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Should I get this i7 build or this Q9550 build need help.

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June 29, 2009 2:27:15 PM

Hi I am looking at two builds. The pc is going to be a machine for hosting virtual pcs on.

The first is a Q9550 machine and the second is a i7 920 machine. Both are spec'd from Scans website.

Which one do you think I should go for? Or what parts do you think I should change?

Thanks

Q9550

PSU : 550w Corsair VX Series PSU, ATX, PS/2, 5 year Warranty £65.03

CPU : Intel Core 2 Quad Q9550, Yorkfield Core, S775, 2.83GHz, 1333MHz, 12MB L2 Cache, 8.5x, 95W, Retail £169.96

COOLER : Akasa AK-965 x3 Copper Heatpipe Cooler Intel Core2Quad/Duo with 92mm side blow fan, Intel push pin £13.79

CASE : Antec Three Hundred Black Midi Tower Case w/o PSU £45.97

RAM : 2 X 4GB (2x2GB) Corsair TwinX DDR2 XMS2, PC2-8500 (1066), 240Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 5-5-5-15, EPP £98.07

GPU : 512MB Gigabyte HD 4350, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 800MHz GDDR2, GPU 650MHz, 80 Cores, D-Sub/ DL DVI-I/ HDMI £33.32

MOTHERBOARD : Biostar TPower I45, iP45, S 775, PCI-E 2.0(x16), DDR2 1066/1200(OC)/667/800, SATA II, SATA RAID, ATX £101.76

CD/DVD : LG GH22NS40 22x DVD±R, 16xDVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RWx6 ,12xRAM SATA, Black, OEM £16.43

HDD : 1TB Hitachi 0A38016 Deskstar 7K1000.B, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 16MB Cache £57.37

Total £615.34

i7 920 Build
CASE : Silverstone PS-01B-W "Precision" Mid Tower Case Black with Window Side Panel w/o PSU

COOLER : 650W NorthQ Black Magic Flex Compact Modular PSU 80%+ Eff' 135mm Ultra Silent Fan OEM

CPU : Intel Core i7 920, D0 (SLBEJ), S1366 (B), Nehalem, 2.66GHz, 8MB Cache, 20x Multiplier, 130W, Retail

MOTHERBOARD : Asus P6T Deluxe V2, Intel X58, SLi/Xfire, Sok 1366, PCI-E 2.0, DDR3 1066/1333/1600(OC), SATAII, ATX

HDD : 1TB Samsung HD103UJ Spinpoint F1, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ

RAM : 6GB (3x2GB) Corsair XMS3 DDR3, PC3-12800 (1600), 240 Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 7-7-7-20 1T

Scan Black Floppy Disk +Int Combo All in 1 Card Reader Fits 3.5" Bay USB2

£662.39


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June 29, 2009 2:47:54 PM

When I set up my Server 2008 w/Hyper-V system (see specs below), I found the biggest limitation setting up virtual systems was the amount of RAM I had available. Running Server 2008 and Three virtual machines (Server2k3 x 2 and XP) pretty much used up all 8GB of RAM I have installed.

It really depends on what operations your virtual machines will be performing, but I'm leaning towards the Q9550 build.

Also, your CoreI7 build is missing a power supply, graphics card, and optical drive which will increase the total cost of the build.

-Wolf sends
June 29, 2009 3:16:25 PM

I will be running Server 2008 w Hyper V and three possible VMC's.

Scans i7 Deal yesterday included all of this for a price of £603.74

CASE : Silverstone Precision PS02B Black Mid Tower Case w/o PSU

PSU : 700W Storm LPK19-35 ,120mm Silent Fan, 24pin +4 pin +12V PSU ATX 2.2

CPU Intel Core i7 920, D0 (SLBEJ), S1366 (B), Nehalem, 2.66GHz, 8MB Cache, 20x Multiplier, 130W, Retail

MB : Asus P6T, Intel X58, S1366, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), Triple DDR3 2000(OC),
SATA 3Gb/s, SATA RAID, ATX

HDD : 1.5TB Samsung HD154UI EcoGreen F2 DT, SATA 3Gb/s, 32MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ

RAM : 6GB (3x2GB) Corsair XMS3 DDR3, PC3-12800 (1600MHz), 240 Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24

CD/DVD : Pioneer DVR-217FBK 20x DVD±R, 12x DVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RW x6, SATA, Black, OEM - Latest Model

Scan Black Floppy Disk +Int Combo All in 1 Card Reader Fits 3.5" Bay USB2

£603.74
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June 29, 2009 4:49:15 PM

What's the purpose of the VMCs? Are you going to be running CPU intensive applications? Are the applications memory hogs? Are they just different testing platforms? What's the purpose?

This goes a long way in determining where you need to spend your money; better CPU or more RAM.

-Wolf sends
June 29, 2009 8:59:26 PM

No wolf.

Its just for testing purposes.

I work as a sys admin and I want to build a home pc to test out some virtual pcs.

Not all of them will be running at the same time.

And there wont be a great deal of workload on them.

Its not going to be a production machine.

Thanks
June 29, 2009 9:08:13 PM

midi25 said:
No wolf.

Its just for testing purposes.

I work as a sys admin and I want to build a home pc to test out some virtual pcs.

Not all of them will be running at the same time.

And there wont be a great deal of workload on them.

Its not going to be a production machine.

Thanks


I happen to do the same thing and my system runs wmware and multiple machines just fine. even vista and win 7 guests. Either one will work great in your case. Get at least 8 gig so as to leave enough ram for your hosts and guests if you want to use vista on either, 8 gigs made a notable difference in running a guest because it could have 4 gigs for itself and run almost native speed. :pt1cable: 
June 29, 2009 9:58:18 PM

I will speak to Scan and see if they can do this deal for the same price as advertised on thier site the other day. At least this way I can up the ram to 12gb if needed.

Scans i7 Deal yesterday included all of this for a price of £603.74

CASE : Silverstone Precision PS02B Black Mid Tower Case w/o PSU

PSU : 700W Storm LPK19-35 ,120mm Silent Fan, 24pin +4 pin +12V PSU ATX 2.2

CPU Intel Core i7 920, D0 (SLBEJ), S1366 (B), Nehalem, 2.66GHz, 8MB Cache, 20x Multiplier, 130W, Retail

MB : Asus P6T, Intel X58, S1366, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), Triple DDR3 2000(OC),
SATA 3Gb/s, SATA RAID, ATX

HDD : 1.5TB Samsung HD154UI EcoGreen F2 DT, SATA 3Gb/s, 32MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ

RAM : 6GB (3x2GB) Corsair XMS3 DDR3, PC3-12800 (1600MHz), 240 Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24

CD/DVD : Pioneer DVR-217FBK 20x DVD±R, 12x DVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RW x6, SATA, Black, OEM - Latest Model

Scan Black Floppy Disk +Int Combo All in 1 Card Reader Fits 3.5" Bay USB2



June 29, 2009 10:17:46 PM

midi25 said:
No wolf.

Its just for testing purposes.

I work as a sys admin and I want to build a home pc to test out some virtual pcs.

Not all of them will be running at the same time.

And there wont be a great deal of workload on them.

Its not going to be a production machine.

Thanks



That's what I was going for. :sol: 

At this point, I'd say it doesn't really matter which build you get. Get whichever you have the budget for. My system is a dual-boot setup (Win2k8 / XP-64). The Win2k8 server is running two Win2k3 VMs (SQL and IIS) and an XP client VM. It's running without a hiccup. The processor I'm running is a step or two below the Q9550. 8 Gig of RAM lets me allocate 2GB to each VM (keeping 2GB available for the host), which is more than enough for what I'm doing (small development platform).

-Wolf sends
June 30, 2009 3:53:17 PM

Wolf...check your PM plz :) 
June 30, 2009 8:34:38 PM

Wolfshadw said:
That's what I was going for. :sol: 

At this point, I'd say it doesn't really matter which build you get. Get whichever you have the budget for. My system is a dual-boot setup (Win2k8 / XP-64). The Win2k8 server is running two Win2k3 VMs (SQL and IIS) and an XP client VM. It's running without a hiccup. The processor I'm running is a step or two below the Q9550. 8 Gig of RAM lets me allocate 2GB to each VM (keeping 2GB available for the host), which is more than enough for what I'm doing (small development platform).

-Wolf sends


Thanks Wolf.

I,ll go for the deal thats make the cheapest sense.

I will be running W2K8 and Exchange x64 on the host and VMCs so will need about 8-12gb min.

Thanks
July 2, 2009 1:07:13 PM

royalcrown said:
I happen to do the same thing and my system runs wmware and multiple machines just fine. even vista and win 7 guests. Either one will work great in your case. Get at least 8 gig so as to leave enough ram for your hosts and guests if you want to use vista on either, 8 gigs made a notable difference in running a guest because it could have 4 gigs for itself and run almost native speed. :pt1cable: 


Hi Royal I just ordered this spec

Just ordered the following spec

550w Corsair VX Series PSU, ATX, PS/2, 5 year Warranty

512MB Gigabyte HD 4350, PCI-E 2.0(x16), 800MHz GDDR2, GPU 650MHz, 80 Cores, D-Sub/ DL DVI-I/ HDMI

Intel i7 920, S 1366(B), Nehalem, 2.66GHz, QPI 4.8GT/s, Cache 8MB, 20x Ratio, 130W, Retail, (SLBEJ)

Asus P6T SE, Intel X58, Sok 1366, PCI-E 2.0 (x16), DDR3 2000/1866/1800, SATA 3Gb/s, SATA RAID, ATX

Antec Three Hundred Black Midi Tower Case w/o PSU

LG GH22NS40 22x DVD±R, 16xDVD±DL, DVD+RW x8/-RWx6 ,12xRAM SATA, Black, OEM

1TB Samsung HD103UJ Spinpoint F1, SATA 3Gb/s, 7200rpm, 32MB Cache, 8.9 ms, NCQ

6GB (3x2GB) Corsair XMS3 DDR3, PC3-12800 (1600MHz), 240 Pin, Non-ECC Unbuffered, CAS 9-9-9-24

Total £665.40

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