be raving for sure at how odd the findings are. It is only the right way, to add more diversity to THG's hardware benchmarking.

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Mephistopheles   07-07-2003 at 04:41:59 AM
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Yes, having an open mind is usually a good thing...

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camieabz   07-07-2003 at 05:03:44 AM
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It would be nice to see a big, all round comparison with CPUs past & present including the MAC and IA-64 ones.

Not every couple of months, but say once this year, then again in 2005.

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Confoundicator   07-07-2003 at 05:48:24 AM
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I agree. A review comparing all different platforms would be cool. Just to see how the Macs stack up against the newer P4's <i>and</i> the Itaniums, Xeons, and Opterons. [sarcasm]Since the G5's are the fastest computers in the world it would be nice to see where my lowly system stands.[/sarcasm]

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cdpage   07-07-2003 at 07:46:23 AM
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I think the idea of have 1 or 2 a year would be perfect.



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Flamethrower205   07-07-2003 at 08:10:18 AM
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Voted for last option. There have been benches w/ the transmetea actually. I'd also like to see a mac and an equally priced pc head to head :evil:

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zpyrd   07-07-2003 at 08:25:14 AM
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Voted for the last option.

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BigRat   07-07-2003 at 12:58:44 PM
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i wanna see some VIA c3 reviews. I know they suck but they are the only ones who truly use passive cooling

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Spitfire_x86   07-07-2003 at 01:00:27 PM
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AFAIK, there was no benchmarks of Transmeta CPUs. There was only an article about Crusoe

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Mephistopheles   07-07-2003 at 02:00:13 PM
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The level of interest in Itanium is a little sad...

It's such a powerful and well-designed piece of hardware...
The only thing it needed, really, was enthusiasm... Because it certainly rocks the hell out of anything else anyone cares to throw against it. :cool:

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HardWareBoss   07-07-2003 at 05:02:36 PM
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Only can vote once. Tried to vote again it will not let you do it. Unless you have more than one user name with Tom's.

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FallOutBoyTonto   07-07-2003 at 05:15:00 PM
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Another vote for the last option

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Eden   07-07-2003 at 06:49:45 PM
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Why don't you try and look at least in the THG archive?
They DO have C3 benchmarks, in fact about 2-3 articles on it.

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Mephistopheles   07-08-2003 at 04:31:16 PM
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Yes, but THG doesn't seem interested in Apple and IA64. Now why the hell wouldn't they be interested in IA64?... Aren't they hardware enthusiasts?...

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svol   07-08-2003 at 07:37:43 PM
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I don't think many normal customers have the money to go for the IA64 systems. And big companies use whole different ways to plan which will be their next super-PC.

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Mephistopheles   07-09-2003 at 04:35:47 PM
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Maybe you have a point, but Opteron doesn't present itself as that much a reasonable alternative either... It's a server/workstation processor, for crying out loud! I won't buy one for my home. Yet THG reviewed it. If they review a $750 or $850 Opteron (like the 246, which will most likely appear reviewed around here), why can't they review a $700 Itanium 2 - Deerfield? Can you answer me that one?

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slvr_phoenix   07-09-2003 at 05:18:05 PM
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I voted for the last option. Personally though I think that THG <i>would</i> review all of these things <i>if</i> they could. To my knowledge this is how it works:

THG doesn't usually (if ever) go out and buy the systems that they review. The hardware is usually on-loan from someone else (often the manufacturer, but not always) and THG only has it for a certain amount of time before they have to return it. If they're lucky something gets donated permanently.

Now how many companies do you know will loan or donate a nice shiny system built around a G5, Itanium, or Opteron? And even if they did, how likely is THG going to get comparable loans of <i>all</i> of these even close to around the same time to put them into one kick-arse review?

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I understand it, that's the scenario. THG would probably do a review of other hardware if they could, but they can't benchmark hardware that they don't have.

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Mephistopheles   07-09-2003 at 05:32:15 PM
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Hm... you have a very good point there, of course.

I wonder if they actually have any means to contact the manufacturers or something.

But you're right... As I rememeber, for example, with the Duel of the Titans, Intel specifically sent a dual 3.06Ghz Xeon to the test... Why couldn't they, just in order to increase their popularity, loan a Deerfield, at some point?... When it gets launched?...

Ah well, I guess I'm just trying my bit here.

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camieabz   07-09-2003 at 05:39:57 PM
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There's a point.

Lets pretend that the G5 isn't as good as it's advertised. [/snigger]

Would Apple loan a PC if they knew it would get beat?

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cdpage   07-09-2003 at 06:29:13 PM
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Good point,

Perhaps we'll have to wait till they become available to the general public and hope that someone loans one of theirs out.



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svol   07-09-2003 at 07:23:51 PM
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The Opteron is a high-end workstation/low-end server CPU... which comes closer to the budget of a rich enthusiast. Plus it is a total new CPU for the x86 platform (which is the main platform THG reviews), while the IA64 isn't really intended to run x86 code.

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cdpage   07-09-2003 at 07:42:24 PM
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the same could be said about the G5 aswell...

they are great for use as servers too apperantly, but in a few months time they will be releasing there Xserve G5 U1 and U3 solutions too i would presume.

With it there may be a bump in speeds too.

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Mephistopheles   07-10-2003 at 09:59:43 PM
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Ah well, a rich enthusiast could buy a $700 Deerfield, couldn't he? A dual-cpu Deerfield?... As well as a dual-cpu Opteron... Check out [url]www.hp.com[/hp], they sell dual 1.3Ghz Itanium workstations with AGP graphics cards and Windows 2003 for the likes of $7000, single ones for less than $5000. Is that not within a (very) rich enthusiast's budget?...

But anyway, these are workstation CPUs in the first place. So that's my point: x86 or not, if you review a $700 Opteron, you might as well review a $700 Deerfield! There you go. You'll say "yes, but Opteron has more software designed for it" - no, it actually doesn't, at this point. Itanium's software support might be a little slim, but so is Opteron's or A64's, for that matter...

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cdpage   07-11-2003 at 01:39:15 AM
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Correct me if im wrong, but would Mac servers not be a good choice as well? OSX is UNIX based now, so wouldn't that mean that they would be perfect for compatability with PC and MAC all around now?

I took a look a there U1 and U3 a while ago and thought that those were realy nice.

and comparing the prices that you just mentioned...they don't sem all that bad... or do they?

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svol   07-11-2003 at 06:59:50 PM
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Most enthusiast still use x86 based apps and games, and they don't run that well on the Itanium 2.

But yes for the Opteron review they should've put in a Itanium... although we already know that the Itanium would win.

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Mephistopheles   07-12-2003 at 03:02:38 AM
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But yes for the Opteron review they should've put in a Itanium... although we already know that the Itanium would win.


Yes, you're right, it would. Of course, an Itanium system is probably expensive, but hey, as a server/workstation, they're an interesting choice. And if you want to paint an adequate picture of the whole workstation/server market, you might just include Itanium for completeness. And plus, it would show some deluded AMD fans that, though Opteron is interesting, it's nothing to wet their pants about.

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cdpage   07-22-2003 at 07:14:53 PM
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i thought for sure there would be more then that many posts.



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cdpage   08-27-2003 at 07:44:38 PM
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if you haven't noticed the G5's are available now. and now that they are benchmarks "should" be poping up no.

like this one
<A HREF="http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/32498.html" target="_new">www.theregister.co.uk/content/39/32498.html</A>

HOPEFULLY tom's will give a well deserved review on the system too.


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UFO_WARVIPER   08-27-2003 at 08:12:08 PM
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I'm interested in seeing how well the G5 as well as future Mac systems stack up as far as performance and features especially compared against PC's. I've heard so much bad rap as much as I have heard extreme enthusiasm about Mac products and I really don't know who to beleive.

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Eden   08-28-2003 at 05:03:27 AM
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It may sound close-minded and selfish, but we PC users are right, and are to believe. Trust me on that one.

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cdpage   08-28-2003 at 09:14:32 PM
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your right it does sound that way...Not to be condesending but have you seen or used these new G5's and seen how well they stackup or are you just going by what PC users are saying too?

I too have a hard time believing in Mac products.

but from what i remember when the firts G4 was out it 'was' better then any PC at the time.

then of coarse Intel just creamed them. yea, but now that Apple has a new processor and OS and is a 64 bit... you still think that there is NO way that it won't stack up to PC's in performance?

come on now... IBM is makeing the chips now too.

i think that this new system would stack up quite nicely beeting any PC in some areas and being betten in other... just like AMD vr Intel

The question might be how long will they be able to stay sether ahead or in line before falling back again... OR will they accually beggin to jump ferther ahead...

Toms should review it thats all there is.

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mrface   08-28-2003 at 09:33:03 PM
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tom does need to reveiw it but i will stay skeptical until then.


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cdpage   08-28-2003 at 09:44:54 PM
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ditto

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Eden   08-31-2003 at 12:08:59 AM
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Judging on most SPEC results, and the game benchmarks out, you can clearly see Apple's results are biased. They used the cheapest compilers for a Pentium 4 and probably did not equip the P4 system with the 3.2GHZ.

Actually, I work with Macs in my College. I am in multimedia integration, so every visual work is on them while audio is on PCs. We have hefty G4s, I forgot if the main Mac room (also the only one, save for another or two with a few Macs) has Dual G4s. I cannot deny the lovely aesthetic and the OS X interface. (LOVE THAT 19" LCD!)Performance is ok, but just not THAT big. I'm fairly certain we have some Dual 1.025GHZ, but just not everywhere. I think most are 867MHZ. I'll need to verify if all of them are Dual CPU equipped. (that is if not all G4s are duals)

Issue is, Intel's 20-stage pipeline decision makes the P4 jump in performance boosts not just linear and predictable, but definitely can be major. Think of how the jump to 32-bit and using all that memory is to the 64-bit one. It is exponential and can never be reproduced in memory filling speed (as in, how long before we use all that memory).

Although Intel is not going exponentially, the PC market performance is going up dramatically faster than back in the G3 vs P3 days. That alone is enough to prove Intel or AMD can go ahead and step on it. The G5 at 2GHZ Dual was not able to outdo the Opteron or P4 that much. I forget the figures but the PCs were definitely holding up right.

It is in my firm belief that although G5s are powerful systems, they're overpriced and will NOT hold up in time to the Intels and AMDs. Simply put, PCs are leaps more flexible.
With Prescott coming with even more multimedia extensions, you only make your product a PC-favored one.

I like the new Macs' aesthetics, but I think Apple should look beyond that. Most visual production companies are finding PCs to be better and switching, or will be eventually.

As for the 64-bit thing, it's like using Athlon 64's 64-bit feature as the selling point for enthusiasts. That's kinda stupid, we know very well 64-bit won't give us the quantum leap we desire.

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cdpage   09-04-2003 at 08:23:20 PM
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You have alot of realy good points there.

however you say:
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Although Intel is not going exponentially, the PC market performance is going up dramatically faster than back in the G3 vs P3 days. That alone is enough to prove Intel or AMD can go ahead and step on it.
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As with EVERY processor change the speed in which speed bumping occures varies. the G3 and G4 were plagued with Motorola's issues. now that the G5 is IBM do you not think that speed bumping will be better?...mind you it could be worse too... but you jumping the gun and saying that Prescot WILL and the the G5 will not.

You are right the price it a bit much. It is only a bit more then PC's major vendors like Dell or compac or gateway. Unfortunatly you an not Buy Mac's in parts like you can with PC's and they truely are missing out on that and i hate them for it.

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Eden   09-04-2003 at 09:28:07 PM
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It's true the G5 can scale. I recall the next model will be a 2.2GHZ one. However just how good the Dual aspect is, and how far from the theoretical 4GHZ it totals, is still questionable. The Dual 1.025GHZ handled well the P4s until the latest, makes you wonder how a doubling of speed did not yeild results gods yearn for. Seemed to me like the PowerPC 5 is just not as efficient and is intended towards clock scaling.

Ya know, thinking of how costly Macs are, it could be that JUST the optical mouse is 300$! :lol:


EDIT: I just verified today, sadly the main Mac room is equipped with shoddy 867MHZ Uniprocessor G4s while the other room has Dual 1.025GHZ. Mind you the other room has like only 3 of them! I DO have to ask myself though just HOW BIG is the Dual processor upgrade worth.
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cdpage   09-05-2003 at 08:50:32 AM
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$300 For that mouse!!!! OMG its a cool mouse and all but [-peep-] its only one FREEKING BUTTON!!!

DAMN!!

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cdpage   10-02-2003 at 07:50:38 AM
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Ok i looked everywhere for the original post where we discussed the performance per clock cycle but couldn't find it... so i'me just oging to put it here.

I am mearly point out that Per clock cycle the G4 and G5 are better. (in FPU here) yes i realize that is a P4 2Ghz to compare Hz to Hz it makes sence. there is also a p4 2.6. would like to have seen a new one... but i guess from 2.0 to 2.6 its intersting to note that the have the same Per clock cycle FPU.

Anyhow,


NASA has benchmarked Apple's new PowerMac G5. The tests compared the current dual 2GHz PowerMac G5 to Apple's dual processor 1GHz Xserve (G4), dual 1.25GHz G4 PowerMac and Intel's Pentium 2GHz and 2.66GHz processors. According to the research, "overall, the scalar floating point performance of G5 systems is much improved over G4 systems due to better per clock cycle efficiency combined with higher clock speeds. Based on preliminary testing with an existing version of Jet3D (not recompiled or optimized for the G5), it appears that the G5 has about 22% better scalar floating point performance per clock cycle than the G4 systems tested and 32% better floating point performance per clock cycle than the P4 systems tested" The full results can be found <A HREF="http://members.cox.net/craig.hunter/g5/" target="_new">here.</A>


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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by cdpage on 10/02/03 01:53 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

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Eden   10-03-2003 at 03:11:41 AM
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I've been aware of this.

Slvr did a great reply discrediting that, and he had a point. Unfortunately the thread is long buried and I can't recall which one it was.



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cdpage   10-03-2003 at 07:24:51 AM
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yea figured been aware of it.

i knew that too but i didn't think it was that significant.




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cdpage   10-13-2003 at 10:39:08 PM
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I thought that this might be of some intrest to some of you here.


<A HREF="http://apple.slashdot.org/apple/03/10/12/143259.shtml?tid=107&tid=187" target="_new">Slahdot</A> has a breif artical on the new Vergina Tech's Big MAC (G5 Supercomputer) 17.6 Tflops!!! nice!!

there is a video too at the BBC


- Supercomputer
October 9th 2003

Supercomputers - everyone would love one but with a price tag of around $100 million each they're not easy to come by. But in the United States staff and students at Virginia Tech have built one of the world's most powerful Supercomputers for a cool 5 million dollars. It's all to do with plugging together smaller machines. Ian Hardy went to Virginia to see the supermachine for himself.

See Ian's report (Windows Media) <A HREF="http://stream.servstream.com/ViewWeb/BBCWorld/File/worl_click_091003_ian_lo.asx?Media=10363" target="_new">Low</A> | <A HREF="http://stream.servstream.com/ViewWeb/BBCWorld/File/worl_click_091003_ian_med.asx?Media=10364" target="_new">Medium</A> | <A HREF="http://stream.servstream.com/ViewWeb/BBCWorld/File/worl_click_091003_ian_hi.asx?Media=10365" target="_new">High</A>

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<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by cdpage on 10/13/03 11:21 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

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cdpage   10-28-2003 at 10:42:33 PM
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Yes it is basicly just a bump, but i figured now that Panther is availalbe for the Mac(meaning that some the the 64bit apps or what have you have been somewhat optimisized), i should try again to get people to try and get Toms to do a review one the G5 systems.

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cdpage   10-30-2003 at 08:56:43 AM
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I dunno...thats why I...we're trying to get Toms to do a review on it.

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