I'm building a new system based on the Radeon HD 4670 Graphics card because the reviews I've read have suggested that this card will mostly handle 1280x1024 resolutions (and I already got a nice deal for it on ebay ). I'm not interested in maxing out this card, but my question is, Which is the mimimum AMD processor (cheapest) that will mostly not bottleneck this graphics card. I'm thinking maybe a 4850e OC'ed to 2.8 or maybe kuma. What do you guys think? thanks in advance for your help.
If you have a HSF, the OEM 7550 is $45. If you can afford another $20 and don't have a HSF, then grab the 7750 retail. Since the older brisbanes aren't going to save you any, stick with the newe chipsets. Don't forget to see if a combo works for you too on those chips.
Sounds like the Kuma won't be a major bottleneck, but probably ought to avoid the 65nm athlon x2 series . Will the PHII X2 250 provide a substantial benefit over the overclocked kuma. If not I'm thinking Kuma 7550 (for $45) plus the XIGMATEK HDT-S963 92mm for another $25. I'm going to use the ECS A780GM-A Ultra Black Series Motherboard, cuz its cheap and a decent oc'er.
True Rambo, the new athlon II x2 will definitely run cooler and over clock better, but I'm not sure it can be verified that it will die substantially sooner. According to the link posted by outlander, a 2.8Ghz kuma is right behind the athlon II x2 250 both of which are driving a GTX280 with out falling way behind a Ph II x4 940 . Can you post a link to suggest a 3.0Ghz Kuma will severely bottleneck the hd 4670, which in turn would suggest that an OC'ed athlon II x2 250 would be much better? If not, remember, all I'm trying to avoid is a substantial bottleneck (as in, >10-15%) on the 4670, and I'm only gaming at 1280x1024, all while remaining as cheap as possible. Thanks for the input bro and for anymore that is to follow. Cheers!
im not saying that the kuma will cause any substantial bottleneck, all im saying is that the athlon II is the better, more efficient buy.
but yes, a 65nm part runs much hotter, uses more energy, and its own heat will kill it faster than a 45nm athlon II(which doesnt even have to be OCed since stock clock is 3ghz which also means that it will take advantage of AMD's Cool n' Quiet technology)
sure, the kuma can make it to 3ghz, but really, its your money to spend. A wise invester would go for the newer architecture, even if its a little more $$$
if thats the way he wants to spend his money, thats fine but looking at the future, he may want a little more horsepower from his CPU that his 7750 aint gonna give. Athlon II can provide that need incase he decides to upgrade his graphics card.
building cheap is a bad thing to do. i learned that the hard way when i thought id never utilize more than one graphics card and bought a mobo with only one pci express lane. i had to upgrade my whole damn system because i was thinking too small.
You make some good points Rambo. I also kind of forgot that cool 'n quiet was not very great until PhII (and subsequent processors). I suppose my biggest reservation at this point is the fact that this is only going to be my machine for six to eight months, at which point I plan on building a decent gaming rig (~1200-1300) with a new HD monitor and the works (I'm donating plasma to get the money ). Right now I'm just trying to get past a sempron le-1200 (see my sig) and hd-3450. But this rig is also something I plan on tweaking quite a bit (homemade water cooling set-up possibly), so that's why I'm so interested in building cheap. Rambo, Thanks for your time and helping me too remember my perspective. Thanks for your help too outlander and skora.