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October 4, 2009 4:47:04 PM

I have a Q6600 processor (unOC'd) and it runs pretty hot. About 44-47 on idle and up to 60 at load. I want to overclock it as it might be bottlenecking by 4890 (20 fps in WoW, 20 fps in cs:source). Will I be able to overclock it to like 3.0 ghz without it melting?

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October 4, 2009 4:53:10 PM

If you upgrade the cooler then yes.
October 4, 2009 4:53:24 PM

Are you using the stock cooler?
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October 4, 2009 4:56:20 PM

Stock or not, it's already going up to 60.
October 4, 2009 4:59:00 PM

i dont think it's whats messing up cs:source... i average in the 80's with a 4870 and an Athlon X2 4800+
October 4, 2009 5:01:46 PM

I mean if it's already running at60 and he wants to OC then it will get too hot.

uncfan could be right. kennh, can you post your other components please (RAM etc.)
October 4, 2009 5:19:59 PM

OS Name Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Premium 32 bit
System Manufacturer HP-Pavilion
System Model KC880AA-A2L m9150f
Total Physical Memory 3,071.21 MB
Intel Core 2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz, 2400 MHz, 1Core(s)
HDD 2x 335gb ( dont know name)

P.s. i bought this comp from future shop and upgraded the card when my 8500gt broke. Yes I am running the stock cooler.

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October 4, 2009 5:37:05 PM

You will need a better cooler. I suspect that most of the popular ones will not fit in the case though.
October 4, 2009 5:39:20 PM

k thanks for the help and quick replies guys
October 4, 2009 5:44:24 PM

Cant see it as the bottleneck either,
I've got a Q6600 un oc'd with 8gb ddr800 and a 8800gtx. Happily runs any game i throw at it at max settings on a 22" widescreen monitor (1680x1050).
However the temp does seem high. Had mine clock'd to 3.6Ghz on a thermaltake heatsink + 120mm fan and never went over 58c full load. ran it like that for about a year.
October 4, 2009 6:04:48 PM

Just adding my voice to the cpu not being the bottleneck. I've got a Q6600 with a 4870, and I'm getting way more FPS than that. A quick google suggest they might have skimped a little on the mobo, but I don't think it's anything catastrophic there. Did you get decent performance out of the 8500 before it died? If so, I would:

1) Make sure you've uninstalled everything correctly for the old nVidia card.
2) Make sure the catalyst drivers for the new card are up to date.
3) Check that your motherboard can support the card, and does not need a BIOS update.

I'd get the issues with your current rig sorted before overclocking, as you should be getting better performance than that. If you want to overclock, get your hands on an aftermarket cooler. There are quite a few out there that will fit the bill. I've got the Arctic 7 Freezer Pro, which is cheap, and keeps my Q6600 happy at 3.2. Let us know how you get on.
October 4, 2009 6:47:51 PM

try running 3dmark06 and see what score you get with existing set up. 20 fps with wow sounds very wrong.
October 4, 2009 6:49:50 PM

HP are notorious for cheap motherboards. I believe DeeTee is right about this being the problem.

OCing won't be a problem, but like jsc said, it might be hard to find a fan to fit the case.
October 4, 2009 8:45:41 PM

So I should just replace the heatsink that came with my computer right?

P.S. I think this might be related to the problem


I have a quad core CPU but it only detects 1 core. The system gets to 100% usage when I run games(even CS1.6) and I think this might be related to the problem. Im guessing maybe if I solve this problem first, I wont need to replace the heatsink.

I am downloading 3dmark06 right now
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October 4, 2009 8:58:13 PM

call hp?
October 4, 2009 9:04:18 PM

Yeah, that's a problem. As rand_79 says, if you haven't changed that much, call HP. I suspect your BIOS is too old for the CPU, but they really ought not to have sold you a pc in that state.
October 4, 2009 9:05:51 PM

you see, my warranty has expired ( never had one ) so If i were to call HP, i would have to pay their ridiculous fee ($40 per call have ur credit card ready ) to get help from them.
October 4, 2009 9:10:55 PM

$40?!? Are you serious? Good lord. In that case, check the page for your board. Somewhere on there, it should say which revision of the BIOS is needed to run the Q6600. If your BIOS is earlier than that, update it. I would, personally, still be tempted to shout at HP for the fact that the system is not entirely "fit for purpose".
October 4, 2009 9:32:10 PM

The BIOS is up to date. I ran 3dmark06 and got around 30 fps on 1280x1024 resolution(my 22" monitor supports 1680x1050). During the CPU test portion, the average fps was like 0-1 fps. I aborted the test after 10 minutes as it only got through 6 seconds of testing during that period. Can anyone offer a solution to getting the 4 cores in my processor to show up on my system again without going through the BIOS because the BIOS does not have anything that will help me with the problem
October 4, 2009 9:54:12 PM

I had a BIOS problem with a HP PC myself. If you go to their website and find your PC you can get the new firmware.
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October 4, 2009 10:12:42 PM

> You will need a better cooler.
> I suspect that most of the popular ones will not fit in the case though.

No. Not necessary, because the stock heatsink and fan will fit and work ...


> Yes I am running the stock cooler.

... as long as he removes Intel's stupid push-pins:

http://www.supremelaw.org/systems/heatsinks/warning.htm


This $4.95 retrofit (+ shipping) has worked perfectly on several
of our "PressHots" -- a remarkably cost-effective solution:

http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/lgbowiscsp.html


And, Gary Stofer, the sales contact at Sidewinder,
is a kind and knowledgeable expert on this subject.


MRFS


p.s. This is reply #576 from me concerning
"overheating Intel CPUs" -- and still counting.
Maybe it's time for a product liability lawsuit
against Intel, because they refuse to fix these
defective push-pins.
October 4, 2009 10:14:05 PM

The motherboard is an IPIBL-LB. You cant do much on the bios, maybe set a password and change boot order and thats about it.
October 4, 2009 10:21:12 PM

For your heat problem i would suggest finding the stable undervolt for your cpu. i undervolted my 955 BE and now my temps are idle: 28C Load: 41C. On stock voltages my temps were idle: 35C and load 50C
October 4, 2009 10:43:37 PM

@kennh re your quad only showing one core.

Go to run in your start menu. Type in "msconfig". Go to the "Boot" tab and change the number of processors to 4. Restart your comp and the load cpu-z to see if you still only have one core showing up.
October 4, 2009 10:47:39 PM

strife_1980 said:
@kennh re your quad only showing one core.

Go to run in your start menu. Type in "msconfig". Go to the "Boot" tab and change the number of processors to 4. Restart your comp and the load cpu-z to see if you still only have one core showing up.


Tried that already, it does not detect 4 cores so I cannot go past 1 processor
October 5, 2009 3:15:51 AM

strife_1980 said:
@kennh re your quad only showing one core.

Go to run in your start menu. Type in "msconfig". Go to the "Boot" tab and change the number of processors to 4. Restart your comp and the load cpu-z to see if you still only have one core showing up.


Through google, I was able to find the solution to getting all 4 cores to show up. It turns out that if you cannot change processors to 4, you click on DetectHAL and it should work. I got all the problems solved now, all I need to do now is wait for a new heatsink(processor is still hot but its alot faster now) which I hope I will be able to get by the end of the week.

Thanks for the help guys


kennh
October 5, 2009 7:38:15 AM

Glad to hear you got all the cores running. I hope your FPS is creeping above 20 now!
October 5, 2009 4:52:03 PM

Just a quick thought, what power supply do you have in this machine?
When I saw "bought an HP, upgraded 9500gt to 4890" that's the first thing that comes to mind. Ussually prebuilt PCs have the minimum PSU needed to power the system, if you up the graphics power requirements that much you might be over stressing the PSU.
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