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Hello David,
I only replied to last thread in the message, I was in no way meaning to
imply that you were not correct.
Toby was the person asking the questions which is why the response was
directed back at him.
Thanks,
Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights
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>From: "David Candy" <david@mvps.org>
>References: <#OlIXV0YEHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
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>Subject: Re: Defect in Windows File Protection?
>Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 12:52:57 +1000
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>You replied to me saying Toby is correct implying I'm not. But I've said
the same as toby.
>--
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>'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
>http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/29/1088392635123.html
>""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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>> Hello David,
>> Wow what did I do to provoke this response.
>> I did read the entire thread a couple of times.
>> I confirmed Tony's post and stated that it would be addressed in Service
>> Pack 2.
>> So yes the file should have been protected in both places but it wasn't.
>> The fact that it is being addressed in service pack 2 answers Tony's
>> question:
>> > Does anyone know whether thisis a known defect in WFP on Windows XP,
or
>> was it intentional that
>> > notepad.exe should not be protected in the system32 directory?
>> Thanks,
>> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>>
>> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no
rights
>> --------------------
>> >From: "David Candy" <david@mvps.org>
>> >References: <#OlIXV0YEHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
>> <OnRrVI2YEHA.2500@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
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>> >Subject: Re: Defect in Windows File Protection?
>> >Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 04:03:07 +1000
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>> >
>> >Correct about what dickhead? Should try reading.
>> > My program that I've posted here before asks windows what is it
>> protecting. I'm just confirming Windows is protected and system32 isn't.
>> The poster suspects this by experimentally testing it. I'm just giving
an
>> official answer from Windows itself.
>> >So perhaps you shouldn't post here in future as you are too stupid.
>> >--
>> >----------------------------------------------------------
>> >'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
>> >http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/29/1088392635123.html
>> >""Darrell Gorter[MSFT]"" <Darrellg@online.microsoft.com> wrote in
message
>> news:khKlOPRZEHA.600@cpmsftngxa06.phx.gbl...
>> >> Hello,
>> >> Tony is correct. Notepad is missing from the list of protected files
>> under
>> >> system32.
>> >> If a file is protected it is protected at it's installed location,
since
>> >> notepad is installed to two locations it should be protected at both
>> >> locations, currently it is only protected at the \windows folder not
the
>> >> \windows\system32 folder.
>> >> This will be addressed in service pack two for Windows XP.
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Darrell Gorter[MSFT]
>> >>
>> >> This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no >
rights
>> >> --------------------
>> >> >From: "David Candy" <david@mvps.org>
>> >> >References: <#OlIXV0YEHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
>> >> <OnRrVI2YEHA.2500@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl>
>> >> <OKYytx5YEHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl>
>> >> <O#WU835YEHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl>
>> >> <u9wMO6AZEHA.4092@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl>
>> >> >Subject: Re: Defect in Windows File Protection?
>> >> >Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2004 21:01:43 +1000
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>> >> microsoft.public.windowsxp.configuration_manage:25897
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>> >> >
>> >> >Here's the program. You'll need to use a newsreader to see it.
>> >> >Public Const MAX_PATH = 260
>> >> >Type PROTECTED_FILE_DATA
>> >> > FileName((MAX_PATH - 1) * 2) As Byte
>> >> > FileNumber As Long
>> >> >End Type
>> >> >Declare Function SfcGetNextProtectedFile Lib "sfc" (ByVal RpcHandle
As
>> >> Long, ProtFileData As PROTECTED_FILE_DATA) As Long
>> >> >Public Declare Function GetLastError Lib "kernel32" () As Long
>> >> >Sub Main()
>> >> >Dim udtProtectedFileData As PROTECTED_FILE_DATA
>> >> >udtProtectedFileData.FileNumber = 0
>> >> >Count = 1
>> >> >With Form1.List1
>> >> > Do Until SfcGetNextProtectedFile(0, udtProtectedFileData) = 0
>> >> > .AddItem udtProtectedFileData.FileName
>> >> > Count = Count + 1
>> >> > Loop
>> >> > n = Err.LastD1llError()
>> >> > If n = 18 Then
>> >> > .AddItem "All files listed without error"
>> >> > Else
>> >> > .AddItem "Error Code is " & n
>> >> > End If
>> >> > .AddItem Count & " Total Files"
>> >> >End With
>> >> >End Sub
>> >> >--
>> >> >----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
>> >> >http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/29/1088392635123.html
>> >> >"Tony" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> news:u9wMO6AZEHA.4092@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> Are you implying that all files in system32 are not protected, or
only
>> >> >> notepad.exe in system32 is not protected? Because, on my Windows
XP
>> >> system,
>> >> >> some files in system32 are certainly protected - actres.dll, for >
example.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "David Candy" <david@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:O%23WU835YEHA.3844@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> My program that I've posted here before asks windows what is it
>> >> protecting.
>> >> >> I'm just confirming Windows is protected and system32 isn't. The >
poster
>> >> >> suspects this by experimentally testing it. I'm just giving an
>> official
>> >> >> answer from Windows itself.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> --
>> >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> 'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
>> >> >>
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/29/1088392635123.html
>> >> >>
>> >> >> "NoNoBadDog!" <mysocks_bjsledge_AT_pixi.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> news:OKYytx5YEHA.2520@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > ??????
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > David...just what was is you *meant* to say...'cause your post
makes
>> >> >> > absolutely no sense!!!
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Bobby
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "David Candy" <david@mvps.org> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:OnRrVI2YEHA.2500@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > Windows is the one file protection protects.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > --
>> >> >> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >> >> > 'Not happy John! Defending our democracy',
>> >> >> >
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/06/29/1088392635123.html
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Tony" <anonymous@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> >> >> > news:%23OlIXV0YEHA.996@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> >> >> > > I have evidence to suggest that the file notepad.exe is not
>> >> protected by
>> >> >> > > Windows File Protection (WFP) in the system32 directory on
>> Windows
>> >> XP.
>> >> >> If
>> >> >> > > you move notepad.exe out of the system32 directory into a
>> temporary
>> >> >> > > directory, WFP does not restore it from dllcache. It is
>> protected in
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > > WINDOWS directory, however. On Windows 2000, notepad.exe is >
>> protected
>> >> >> in
>> >> >> > > both the system32 and the WINNT directories. Does anyone know
>> >> whether
>> >> >> > > this
>> >> >> > > is a known defect in WFP on Windows XP, or was it intentional
that
>> >> >> > > notepad.exe should not be protected in the system32 directory?
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> > >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
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