On a similar subject, I've just bought a Radeon HD 4770, which requires a 450W PSU, which I thought I had but turns out that it's only 400w (and not a very good one either).
The computer will POST, make it to the Windows XP screen then cuts out (everything is still powered but won't make it to the Welcome screen) - am I safe to assume that I just require a new 450+W PSU?
Only reason I suggest going into safe mode was to see if it was a resolution issue with the monitor. So once it gets past the Windows XP loading, the screen goes blank but everything keeps running?
Message edited by fpoama on 06-26-2009 at 07:14:41 PM
When I switched to Windows 7 it did the same thing. Would show windows loading and then the screen would go blank and it was because of the monitor resolution. Although that was with an on-board graphics. If the PSU was the issue, I would assume that it would shut its self off if it wasn't able to supply enough power.
Hmm your monitor turns off...... O.o
I would just suggest going into safe mode because it will run at a low resolution so you will figure out if that is the problem.
Message edited by fpoama on 06-26-2009 at 07:20:40 PM
Well with Windows 7 I entered into Low resolution mode, which was like 400 x 800 or something, and it worked. So then I gradually increased the resolution, and when I put it at 1028 x 768, I saw that it changed the Refresh rate to 59 Hz when it should have been 60 Hz.
Message edited by fpoama on 06-26-2009 at 07:22:50 PM
Even though one card might draw more at load then another, the order may be reversed at idle. Can get confusing.
Anyway, you shouldn't power any component you value with a cheap PSU, regardless of whether it apparently works or not. Dying components such as your old card can be caused by a bad PSU.
Set resolution to 800x600, restarted in safe mode, worked ok but wouldn't let me change resolution at all and, when restarting in normal mode, still wouldn't get past the Windows screen.
Replaced the PSU as I thought my 400w cheapo pre-installed one could have been the problem. OCZ 600W Stealth (good reviews for the price, mostly a Zalman apparently!) and still exactly the same - gets to the Windows loading screen, then monitor switches off before it gets to the Welcome page.
Tried in another PC and works fine.
The mobo is a Gigabyte GA-73PVM-S2, which switches off the on-board graphics from BIOS, so I can't think that's the problem.
Only odd thing, when I'm running on on-board graphics it can see my Samsung SyncMaster 204BW monitor - when I switch over to the 4770 it only sees Deafult Monitor.
I'm pretty sure the problem is there somewhere along the line, but I've tried reinstalling the monitor driver before installing the GPU drivers and it won't let me - won't recognise the GPU is installed until I put the drivers in and, when I install the drivers, that's when the problems arise.
Ever wish you'd stuck with what you know? (Nvidia never give me these problems )
Gigabyte sell the GA-73PVM-S2 mobo on the basis that the onboard Nvidia GPU switches off when a GPU is installed.
I don't think it does.
They don't give you the option to switch off manually in BIOS - it's supposed to automatically switch off when a new GPU is installed, yet the IRQs are 'shared' - I'm not a computer genius but at the same time I'm not stupid.
I'll be taking the issue up with Gigabyte; but DON'T buy an ATI card if you have this mobo.
Disable the onboard graphics in the Device Manager. (In safe mode) I've never heard of a vid card not being compatible with a mobo. Not saying it couldn't happen, but I've certainly never seen it. Well, not counting someone trying to put an AGP card in a PCI-e slot.
Also, I'd heard there were issues with the initial release of the drivers for the 4770 that came on the cd. DL the latest ones from ATI.
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In fact, I've tried everything I could possibly imagine.
I've put the latest drivers on, I've updated to the latest BIOS, I've even tried, in case there were some dodgy drivers I couldn't find which could be conflicting, formatted my drive and clean-installed.
I've bought a new PSU and tried another graphics card (which worked with no problem at all), I've also tried my card in another PC (again, no probs).
I originally went for the 4850 (but the Pallit 1GB with the GDDR5 mem but it was OOS, even though the dealer said it wasn't) so went for the 4770 - for 80 quid it's a hell of a card).
What can I say, I'm fed up of Intel/Nvidia crushing competition.
This is why you post a full spec list when asking for help. Had I known you had an Nvidia chipset MB we probably would have figured out the problem two weeks earlier.
The issue is not the manufacturer, but a combination of two bad chipsets from Nvidia.
And don't let Gigabyte do that. There is no "Incompatibility List" for GPUs on their website. They need to replace it with a MB that will actually work, like a P43 or P45.
This is why you post a full spec list when asking for help. Had I known you had an Nvidia chipset MB we probably would have figured out the problem two weeks earlier.
Sorry, I assumed when I mentioned the in-built Geforce 7100 it would be pretty obvious.