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September 26, 2009 7:13:27 PM

I'm going to have to build up a new desktop. It will be used for:

Surfing the Internet
Video Conversations via Skype
Watching YouTube videos
Sending Emails

I know that it doesn't require a lot of processing power. What type of CPU would you recommend? I would like something with at least 2 cores. What are your suggestions? Would it be better if I installed Windows XP or Windows 7 on the desktop?

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September 26, 2009 7:21:54 PM

I'd use an i5 as a minimum but for longevity purposes an i7 920 is hardly expensive. @ $280. XP will of course be faster but it's very old and will be losing support in the relatively near future.
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September 26, 2009 7:24:47 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
I'd use an i5 as a minimum but for longevity purposes an i7 920 is hardly expensive. @ $280. XP will of course be faster but it's very old and will be losing support in the relatively near future.


But this PC isn't for gaming. It's for simple tasks. I'm only going to spend about $450 on this computer. The Core i7 and i5 series is out of the question. They are too expensive and have more power than I will need. Keep in mind what this will be used for.

I was thinking about getting an AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor @ 2.8ghz. It looks like the best processor for the money.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Would that be a good choice?
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September 26, 2009 8:49:36 PM

Absolutely. Not everybody needs an overclocked i5 or i7.
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September 26, 2009 9:31:06 PM

mikekazik1 said:
But this PC isn't for gaming. It's for simple tasks. I'm only going to spend about $450 on this computer. The Core i7 and i5 series is out of the question. They are too expensive and have more power than I will need. Keep in mind what this will be used for.

I was thinking about getting an AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor @ 2.8ghz. It looks like the best processor for the money.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Would that be a good choice?

read the sticky and rephrase the post, then we could help you more
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September 26, 2009 10:32:31 PM

daggs said:
read the sticky and rephrase the post, then we could help you more


What additional info do you want? Why don't you just tell me what additional info you want? I already stated what this computer is going to be used for. This is the first computer that I will be putting together, but I am not a moron when it comes to computers. I already know about multithreading, multi-core processors, cache, ram, etc.

The reason why I asked about the cpu is that it will determine if I need a mobo for an AMD processor or a mobo for an Intel processor.
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September 26, 2009 11:45:26 PM

You need next to nothing to do what you're asking for. If you're fairly certain that's the extent of what you need a computer for, I'd actually recommend something like an MSI nettop with an atom processor or the cheapest laptop you can find.
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September 26, 2009 11:57:44 PM

bliq said:
You need next to nothing to do what you're asking for. If you're fairly certain that's the extent of what you need a computer for, I'd actually recommend something like an MSI nettop with an atom processor or the cheapest laptop you can find.


As Bliq said you need next to nothing to do what you want. Dual core at the most.

Now whats your budget for a cpu? We maybe able to find a better cpu for your budget.
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September 27, 2009 12:00:11 AM

bliq said:
You need next to nothing to do what you're asking for. If you're fairly certain that's the extent of what you need a computer for, I'd actually recommend something like an MSI nettop with an atom processor or the cheapest laptop you can find.


I was actually thinking about one of those, but I'm worried that they will be incredibly slow. Right now, I have an old P4 with a single core processor that runs at 2.2ghz (see specs below). I would say that computer is adequate. But I definitely do not want anything slower. Those atom processors run at 1.6ghz. Would they be faster than my P4? Or would they be slower?
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September 27, 2009 12:02:37 AM

warmon6 said:
As Bliq said you need next to nothing to do what you want. Dual core at the most.

Now whats your budget for a cpu? We maybe able to find a better cpu for your budget.


Ideally, I would like to spend no more than $65 on a cpu (and yes, I will buy from the cheapest online retailer).
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September 27, 2009 12:03:05 AM

mikekazik1 said:
But this PC isn't for gaming. It's for simple tasks. I'm only going to spend about $450 on this computer. The Core i7 and i5 series is out of the question. They are too expensive and have more power than I will need. Keep in mind what this will be used for.

I was thinking about getting an AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor @ 2.8ghz. It looks like the best processor for the money.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Would that be a good choice?


Automaticly, I would reccommend the Intel E5200, but if you want to go with an AMD rig, then the CPU you picked is pretty much the same.

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September 27, 2009 12:08:48 AM

mikekazik1 said:
I was actually thinking about one of those, but I'm worried that they will be incredibly slow. Right now, I have an old P4 with a single core processor that runs at 2.2ghz (see specs below). I would say that computer is adequate. But I definitely do not want anything slower. Those atom processors run at 1.6ghz. Would they be faster than my P4? Or would they be slower?


Atoms are slower clock for clock than a P4 at same GHz. This is due to having 512Kb L2 cache on the Atom. P4 has 1mb L2 cache. So no atoms are slower than p4 unless the atom is at like 3 ghz then maybe it would be faster the a p4. (although i never seen an atom that fast :lol:  )

update: opps wrong quote. here right one.

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Ideally, I would like to spend no more than $65 on a cpu (and yes, I will buy from the cheapest online retailer).





Well after looking around i think you chose the right cpu for what you need.
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September 27, 2009 12:09:05 AM

mikekazik1 said:
I was actually thinking about one of those, but I'm worried that they will be incredibly slow. Right now, I have an old P4 with a single core processor that runs at 2.2ghz (see specs below). I would say that computer is adequate. But I definitely do not want anything slower. Those atom processors run at 1.6ghz. Would they be faster than my P4? Or would they be slower?


If your useing a Pentium 4 @ 2.2Ghz, then I'm guessing its on a socket 478 with like... 333mhz FSB.

I'm currently useing a: Pentium 4 3.2Ghz - Hyper Threading - 2MB cache - 800Mhz FSB - 65nm

This CPU is the best for what you need to use it for, as I am a power user and have close to 5-6 applications running at the same time and it only uses 30% of the CPU. Hell, I can even play CoD4 on this CPU with the 8600GT and recive 60FPS+ on medium.

Trust me, go onto ebay, and pick it up for $15. :)  That is of course your only going to be useing it for the appliactions you posted. Right now I can run Photoshop CS4, AVG, Limewire, uTorrent, Firefox, MSN, Word 2003 + many more all back to back and currently only useing 23% of the CPU with all these on.

Go with a LGA775 motherboard, that has DDR2 and a PCI-e expansion for future upgrading, then buy a cheap P4 HT of ebay for 10 - 15 bucks. Well worth it for high-end gaming in the future, as you already have the board for it.

Edit: Also get 2GB of DDR2 Ram @ 800Mhz for another $15 of ebay as it will run like a charm with this CPU.
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September 27, 2009 12:17:28 AM

godbrother said:
If your useing a Pentium 4 @ 2.2Ghz, then I'm guessing its on a socket 478 with like... 333mhz FSB.

I'm currently useing a: Pentium 4 3.2Ghz - Hyper Threading - 2MB cache - 800Mhz FSB - 65nm

This CPU is the best for what you need to use it for, as I am a power user and have close to 5-6 applications running at the same time and it only uses 30% of the CPU. Hell, I can even play CoD4 on this CPU with the 8600GT and recive 60FPS+ on medium.

Trust me, go onto ebay, and pick it up for $15. :)  That is of course your only going to be useing it for the appliactions you posted. Right now I can run Photoshop CS4, AVG, Limewire, uTorrent, Firefox, MSN, Word 2003 + many more all back to back and currently only useing 23% of the CPU with all these on.

Go with a LGA775 motherboard, that has DDR2 and a PCI-e expansion for future upgrading, then buy a cheap P4 HT of ebay for 10 - 15 bucks. Well worth it for high-end gaming in the future, as you already have the board for it.


Well you have nearly the same cpu as i have :D  Although i have 478 pin cpu and it running at 2.8 ghz. it running at 800 fsb.

As for games. My most intensive game is Assassin creed. Have a AGP GT 6200. (although have to run low settings to play it.)
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September 27, 2009 12:31:20 AM

warmon6 said:
Well you have nearly the same cpu as i have :D 


tut tu tut :)  Now you know my CPU would whop your CPU's ass :D 

My current rig for day-2-day use: (and I'm a power user)

CPU: Pentium 4 3.2Ghz - HT - 2MB cache - 65nm
RAM: 2GB DDR2 800Mhz Crucial Ram
GPU: 8600GTS 256MB DDR3

^^ Plays games like CoD4 very well, I'm really not a gamer, as it's never been my thing. But when it comes down to it, my baby can juice any game I desire to play. <3
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September 27, 2009 1:16:46 AM

yeah i know. That dd2 ram, gpu, and higher cpu will beat mine.
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September 27, 2009 4:35:09 AM

you want a complete set, what does it includes? monitor? keyboard? mouse?
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September 27, 2009 5:13:33 AM

Here's a complete build, including monitor, mouse, keyboard, and speakers.

Case: A nice, basic Rosewill mATX case. It's small, but big enough to fit your motherboard and everything. $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147112

CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 240 2.8GHz; The same one you picked out, inexpensive, and perfect for your application. $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103688

Motherboard: ECS A780GM-M3; A basic AM2/+/AM3 board, with integrated graphics capable of decoding HD video. $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135233

RAM: Wintec 2x1GB DDR2-800; 2GB will be plenty enough for you. $25 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161030

HDD: 160GB Western Digital SATA hard drive. $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136075

DVD: LG 20x SATA drive. $29 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136167

PSU: Coolmax CX-400B 400w; I've had no problems out of these PSU's before, and it's plenty enough power for what you need. $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159023

Mouse/Keyboard: Microsoft Wireless Standard Optical Desktop 700 v2; $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109182

Speakers: Logitech LS21; Nice, basic speaker/subwoofer set. These are blue, however, they're also available in green, black, and pink. $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836121028

Monitor: Sceptre X20WG-NagaII; 20.1" widescreen 1680x1050 DVI monitor; nice, high resolution, good looking, too. $110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824112013



With shipping (depending on where you are. I'm in a little town in Florida, so your mileage will vary), it should come to around $480.

This build would suit your needs for a long time.

Good luck!
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September 27, 2009 3:55:41 PM

jedimasterben said:
Here's a complete build, including monitor, mouse, keyboard, and speakers.

Case: A nice, basic Rosewill mATX case. It's small, but big enough to fit your motherboard and everything. $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147112

CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 240 2.8GHz; The same one you picked out, inexpensive, and perfect for your application. $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103688

Motherboard: ECS A780GM-M3; A basic AM2/+/AM3 board, with integrated graphics capable of decoding HD video. $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135233

RAM: Wintec 2x1GB DDR2-800; 2GB will be plenty enough for you. $25 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161030

HDD: 160GB Western Digital SATA hard drive. $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136075

DVD: LG 20x SATA drive. $29 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136167

PSU: Coolmax CX-400B 400w; I've had no problems out of these PSU's before, and it's plenty enough power for what you need. $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159023

Mouse/Keyboard: Microsoft Wireless Standard Optical Desktop 700 v2; $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109182

Speakers: Logitech LS21; Nice, basic speaker/subwoofer set. These are blue, however, they're also available in green, black, and pink. $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836121028

Monitor: Sceptre X20WG-NagaII; 20.1" widescreen 1680x1050 DVI monitor; nice, high resolution, good looking, too. $110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824112013



With shipping (depending on where you are. I'm in a little town in Florida, so your mileage will vary), it should come to around $480.

This build would suit your needs for a long time.

Good luck!


+1 from me!

BUT, instead of the case/monitor/keyboard mouse combo, he should get himself the Phenom II X4 or somthing, or the Q6600. He most probbally owns a case/monitor etc.
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September 27, 2009 6:29:53 PM

godbrother said:
+1 from me!

BUT, instead of the case/monitor/keyboard mouse combo, he should get himself the Phenom II X4 or somthing, or the Q6600. He most probbally owns a case/monitor etc.

Even so, he's not going to see the difference, as he isn't doing anything intensive enough to stress a quad.
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September 27, 2009 8:47:37 PM

jedimasterben said:
Even so, he's not going to see the difference, as he isn't doing anything intensive enough to stress a quad.


You are right, I won't be doing anything quad intensive with it. Quad core would be over the top for my purposes (since this desktop will only serve the most basic of functions). I've done some more surfing on newegg and there are four cpus that I narrowed my search down to.

There's the AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Intel Celeron E3200 Wolfdale 2.4ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Right now, I'm leaning towards the AMD Athlon since it has the highest clock speed. Out of all of the processors listed, is that the fastest one? Or do the intel processors listed hear outperform it?
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September 27, 2009 9:02:12 PM

mikekazik1 said:
You are right, I won't be doing anything quad intensive with it. Quad core would be over the top for my purposes (since this desktop will only serve the most basic of functions). I've done some more surfing on newegg and there are four cpus that I narrowed my search down to.

There's the AMD Athlon II X2 240 Regor 2.8ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Intel Celeron E3200 Wolfdale 2.4ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel Pentium E5200 Wolfdale 2.5ghz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Right now, I'm leaning towards the AMD Athlon since it has the highest clock speed. Out of all of the processors listed, is that the fastest one? Or do the intel processors listed hear outperform it?


Well here some benchmarks of each cpu. (from passmark)

Athlon II x2 240 (score 1,541)
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=AMD+Athl...

Celeron E3200 Wolfdale 2.4 ghz (score 1,312)
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Ce...

pentium E5200 2.5 ghz ( 1,223)
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Pe...


Now you can only take bench marks so far but these are to give you an idea of how powerfull the cpus are. Also these scores are close to each other That you may not even notice the difference between each other.
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September 28, 2009 1:19:33 AM

jedimasterben said:
Here's a complete build, including monitor, mouse, keyboard, and speakers.

Case: A nice, basic Rosewill mATX case. It's small, but big enough to fit your motherboard and everything. $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147112

CPU: AMD Athlon II X2 240 2.8GHz; The same one you picked out, inexpensive, and perfect for your application. $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103688

Motherboard: ECS A780GM-M3; A basic AM2/+/AM3 board, with integrated graphics capable of decoding HD video. $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135233

RAM: Wintec 2x1GB DDR2-800; 2GB will be plenty enough for you. $25 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820161030

HDD: 160GB Western Digital SATA hard drive. $40 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136075

DVD: LG 20x SATA drive. $29 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136167

PSU: Coolmax CX-400B 400w; I've had no problems out of these PSU's before, and it's plenty enough power for what you need. $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817159023

Mouse/Keyboard: Microsoft Wireless Standard Optical Desktop 700 v2; $20 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109182

Speakers: Logitech LS21; Nice, basic speaker/subwoofer set. These are blue, however, they're also available in green, black, and pink. $30 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836121028

Monitor: Sceptre X20WG-NagaII; 20.1" widescreen 1680x1050 DVI monitor; nice, high resolution, good looking, too. $110 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824112013



With shipping (depending on where you are. I'm in a little town in Florida, so your mileage will vary), it should come to around $480.

This build would suit your needs for a long time.

Good luck!


Is there another mobo that I could possibly use? I checked out the reviews on that one and they weren't that good. A lot of people complained that they received a defective motherboard.
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September 28, 2009 4:09:45 AM

For your needs? The most cheapest motherboard on NewEgg. Seriously, a quailty motherboard is useless to you for your needs. Go for the cheapest one.
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September 28, 2009 3:55:56 PM

godbrother said:
For your needs? The most cheapest motherboard on NewEgg. Seriously, a quailty motherboard is useless to you for your needs. Go for the cheapest one.


But a lot of people complained in the review section that it failed quickly of was dead on arrival. I don't want an absolute piece of junk that I will have to ship back.
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September 28, 2009 4:18:54 PM

I don't trust Newegg reviews. Too many people are too stupid about PC building to trust a wiki-like review sectiion. That said, I don't trust ECS, as I have seen them fail more than any other amongst friends and family.

There are better alternatives for just a few more dollars:

The free shipping helps:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I have used Gigabyte boards for years, and they have never failed me. I would recommend the one I am using now (reliable Overclocker, so surely would be reliable in day to day use), but this was the replacement, and the 780g isn't available from newegg anymore.
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September 28, 2009 5:25:42 PM

Ah yes Gigabyte motherboards are very good. Still using a the gigabyte GA-8IPE1000 Pro2 (useing intels p4 487 socket cpu). Its so far lasted me 5 years almost 6 (and counting).
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September 30, 2009 4:03:49 PM

I'm on a Gigabye G31 motherboard. They are the best MicroATX Motherboards I have ever owned in my life. One of the best overclockers too :)  I think it beats most gaming motherboards in my opinion. And I picked mine up for $35USD refurbished. (£20.)

It supports 1333FSB (1600OC) and 1066FSB RAM. PCI-e 2.0 etc etc. As I said, very good board.

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October 4, 2009 9:20:33 AM

For the uses of the computer you mentioned....... do you really need a power hungry desktop?????
I would suggest pickup on of them Net-tops or Atom processor laptops..... well within the budget and if you felt you needed a bigger screen...... buy a big LCD and connect it to the Video out of these new things...... will save you a lotta money :) 
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October 4, 2009 9:51:56 AM

@mikekazik1

Yeah, the E5200 is the strongest of the processors you are picking from warmon6's benchmarks are flawed (or just amd friendly). It beats the AMD 240 at stock clocks (with a 300mhz handicap for intel) and it tends to OC a little higher as well. Both chips are great but the E5200 is the better chip, and probably what I'd go for. Then when you want to upgrade you can just add an extra 1.5ghz OC and BAM! :) 

Either way you'll be happy.
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October 4, 2009 2:47:48 PM

intel is better clock for clock, and the e5200 is amazing at overclocking
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October 4, 2009 3:40:03 PM

mikekazik1 said:
I'm going to have to build up a new desktop. It will be used for:

Surfing the Internet
Video Conversations via Skype
Watching YouTube videos
Sending Emails

I know that it doesn't require a lot of processing power. What type of CPU would you recommend? I would like something with at least 2 cores. What are your suggestions? Would it be better if I installed Windows XP or Windows 7 on the desktop?


A Pentium 4 or pentium D will excel for those needs, dont get i5 or i7, its overkill for your needs. There is no need for one of those CPU's in this system. I personally recommend getting a good deal on a desktop at dell.com<they have really good deals for cheap PC's.
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October 5, 2009 4:38:00 AM

its hard to find a new p4 now, i think either am2 or 775 are the ones he should be looking at
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October 5, 2009 2:11:40 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
A Pentium 4 or pentium D will excel for those needs, dont get i5 or i7, its overkill for your needs. There is no need for one of those CPU's in this system. I personally recommend getting a good deal on a desktop at dell.com<they have really good deals for cheap PC's.


Or he could go onto Ebay and pick up a used Pentium 4/D PC for around hundred bucks. I picked up a Pentium D 820 PC for 80 bucks + postage. It came with the useall 1GB DDR2 and a basic PCI-e card. All upgradable for cheap. handles Windows 7/Vista/XP flaslessly.
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October 5, 2009 2:50:04 PM

mikekazik1 said:
I'm going to have to build up a new desktop. It will be used for:

Surfing the Internet
Video Conversations via Skype
Watching YouTube videos
Sending Emails

I know that it doesn't require a lot of processing power. What type of CPU would you recommend? I would like something with at least 2 cores. What are your suggestions? Would it be better if I installed Windows XP or Windows 7 on the desktop?


Gigabyte 785g, one of the best onboard video units available: 89.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Athlon II 240 x2, 2.8ghz dual core: 62.99 free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4gb DDR2 800 OCZ memory: 62.99 free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This would be all the system you would need, and would keep you doing what you are doing for quite some time. XP should be able to do everything you need it to, but Windows 7 is looking to be a damn good OS, and may finally take XP out to the shed, heh. Your choice really.
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