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October 4, 2009 2:02:37 AM

:wahoo:  Upgrading form older 754 athlon64-3700+, 2 g corsair xms ram,500w psu,DFI Lan Party nf3-250 board.old stuff but works. Does not multi task well. There is a Radeon 1600 vid card. WD drives 1.5;;;

2 questions.
firstly,would the AMD dual core black 550 and good ram,new board be a noticeably welcomed improvement in speed and
working with it? The Intel 8400 seems to still beat it.

Secondly, I may assume the slightly bigger and more expensive quad core AMD's would also belittle this old system?
October 4, 2009 2:24:18 AM

oldfastPC said:
:wahoo:  Upgrading form older 754 athlon64-3700+, 2 g corsair xms ram,500w psu,DFI Lan Party nf3-250 board.old stuff but works. Does not multi task well. There is a Radeon 1600 vid card. WD drives 1.5;;;


Yeah, that's a bit dated. Some of those old AMD units work forever if they made it past the first couple years. I have an Athlon XP 3200+ on an NForce 2 Ultra 400 board that runs absolutely flawlessly in my HTPC.

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2 questions.
firstly,would the AMD dual core black 550 and good ram,new board be a noticeably welcomed improvement in speed and
working with it? The Intel 8400 seems to still beat it.


Yes, the Phenom II 550BE will be significantly faster than the 3700+ no matter what you're doing. The E8400 is a little faster in certain programs, but the E8400 also costs as much as Phenom II X4s, which would pound the E8400 in many things.

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Secondly, I may assume the slightly bigger and more expensive quad core AMD's would also belittle this old system?


Absolutely. Your 3700+ is a 2.2 GHz K8 with a single channel of memory. The Phenom IIs are going to be something like 25-30% faster clock-for-clock than your 3700+. Plus, the faster Phenom IIs are clocked about 50% higher than your 3700+. You're going to see a big improvement in single-threaded tasks due to that, plus you have one, two, or three more cores than your current CPU has, which will make a tremendous difference in multitasking ability.
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October 4, 2009 3:00:23 AM

Well said, MU_Engineer. If you need recommendations for a build, feel free to ask.
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October 4, 2009 1:41:24 PM

Thanks all! Wonderful forum,here.

I will use a new build for graphics,music with mixing,and typical web stuff and videos.
Also,I write and will need to work swiftly with documents...no gaming,really,but I admire skills with that. Accordingly,my ancient Radeon 9800pro vid card used to render terrific still photographs...would a video card in the 100-125 dollar range
get me where I need to be? And the next question,you guessed it,does it matter
if ATI -based or Nvidia?
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October 4, 2009 6:41:34 PM

I agree with obsidian86, that card will suit you well, and you'll notice a big improvement over your old card.
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October 5, 2009 12:22:15 AM

This one recommended to me has all three: vga,dig,and hdmi.

The specs of the memory controlling,speed of the processors above are way beyond what I have now.
Furthermore,the idea of even better video and plain graphic is rather cool.
If not the Black 550,Ill probably get a full-n 3.4 quad,unless the price of that e8400 shows up here in USA cheaper than nearly 200 bucks.

My initial posting was well received and I thank you all. I am not used to Intel other other folks' P4 rigs. The hyper-threading capabilities that go along with Intel should be matched adequately by these AMD models. My rig is dicey on multi-tasks,humorously so. The best idea leaving room for improvement,would be a good board and a hot dual core,great card and boat-load of RAM. I may then in the future upgrade only the processor.hopefully! (?)

The better-end ASUS boards? haven't found much mention of DFI....
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October 5, 2009 9:59:29 PM

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner LightScribe Support - OEM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS M4A77TD Pro AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Athlon II X4 620 Propus 2.6GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

case+psu http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

4670 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

best you could do for $570

but maybe add this win 7 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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October 6, 2009 2:25:40 AM

That's a good build from obsidian86, and it will allow you to upgrade your cpu later on if you so choose.
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