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$1300 gaming pc (1st build)

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I want to finally build my first PC, but have some questions. This is what I have, I need to know if everything is compatible and maybe you guys have other suggestions.

 

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: End of July, maybe sooner. BUDGET RANGE: $1300

 

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, surfing the Internet, watching movies

 

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, OS (Win 7RC), Mouse

 

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com

 

PARTS PREFERENCES: Intel CPU

 

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe, not sure.

 

CROSSFIRE: I do plan to down the road

 

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1080p?

 

Case: I am going to get this case for sure.
Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

 

DVD: I would really like to do this, but don't know where to get the slimeline drives and if it would be a good idea.
Combo Kit for Dual Slimline CD/DVD - Black Bezel

 

If not that, then I'll probably go with this.
SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model SH-S223Q - OEM

 

Mobo:
ASUS P6T SE LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

 

GPU: Will probably get a second one down the road
SAPPHIRE 100259-1GL Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail

 

PSU:
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail

 

CPU:
Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail

 

RAM:
OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G1600LV6GK - Retail

 

HD: good choice?
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

 

Monitor: open for suggestions
ASUS VK246H Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 DC 1000:1 (ASCR 20000:1 ) Built in Speakers w/ 1.3m Pixel Webcam - Retail

 

Cooler: maybe this one? i know i have to buy a separate bracket
XIGMATEK HDT-S1283 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail

 

paste:
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

 

Grand Total: $1,479.43 (with some current combos. WAY overbudget)

 

My newegg wish list.


Message edited by d_mon1 on 06-26-2009 at 06:40:00 PM
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Try formatting it as shown here
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] ild-advice

And stick with regular sized drives because the cheapest slim drive is more expensive than the most expensive regular sized one and wont perform as well.

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Yeah, I accidentally clicked submit instead of preview. XP. I'm fixing it.


Message edited by d_mon1 on 06-24-2009 at 07:21:36 PM
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Thats a lot of power for that build, and will accept the 2nd 4870 n/p.

Just fyi, the 1tb version of the drive is on sale for 99...just something to consider.

That case makes cable management pretty easy. It 'll look nice and clean if you put some time into the build

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Alright now that you dont have the antec 900 as your PSU, now i can start asking some real questions. First what resolution is your monitor? Second, are you planning to overclock? Third you are aware that 775 is EOL now and wont have any future upgrades correct?

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hunter315 wrote :

Alright now that you dont have the antec 900 as your PSU, now i can start asking some real questions. First what resolution is your monitor? Second, are you planning to overclock? Third you are aware that 775 is EOL now and wont have any future upgrades correct?


Finally I'm done editing. I got so mad when I clicked on the wrong damn thing.

 

Now, to answer your questions. First, I don't have a monitor, I want a 22 or 24 inch one. second, I might overclock but don't want to if I don't need to. I want to play Call of duty, and if this PC can handle it fine w/o overclocking, then I won't. third, I don't know what you're talking about XP, I'm new, that's why I'm asking you pros. hehe


Message edited by d_mon1 on 06-24-2009 at 08:12:27 PM
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EOL stands for END-OF-LIFE (caps for ominous-ness). It refers to the line ending. Thus, if you buy a 775 chipset, you can see all the processors available to you. Any upgrade will involve a new mobo, cpu, (and likely) ram.

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techwizard08 wrote :

EOL stands for END-OF-LIFE (caps for ominous-ness). It refers to the line ending. Thus, if you buy a 775 chipset, you can see all the processors available to you. Any upgrade will involve a new mobo, cpu, (and likely) ram.


Well it's a good thing I asked then, which mobo do you recommend?

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Well if you want something upgradable in the future your options are an AMD Phenom II processor and AM3 board, or an intel i7 920 and an LGA 1366 board however i7's are more expensive but you have the budget for one if you want one.

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I do want to stick to Intel, I am planing to keep this build for some time. But if you guys think I should go with i7, and it stays within my budget, then maybe I will. But again, I need you guys' help.

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should I wait till the i5 comes out?

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Message edited by d_mon1 on 06-24-2009 at 09:42:58 PM
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d_mon1 wrote :

should I wait till the i5 comes out?



hum... The core i7 Should be better (if it's overclocked) compared to an i5, which (supposedly) is more oriented towards "mainstream". But it all depends on what you do (you probably won't see much of a change in gaming). But we can't know for sure.

You will probably have to spend less money thought.

Mc_coy


Message edited by mc_coy on 06-25-2009 at 01:33:00 AM
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The main thing I will be doing in this build would be gaming. And occasional web surfing.

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NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO and finally no...you dont want LGA775 sockets in your system get LGA1366. For that money you can get an excellent LGA1366 i7 920 nehalem, 6GB of tri-channel memory and have enough money for everything else you want. If you get your 775 socket, you wont be able to upgrade later becuase they are fading it out now.

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blackhawk1928 wrote :

NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO and finally no...you dont want LGA775 sockets in your system get LGA1366. For that money you can get an excellent LGA1366 i7 920 nehalem, 6GB of tri-channel memory and have enough money for everything else you want. If you get your 775 socket, you wont be able to upgrade later becuase they are fading it out now.


OK, I updated the list and put the i7 920. But now I have to change the motherboard and memory right?

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Correct, you need an LGA1366 socket type motherboard to support your i7, you need 6GB of triple channel memory meaning 3 sticks of 2GB each to use the full bandwidth and power of your i7. Also your memory has to be at least 1066mhz of speed because of your socket. I recommend getting 1333mhz of 6GB with your system.

-Of course you can use dual channel but your processor will be heavily bottlenecked by your ram and you dont want that.

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any recommendations for the mobo and ram? and anything else? (links)

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Hmm, there are so many good mobo's out there, for manufactures I recommend Asus and Gigabyte, both are really good, for you, an Asus P6t Deluxe should do the job.

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Oh and sorry for double post but for ram, I recommend triple channel by any of the following manufactures:
-Micron
-OCZ
-Corsair
-Kingston

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NP man, I've updated the list, I might pull the trigger sooner then I thought. I can't wait to build it, I just wish there was somebody I knew from the bay area who can give me a hand. I don't want to mess up anything.

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The asus p6t and the OCZ were an excellent choice, reliable and high quality ram and nice motherboard. Your mobo is also good for over-clocking if you ever want to get into that. Personally Micron is my favorite but they are server/business-grade meaning less faulty, lower latency, and faster but they far more expensive and crucial sells them so for a normal consumer micron is overkill lol, but i just felt like recommending for some reason, but dont get it...

-Also for your PSU, i really dont know how good antec is, but I know that Coolermaster, OCZ, and Corsair make excellent power supplies, they are reliable and just dont break, so you sit calm knowing your system is safe.


Message edited by blackhawk1928 on 06-25-2009 at 11:17:00 PM
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Thanks for all your help black hawk.

This guy's selling the Antec PSU to me for $100, that's why I'm thinking of buying it. But do you guys think 850W is overkill for this build? Keep in mind that I do plan to crossfire down the road though.

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http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817139005

More than sufficient for crossfire and 20 cheaper. Also you are aware that combo kit you have linked to does not include the drives and is simply a mounting bracket right?

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hunter315 wrote :

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Produ [...] 6817139005

 

More than sufficient for crossfire and 20 cheaper. Also you are aware that combo kit you have linked to does not include the drives and is simply a mounting bracket right?


Are you sure 650W is enough? If so, then I will get this instead. And yeah, I am aware of that. It's just something I think might be neat to have on my PC.

 

Oh yeah, and you linked me to the Canadian Newegg, here's the US one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139005


Message edited by d_mon1 on 06-25-2009 at 11:47:16 PM
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If you look under the specs for the 4870 it says that a 600 watt power supply is required and the corsair 650 is stronger than alot of 700 watt power supplies

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So you're saying it's enough for one 4870 right? but how about two?

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Sorry i worded it poorly, here it the bit from the specs page i was refering to, the crossfire power requirements are bolded

PCI Express based PC is required with one X16 lane graphics slot available on the motherboard
500 Watt or greater power supply with two 75W 6-pin PCI Express power connectors recommended (600 Watt and four 6-pin connectors for ATI CrossFireX technology in dual mode)

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Then I'm adding it to the list, list updated. Anything else I should change?

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d_mon1 wrote :

Thanks for all your help black hawk.

This guy's selling the Antec PSU to me for $100, that's why I'm thinking of buying it. But do you guys think 850W is overkill for this build? Keep in mind that I do plan to crossfire down the road though.



-Your very welcome :-)

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Regarding your previous mention of the Digistor Combo Kit for Dual Slimline: I used this product in a recent build and it worked great as a solution to integrate 2 slot load optical drives in a desktop size media player.

We needed a slot-load for this project since it gives the system a more eloquent, stylish look (who wants to deal with tray load drives in a media center, high end customers think they look tacky.) however there are *no* manufacturers who product a slot-load DVD or Desktop Slot load Blu-ray drive (believe it or not). Since there are many manufacturers who product slot load optical drives for notebook - it is easy to obtain a notebook slot load drive.

Here's a really good pic of the product for those who aren't familiar. Basically, this product let's you mount two 12.7mm notebook size drives into a single 5.25" drive bay - you can choose any 12.7mm notebook drive to mount inside. Then just slide it into your drive bay and connect:

http://www.slidirect.com/core/media/media.nl/id.3252/c.220187/.f?h=5ab0c674827ed75a3631

(*note: this company also offers a single bezel solution which allows you to mount one notebook size drive in your desktop PC or server rack, since we were working with a media center - we needed something with a little bit more custom feel.)

Here's a picture of the drives and chassis installed in a system, looked great and I couldn't find another solution quite like it:

http://i41.tinypic.com/2e249ao.jpg

This item is from SLI, they specialize in Optical Storage Solutions (www.slidirect.com - they sell the notebook size drives for this too).


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mbobrowski wrote :

Regarding your previous mention of the Digistor Combo Kit for Dual Slimline: I used this product in a recent build and it worked great as a solution to integrate 2 slot load optical drives in a desktop size media player.


Nice! I'm definitely going to get this now. It just looks so clean. But which one of these should I get? Not the blue ray ones, they're WAY too expensive.

 


Message edited by d_mon1 on 06-26-2009 at 10:33:09 PM
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Yes, the slim Blu-ray drives are a bit expensive right now (in comparison to the desktop size) since the technology is so new.

If you are trying to balance functionality with price, I'd recommend a slot load Blu-ray combo drive (like this) - with this drive you can read/write CD and DVD, additionally you can also playback (but not write) Blu-ray. I'd recommend model UJ-135 from Panasonic - pricing is at $199 each at SLI

Click here to view the product link on SLI's homepage. For $199, it's a pretty great buy and it allows you to playback Blu-ray - highly recommended :) I used this model drive to upgrade my MacBook Pro 17" to allow me to playback Blu-ray.

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Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. Now I'm really going to be over budget......

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