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October 5, 2009 11:01:41 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE : Not yet probably within 1 week !

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT : Gaming Mostly , music , movies , internet !

PARTS NOT REQUIRED : Keyboard , Mouse , Headset , Subs , DVD !

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS : NONE !

PARTS PREFERENCES :
1- Motherboard : GigaByte Ex-58 EXTREME
2- Processor : Intel Core i7 2.6 920 !
3- VGA : GigaByte GeForce GTS 250 !
4- Rams : 2 GB x 3 Kingston Hyper Rams !
5- Case : GigaByte Case !
6- Power Supply : GigaByte 600v + !

OVERCLOCKING : NO !

SLI OR CROSSFIRE : Yes !

MONITOR RESOLUTION : 1024x768

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS : hi . first of all about the mobo i couldnt find any lower models of the Ex-58 with 3 way SLI or CrossFire and also with the 6 ways for Rams ! so i took the Extreme motherboard for this reason also for the cooling systamatices within that would allow to give a good performance and lower tempture because i cant install a cooling system for now for the processor i will just depend on the fans for now ! also for the monitors im using i use 17 & 19 LCD thats why i took the GTS 250 and in the future i will add more VGA cards ! and got a few questions related to this computer : will it be so fast in gaming ? will i be able to play all kinds of games ? is there is any wrong components ?

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GigaByte Ex-58 EXTREME

Intel Core i7 2.6 920

GTS 250
http://www.nvidia.com/object/product_geforce_gts_250_us...
thank you

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October 5, 2009 11:15:24 PM

im getting the asrock motherboard for my new i7 build,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

its got good reviews and its at a great price and it supports 2-way SLI and crossfire it doesnt support 3, but is 3 really needed?

i wouldnt get a gts 250, if you can wait for all the new hardware (with dx11 and such) then i would get the new cards, either from ati or nividia. what res are your monitors?

good choice for the cpu, maybe a different case, antec 900 is a good one

as for the PSU if you plan on doing 3 way SLI or xfire (even 2 way sli/xfire) you might want at least a 750w psu, from a good brand, like this one:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

whats your budget?
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October 5, 2009 11:17:03 PM

Gamer14 said:

SLI OR CROSSFIRE : Yes !
MONITOR RESOLUTION : 1024x768
What's your budget for this build?
Getting the i7 920 / GigaByte Ex-58 EXTREME is an extreme gaming mis-match for a 1024x768 and even dual GTS 250.

You'd probably be a lot better off squeezing a 22" 1680x1050 monitor into your new build and going with a Core i7 750, P55 MB and a Radeon 5850 video card.
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October 5, 2009 11:20:50 PM

WR2 said:

You'd probably be a lot better off squeezing a 22" 1680x1050 monitor into your new build and going with a Core i7 750, P55 MB and a Radeon 5850 video card.

why not a 23 inch HD monitor 1920 x 1080 ?
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October 5, 2009 11:21:46 PM

I have a suspicion we're working with a limited budget here.
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October 5, 2009 11:25:05 PM

WR2 said:
I have a suspicion we're working with a limited budget here.

hmm perhaps. that was the only thing he left out of his post and its one of the most important things :p 
also, tigerdirect has an 23inch Acer HD monitor 1920 x 1080 for i think $180
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October 5, 2009 11:36:49 PM

my budget is around $1200 $1400 USD ! and about the VGA card i dont like wide screens i almost sit on my 19 LCD ! and theres one more thing guys ! i dont know that much on the computer stuff ! im totally new to what ur saying but i can understand most of the stuff except the equations like this one :
Quote:
Getting the i7 920 / GigaByte Ex-58 EXTREME is an extreme gaming mis-match for a 1024x768 and even dual GTS 250.

You'd probably be a lot better off squeezing a 22" 1680x1050 monitor into your new build and going with a Core i7 750, P55 MB and a Radeon 5850 video card.


way hard for me to understand ! but for now for the components will it fine ? also with the SLI and CrossFire thing ! i got 1 more question :
SLI means u use the same card and the same features and put 3 of it ! or it can be mixed and for the CrossFire means u can put any kind of cards with any features and does nVidia support that king ? CrossFire , can someone explain it to me ?
and for the EXTREME motherboard and the core i7 , is it a good choice for a gamer ? and for the other resolutions i dont like any others i only use 1027 by 768 pixels for a long long long time !
another question concerning the SLI and CrossFire ! if i bought a GTS 250 and in the near future added a new ATI card will that work ? or i must be in 1 side SLI only or CrossFire Only , can someone explain it ? ive went to many websites and couldnt get the whole thing ! ty and i apologize for being so ignorant :(  ! im sorry
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October 5, 2009 11:38:06 PM

There is only a $30~40 average difference. But this is some one having trouble scraping up $30~40 for a decent CPU cooler too.
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October 5, 2009 11:42:15 PM

Or maybe not - not with a $1200 budget.

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October 5, 2009 11:57:39 PM

just tell i might be able to get ! and for the case ive searched for the antec 900 and ive found it available in Egypt just gonna take some time 2 get ! and if there is anything i can add in the future tell me about it i may buy it and install it ! i just need an explanation for the SLI & xFire thing :( 
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October 5, 2009 11:58:47 PM

Gamer14 said:
my budget is around $1200 $1400 USD ! and about the VGA card i dont like wide screens i almost sit on my 19 LCD ! and theres one more thing guys ! i dont know that much on the computer stuff ! im totally new to what ur saying but i can understand most of the stuff except the equations like this one :
Quote:
Getting the i7 920 / GigaByte Ex-58 EXTREME is an extreme gaming mis-match for a 1024x768 and even dual GTS 250.

You'd probably be a lot better off squeezing a 22" 1680x1050 monitor into your new build and going with a Core i7 750, P55 MB and a Radeon 5850 video card.


way hard for me to understand ! but for now for the components will it fine ? also with the SLI and CrossFire thing ! i got 1 more question :
SLI means u use the same card and the same features and put 3 of it ! or it can be mixed and for the CrossFire means u can put any kind of cards with any features and does nVidia support that king ? CrossFire , can someone explain it to me ?
and for the EXTREME motherboard and the core i7 , is it a good choice for a gamer ? and for the other resolutions i dont like any others i only use 1027 by 768 pixels for a long long long time !
another question concerning the SLI and CrossFire ! if i bought a GTS 250 and in the near future added a new ATI card will that work ? or i must be in 1 side SLI only or CrossFire Only , can someone explain it ? ive went to many websites and couldnt get the whole thing ! ty and i apologize for being so ignorant :(  ! im sorry

no, that will not work, you need 2 of the same cards from nvidia or 2 cards from ati that are compatible with each other
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October 6, 2009 12:02:32 AM

Crossfire / SLI FAQs

Here is how some experts decided to spend ~$1250

Wouldn't it be easier to tell us what you have available...or where you're getting your parts from?
No sense in any one suggesting anything you can't get your hands on.
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October 6, 2009 12:04:25 AM

and how to know that they are compatible with each other ?
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October 6, 2009 12:15:42 AM

WR2 said:
Crossfire / SLI FAQs

Here is how some experts decided to spend ~$1250

Wouldn't it be easier to tell us what you have available...or where you're getting your parts from?
No sense in any one suggesting anything you can't get your hands on.

^+1

and to your post gamer: nividia cards must be the same cards to run SLI (unless you have one has a dedicated physix card, example: 2 gtx 275 in 2-way SLI and a 9800 gt has the physix card, better off just using 2 cards without a dedicated physix card IMO.)
some ati cards are compatible with different ATI cards (i read a review and the test setup included 2 different ATI cards but they MUST BE ATI.) but im not sure why you would do that, i would prefer using 2 of the same cards
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October 6, 2009 12:16:54 AM

okay but thats gonna be a very long one :
1-Processors :
INTEL

INTEL CORE I7 920 2.66/8M/4.8GT/s
the rest wont work with the EX mobos !

Cpu Cooler
OCZ Vendetta 2
OCZ Freeze Extreme Thermal Conductivity Compound
ASUS Triton 77
ASUS Silent Knight AL
ASUS Silent Knight II
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VGA Cards : ATI
SAPPHIRE HD 4850X2 2G GDDR3
SAPPHIRE HD 4890 TOXIC 1GB GDDR5
SAPPHIRE HD 4890 1GB GDDR5
SAPPHIRE HD 4870 TOXIC 1GB GDDR5
SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X HD 4870 1GB GDDR5
SAPPHIRE HD 4850 1GB GDDR3 HDMI
SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X HD 4850 512MB GDDR3
SAPPHIRE HD 4770 512MB GDDR5
SAPPHIRE HD 4730 512M GDDR5
SAPPHIRE HD 4670 512MB GDDR4
SAPPHIRE Ultimate HD 4670 512MB GDDR3
GIGABYTE ATI HD 4870X2 2GB DDR5
GIGABYTE ATI HD 4850 512MB DDR3 / ZALMAN COOLER
GIGABYTE ATI HD 4670 512MB DDR3
PowerColor ATI HD 4870 X2 2GB
PowerColor ATI HD 4870 1GB
PowerColor ATI HD 4850 1GB
PowerColor ATI HD 4670 1GB
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nVidia :
XFX GTX 275 896M GDDR3
XFX GTS 250 1G GDDR3
ASUS Geforce GTS250 512 GDDR3
GIGABYTE GTX280 1GB DDR3
GIGABYTE GTS250 1GB DDR3
GTX 285 2GB GDDR3
GTX 275 OC 896MB GDDR3
9800GT 1GB GDDR3
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Rams :
OCZ Reaper HPC Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1800 CL8 (PC3 14400) Triple Channel Kit
OCZ Platinum Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 CL7 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit
OCZ Intel Extreme Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600/1800 CL8/9 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit
OCZ Reaper HPC Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 CL6 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit
Kingston 2GB DDR3 bus 1333MHz
im not posting anything not working with the Core i7
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Hard disk :
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 32M Cache ( unknown price )
Western Digital Caviar Black WD640AALS 640GB 32M Cache
Western Digital Green 1000GB AADS 32M Cache SATAII
Western Digital Green 640GB AACS 16M Cache SATAII
Western Digital Green 500GB AACS 16M Cache SATAII
Western Digital Blue 320GB AAJS 8M Cache SATAII
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Cases :
antec Twelve Hundred
antec Nine Hundred
GIGABYTE SUMO 5115
GIGABYTE SUMO 4192
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Power Supplies :
OCZ GameXStream 700W
OCZ StealthXStream 500W
antec Quattro 850W
antec EarthWatts 650W
Gigabyte Odin Gt 800w
Hec Cougar 1000
Hec Cougar 750
Hec Cougar 700
Hec 600w
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Cooler Master :
Real Power Pro 850W
Real Power Pro 1250W
Real Power Pro 650W
Real Power Pro 500W
Real Power Pro 390W
Real Power Pro 350W
PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750W
OCZ GameXStream 850W
OCZ StealthXStream 600W
OCZ StealthXStream 500W
:-S
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October 6, 2009 12:22:05 AM

None of those CPU coolers work with socket 1366 Core i7motherboards.
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October 6, 2009 12:26:34 AM

can we drop the CPU coolers for now until they get a new one working with it ? and move on ? ive read about the SLI and CrossFire tech and i understand it now but this means i need to get a real good VGA card ? which one do you think would work very good with my new computer but not very expensive lets say for instance the GTX 270 or 280 ? u give me what u think i follow
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October 6, 2009 12:30:21 AM

Gamer14 said:
okay but thats gonna be a very long one :
1-Processors :
INTEL

INTEL CORE I7 920 2.66/8M/4.8GT/s
the rest wont work with the EX mobos !

Cpu Cooler
OCZ Vendetta 2
OCZ Freeze Extreme Thermal Conductivity Compound
ASUS Triton 77
ASUS Silent Knight AL
ASUS Silent Knight II
------
VGA Cards : ATI
SAPPHIRE HD 4850X2 2G GDDR3
SAPPHIRE HD 4890 TOXIC 1GB GDDR5
SAPPHIRE HD 4890 1GB GDDR5
SAPPHIRE HD 4870 TOXIC 1GB GDDR5
SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X HD 4870 1GB GDDR5
SAPPHIRE HD 4850 1GB GDDR3 HDMI
SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X HD 4850 512MB GDDR3
SAPPHIRE HD 4770 512MB GDDR5
SAPPHIRE HD 4730 512M GDDR5
SAPPHIRE HD 4670 512MB GDDR4
SAPPHIRE Ultimate HD 4670 512MB GDDR3
GIGABYTE ATI HD 4870X2 2GB DDR5
GIGABYTE ATI HD 4850 512MB DDR3 / ZALMAN COOLER
GIGABYTE ATI HD 4670 512MB DDR3
PowerColor ATI HD 4870 X2 2GB
PowerColor ATI HD 4870 1GB
PowerColor ATI HD 4850 1GB
PowerColor ATI HD 4670 1GB
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nVidia :
XFX GTX 275 896M GDDR3
XFX GTS 250 1G GDDR3
ASUS Geforce GTS250 512 GDDR3
GIGABYTE GTX280 1GB DDR3
GIGABYTE GTS250 1GB DDR3
GTX 285 2GB GDDR3
GTX 275 OC 896MB GDDR3
9800GT 1GB GDDR3
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Rams :
OCZ Reaper HPC Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1800 CL8 (PC3 14400) Triple Channel Kit
OCZ Platinum Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 CL7 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit
OCZ Intel Extreme Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600/1800 CL8/9 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit
OCZ Reaper HPC Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3 1333 CL6 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit
Kingston 2GB DDR3 bus 1333MHz
im not posting anything not working with the Core i7
-------
Hard disk :
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 32M Cache ( unknown price )
Western Digital Caviar Black WD640AALS 640GB 32M Cache
Western Digital Green 1000GB AADS 32M Cache SATAII
Western Digital Green 640GB AACS 16M Cache SATAII
Western Digital Green 500GB AACS 16M Cache SATAII
Western Digital Blue 320GB AAJS 8M Cache SATAII
---------
Cases :
antec Twelve Hundred
antec Nine Hundred
GIGABYTE SUMO 5115
GIGABYTE SUMO 4192
-------
Power Supplies :
OCZ GameXStream 700W
OCZ StealthXStream 500W
antec Quattro 850W
antec EarthWatts 650W
Gigabyte Odin Gt 800w
Hec Cougar 1000
Hec Cougar 750
Hec Cougar 700
Hec 600w
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Cooler Master :
Real Power Pro 850W
Real Power Pro 1250W
Real Power Pro 650W
Real Power Pro 500W
Real Power Pro 390W
Real Power Pro 350W
PC Power and Cooling Silencer 750W
OCZ GameXStream 850W
OCZ StealthXStream 600W
OCZ StealthXStream 500W
:-S

thats long one,

cpu cooler: you said you werent overclocking so the stock intel cooler will be just fun so ive heard but if you want an after market cooler i would suggest a sythe mugen 2 its around $30 and its got good performance.

video cards: x2 gtx 275 if you go with nvidia, one 5870 if you go with ATI or x2 5850's in crossfire (awesome cards), or how many of each you want

ram: OCZ Platinum Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 CL7 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit (i like this ram, and the company.)
another ram choice: mushkin http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... its got a latency of 6 which is very good for ddr3 ram., buts its pricey.

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD640AALS 640GB 32M Cache

cases: antec 1200 (i own this case and i love it), you will need room for an SLI/Crossfire setup

PSU: like i said earlier, i personally like corsair, the 750tx (i believe thats what its called is a great psu). but you might want to go maybe up to 800w. my internet isnt working good right now so i cant find a good psu right now, post a link asap
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October 6, 2009 12:33:01 AM

wahjahka said:
video cards: x2 gtx 275 if you go with nvidia, one 5870 if you go with ATI or x2 5850's in crossfire (awesome cards), or how many of each you want
Crossfire 5850s on 1024x768 resolution? lol
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October 6, 2009 1:47:44 AM

WR2 said:
Crossfire 5850s on 1024x768 resolution? lol

why not hahaha :p , good point though, i forgot about the res
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October 6, 2009 2:08:52 AM

okay guys ! :D  for now ill get 1 card ! but i need a medium one ! a good one but not very expensive , i wont be able to get any :(  is the Sapphire HD 4850 x2 2G GDDR3 ! good ??? for my computer ! ??
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October 6, 2009 2:16:22 AM

Gamer14 said:
okay guys ! :D  for now ill get 1 card ! but i need a medium one ! a good one but not very expensive , i wont be able to get any :(  is the Sapphire HD 4850 x2 2G GDDR3 ! good ??? for my computer ! ??

what games do you want to play? or already play? and whats your budget for the video card?
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October 6, 2009 2:19:24 AM

The kinda GFX cards in the OP is like banging a staple in w/ a 6 pound sledgehammer.....way overkill.

Are you sure you are not running 1280 x 1024 on your monitor ? 1024 x 768 is not a "native" resolution for that size

1024 x 768 is usually found on 15" and 17"
1280 x 1024 thru 1680 x 1250 on 19"jobs
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October 6, 2009 6:25:09 PM

i really dont have a specific budget for the VGA card ! im just seeking a good VGA card but not so expensive , and i play games well ive downloaded them but i couldnt play them ! i got : Assassin's Creed + Dark Sector + Dark Space + Doom 3 + Universe At War Earth Assault + World In Conflict + Medieval 2 Total War + Tom Clancy Ghost Recon and some other games like that and ill get Crysis too ! so guys for now just a small question if i ran the GTS 250 on that computer i think the mobo , the proc , the rams will increase my gaming speed it will be so fast so it will help the GTS 250 and in the future ill get a good VGA card without doing any SLI or CrossFire ! what do u think ? and whats the suggested VGA for me ? for my budget $1200 to $1400 ! what do u think of the GTX 260 ? or ... ?
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October 6, 2009 10:32:47 PM

i would get the gtx 260 over the gts 250, i have a gtx 260 right now, and it can play all my games (crysis, bioshock, cod4, world in conflict, half life 2, company of heroes, unreal tourney 2004 and 3 and some others, its a great card, beats the gts 250 and it wont break your wallet
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October 6, 2009 11:29:47 PM

Hehe. I have a good advice for you Gamer14. Note: Sorry if I'm wrong but I'm just trying to help you.
1-If you really want to build your own computer, check guides explaining you what is a computer (part by part), what is your needs and what are the appropriate parts for your needs!
2- Forums are nice but guides, benchmarks or reviews will give you most of the time better informations and you'll learn by the way lot of things!
3- Beware... The informations you may find aren't always good. So, try to take your informations from trusable sites like THW, benchmark.com, etc.

Good luck!
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October 7, 2009 12:18:53 AM

i know ive been doing this along time ago ! but i had no time studying both english and russian ! couldnt have enough time to do that in a good way ! but in truth i found a new informations about computers and stuff ive never been aware of !
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October 7, 2009 12:22:13 AM

okay then ! ill go for the GTX 260 ! but hey ive heard that Intel will be realiseing a new Cores in 2010 named Core i9 ! do u think i should wait to get that Core and of course with a new motherboard or the core i7 will be enough for me ?? just wondering
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October 7, 2009 4:23:30 AM

Gamer14 said:
okay then ! ill go for the GTX 260 ! but hey ive heard that Intel will be realiseing a new Cores in 2010 named Core i9 ! do u think i should wait to get that Core and of course with a new motherboard or the core i7 will be enough for me ?? just wondering

perhaps, i dont know anything about the new cpus from intel, but if you want to wait then wait, depends on if you want a new rig now or next year, video card prices will be lower by then (especially the older hardware like the gtx 260) i assume, its alll up to you, but the new cpus will probably be expensive along with the newer motherboards
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October 7, 2009 5:10:21 AM

Gamer14 said:
okay then ! ill go for the GTX 260 ! but hey ive heard that Intel will be realiseing a new Cores in 2010 named Core i9 ! do u think i should wait to get that Core and of course with a new motherboard or the core i7 will be enough for me ?? just wondering


Stick with the core i7. The i9 will be over kill for anything we normally use today (unless your the worlds best multi-tasker ;)  ). In fact, most of the people with i7 haven't fully use it power of all 8 threads. Core i9 will have 12 threads. *2 threads per core*

So at the moment, i would not recommend anything higher than the i7. Although maybe a year or 2 down the road a 6 core cpu will not be a bad idea.


Some of the specs i have heard about the I9,

2.4 GHz cpu (maybe higher. Only seen Engineering samples at 2.4 GHz.)

6 core / 12 threads

12 mb L3 cache

Will be compaitble with current 1366 LGA socket motherboards. *with a bios update that is.* (same socket as the core i7 920, 940, and 950 cpu uses)

rumored to be release as an extreme edition only, meaning it will cost 1k U.S. dollars. (could be confirmed)

Any more questions, feel free to ask.
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October 7, 2009 5:35:26 AM

warmon6 said:
Stick with the core i7. The i9 will be over kill for anything we normally use today (unless your the worlds best multi-tasker ;)  ). In fact, most of the people with i7 haven't fully use it power of all 8 threads. Core i9 will have 12 threads. *2 threads per core*

So at the moment, i would not recommend anything higher than the i7. Although maybe a year or 2 down the road a 6 core cpu will not be a bad idea.


Some of the specs i have heard about the I9,

2.4 GHz cpu (maybe higher. Only seen Engineering samples at 2.4 GHz.)

6 core / 12 threads

12 mb L3 cache

Will be compaitble with current 1366 LGA socket motherboards. *with a bios update that is.* (same socket as the core i7 920, 940, and 950 cpu uses)

rumored to be release as an extreme edition only, meaning it will cost 1k U.S. dollars. (could be confirmed)

Any more questions, feel free to ask.

i learned something new today! thanks though for that info on the new cpu's
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October 7, 2009 5:39:23 AM

wahjahka said:
i learned something new today! thanks though for that info on the new cpu's


No problem. Glad to helped. :D 
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October 7, 2009 9:41:15 AM

okay so this is the final computer :
Motherboard : GigaByte Ex-58 EXTREME
Processor : Core i7 920 2.66
Case : Antec 900
VGA : GTX 260
Rams : OCZ Platinum Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 CL7 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit OR mushkin 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 998691 !
Hard Drive : Western Digital Caviar Black WD640AALS 640GB 32M Cache
Power Supply : unknown yet but ill stick with a cool one that is higher than 600 v ! 600 v + will be enough for this computer ?
will it be good in gaming and stuff ? i mean real good super fast sonic speed lol ?
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October 7, 2009 10:38:19 PM

Gamer14 said:
okay so this is the final computer :
Motherboard : GigaByte Ex-58 EXTREME
Processor : Core i7 920 2.66
Case : Antec 900
VGA : GTX 260
Rams : OCZ Platinum Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 CL7 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit OR mushkin 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model 998691 !
Hard Drive : Western Digital Caviar Black WD640AALS 640GB 32M Cache
Power Supply : unknown yet but ill stick with a cool one that is higher than 600 v ! 600 v + will be enough for this computer ?
will it be good in gaming and stuff ? i mean real good super fast sonic speed lol ?

i would get a corsair 750tx psu:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
it might be more then you need buts its future proof and i own one and its a great psu
umm as for the RAM, what timings are the mushkins? maybe provide a link for those sets of RAM
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October 7, 2009 10:41:52 PM

First of all, if you plan to put a i7-920 on your system, you should try to think at a double GPU configuration & overclock the CPU.
If you don't want a second G/C, go with the i5 (if you really want Intel). If you don't want to overclock, go with the i5.

Secondly, do you need a "good super fast sonic speed" computer? Do you know that most of actual application don't get a lot of benefit from a 4th core? Do you know what is your needs? What kind of game you play? Which resolution you want?
If you dress the list of all your needs, then it's possible to pick the right parts for you, so you won't pay for something you won't use at its full potential.
You should try to take a look at this:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advice
And
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/257075-31-guide-choosing-parts
And
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu,2437.html
And, and, and and and! There's so many articles/guides/benchmarks on THW, try to take a look at the fantastic work they did to help us.

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October 7, 2009 10:45:03 PM

Just a nickname said:
First of all, if you plan to put a i7-920 on your system, you should try to think at a double GPU configuration & overclock the CPU.
If you don't want a second G/C, go with the i5 (if you really want Intel). If you don't want to overclock, go with the i5.

Secondly, do you need a "good super fast sonic speed" computer? Do you know that most of actual application don't get a lot of benefit from a 4th core? Do you know what is your needs? What kind of game you play? Which resolution you want?
If you dress the list of all your needs, then it's possible to pick the right parts for you, so you won't pay for something you won't use at its full potential.
You should try to take a look at this:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advice
And
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/257075-31-guide-choosing-parts
And
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-gaming-cpu,2437.html
And, and, and and and! There's so many articles/guides/benchmarks on THW, try to take a look at the fantastic work they did to help us.

nice post, he posted his resolution earlier i think it was 1024x768.....and he listed some games he played
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October 7, 2009 10:51:28 PM

@wahjahka 700W PSU you say! HaHa...

Oh and BTW for the PSU. A 400-500W PSU is perfect for 1 G/C and no overclocking at all for most system!
If you're not sure, here is an usefull link: http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp

@Gamer14 Get your own informations. You can't know where forumers get their informations. Therefor, you can't know if what they say is true, so I highly suggest you to read more.
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October 7, 2009 10:53:00 PM

@wahjahka God! if his resolution is that low, I'd get an AMD platform!
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October 7, 2009 10:56:31 PM

Just a nickname said:
@wahjahka 700W PSU you say! HaHa...

Oh and BTW for the PSU. A 400-500W PSU is perfect for 1 G/C and no overclocking at all for most system!
If you're not sure, here is an usefull link: http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp

@Gamer14 Get your own informations. You can't know where forumers get their informations. Therefor, you can't know if what they say is true, so I highly suggest you to read more.

it was actually 750 :p , and the reason i suggested that is because one its more future proof just incase he wants to o/c or add a second gpu or something and he stated in one of his earlier posts that he wanted to run SLI or Crossfire..(even though having a dual gpu solution for his resolution is pointless and way overkill)..but when i bought my pc, i chose a 750 (which was way more then i needed, but im glad i got that cause i started overclocking and added a 2nd gpu...)
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October 7, 2009 10:57:37 PM

Just a nickname said:
@wahjahka God! if his resolution is that low, I'd get an AMD platform!

have a feeling that that res isnt his native res, why wouldnt you want to use the native res, no idea, but i think hes set on an intel cpu
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October 7, 2009 11:18:50 PM

Do you realise that computer parts aren't free? Do you know that you pay a lot more for a 750*W PSU than any 500W? Why pay for something you don't need?

I don't want to play your game, but gamer14 said the he didnt want to O/C. Thus, I try to tell him that he should pick an other CPU.
@"he wanted to run SLI or Crossfire..." Yes, he wanted. The OP clearly mentionned one GTX 260 in his previous build post.

If I am not wrong, I think that gamer14 should revise his build because he can get something perfect for him at lower cost. Instead of wasting a 300+$ on an overkiller platform.

@"he listed some games he played" He played or he wants to play? If he's able to run them so why do you propose him the brand new CPU, the GTX 260, etc.?
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October 7, 2009 11:21:55 PM

Just a nickname said:
Do you realise that computer parts aren't free? Do you know that you pay a lot more for a 750*W PSU than any 500W? Why pay for something you don't need?

I don't want to play your game, but gamer14 said the he didnt want to O/C. Thus, I try to tell him that he should pick an other CPU.
@"he wanted to run SLI or Crossfire..." Yes, he wanted. The OP clearly mentionned one GTX 260 in his previous build post.

If I am not wrong, I think that gamer14 should revise his build because he can get something perfect for him at lower cost. Instead of wasting a 300+$ on an overkiller platform.

@"he listed some games he played" He played or he wants to play? If he's able to run them so why do you propose him the brand new CPU, the GTX 260, etc.?

i agree with you 100% i am not saying that anything you have said was wrong or anything, i just always get more power jic i need it for future upgrades thats all, lets not argue with each other hahaha
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October 7, 2009 11:56:53 PM

guys i understand your point but the issue here is a limited budget and thnx God somehow i convienced my dad to increase it now we are looking at : about $1800 $2000 budget ! for the O/C i said im not going to over clock to maintain my budget for the VGA's sake also something very powerful u dont need now , u might be in need for it tomorrow no one knows ! and ill give u an example : things i dont need heres one : the GigaByte Ex-58 EXTREME ? why i should go for the EXTREME one ? its very expensive and i got no use for it ! the point is extra cooling - could be adding extra features in the future as my new budget is growing again ill be able to add more items and stuff u know what i mean ! second of all : ive checked the resolutions and ive seen a good one i think ill go for it soon 1152 by 864 pixels and i wont buy the GTS 250 ill go for the GTX 260 ! on a 19 LCD monitor ! i saw the 21 LCD and i didnt like it really ! and for adding the 3 VGAs i said that i cant get 2 cards for now very hard to get them but i can get only 1 for now and within 6 months ill get the second if i had the money but at least i got more features and options left on the book ! :) 
the better PC u get the more ull be able to secure some of the future needs for programs and games !
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October 7, 2009 11:59:01 PM

srry forgot to mention this : i will over clock but i need a CPU cooler which i cant provide at the moment so i will use the Intel fans with the Cooler chip on the mobo and also im going for the Antec 1200 more fans ! but i wont be over clocking until i get a CPU cooler like Zalman , i dont wanna burn my processor !
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October 7, 2009 11:59:50 PM

Gamer14 said:
guys i understand your point but the issue here is a limited budget and thnx God somehow i convienced my dad to increase it now we are looking at : about $1800 $2000 budget ! for the O/C i said im not going to over clock to maintain my budget for the VGA's sake also something very powerful u dont need now , u might be in need for it tomorrow no one knows ! and ill give u an example : things i dont need heres one : the GigaByte Ex-58 EXTREME ? why i should go for the EXTREME one ? its very expensive and i got no use for it ! the point is extra cooling - could be adding extra features in the future as my new budget is growing again ill be able to add more items and stuff u know what i mean ! second of all : ive checked the resolutions and ive seen a good one i think ill go for it soon 1152 by 864 pixels and i wont buy the GTS 250 ill go for the GTX 260 ! on a 19 LCD monitor ! i saw the 21 LCD and i didnt like it really ! and for adding the 3 VGAs i said that i cant get 2 cards for now very hard to get them but i can get only 1 for now and within 6 months ill get the second if i had the money but at least i got more features and options left on the book ! :) 
the better PC u get the more ull be able to secure some of the future needs for programs and games !

thats a very nice budget, my mom will only let me spend $1300! with that budget you have a lot of options, why not try picking out the parts your interested in and etc, and see how much it comes out to and post it and ask any questions or comments you have
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October 8, 2009 12:01:22 AM

Gamer14 said:
srry forgot to mention this : i will over clock but i need a CPU cooler which i cant provide at the moment so i will use the Intel fans with the Cooler chip on the mobo and also im going for the Antec 1200 more fans ! but i wont be over clocking until i get a CPU cooler like Zalman , i dont wanna burn my processor !

how huch are you looking to spend on the cpu cooler? with a 1800-2000 budget you can afford everything you need and then some..the sythe mugen 2 was a cpu cooler i was looking at, its under $40 on newegg.com and i believe got some good reviews/
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October 8, 2009 12:38:03 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply $139.99 - $20.00 Mail-In Rebate Card Free Shipping*

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $169.99
ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Discount: -$10.00 Combo Price: $306.98
Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
Scythe MUGEN-2 SCMG-2000 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $4.99
Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Discount: -$7.00 Combo Price: $212.98
OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G1600LV6GK - Retail l
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drives - OEM

LG Black 8X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-ROM SATA Internal Combo LG Blu-ray Reader & 16X LightScribe DVD±R DVD Burner retail: $104.99 Free Shipping*

2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $219.99
GIGABYTE GV-N275UD-896I GeForce GTX 275 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail: 440$


Total: $1450 w/out a monitor.

With that build, you can set to everything to max on a 1920x1200 resolution. With your 1800$ cap, you cover all the tax/shipping fees and you will probably be able to get a really good 1920x1200 monitor. The build is compatible with a 2560x1600 resolution but at 1000$ the monitor it's not really affordable yet.

I was planning to get this build but I decided to wait until the new Radeons card come. I'm still waiting for the new version of Radeon because at the moment there's only a few model available and there's no DX11 card in the ATIs side.

This is a SLI/CF build, thus if you don't plan to have SLI/CF - don't pay for it!
REMEMBER you must overclock this system, if you don't you'll stupidly lose free performance.
I know you don't like to overclock, there's exellent guide on THW telling you what is overclocking, how to overclock and even how to overclock the i7-920 to 3.6+GHz easily.

You can go on a CF platform with the 2x5870 but you have to spend a good 740$
I think that the 5850 is a really good card for its price, but I can't say much... It's probably a better option than the 2xGTX 275 at 100 more bucks.
Up to you to see what you want. I wouldn't buy now if I was you. Wait, read and stay informed - new models may come really soon!

This is my final suggestion for a full 1400-1800 gaming system (2xGTX 275).
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BUT, I strongly suggest you to not buy yet. I think you don't so much power from a computer and you could have a cheaper computer fitting your needs.
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October 8, 2009 12:41:08 AM

You can save 70$ on the driver, it's just that I need a bluray =)

Note: Open a new topic on homebuild system => new system build but read this before then add my build suggestion so you'll probably receive a better build or improvement for my build!

Have fun
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October 8, 2009 12:45:56 AM

Just a nickname said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $69.99
COOLER MASTER RC-690-KKN1-GP Black SECC/ ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply $139.99 - $20.00 Mail-In Rebate Card Free Shipping*

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $169.99
ASRock X58 Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Discount: -$10.00 Combo Price: $306.98
Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
Scythe MUGEN-2 SCMG-2000 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $4.99
Tuniq TX-2 Cooling Thermal Compound - Retail

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Combo Discount: -$7.00 Combo Price: $212.98
OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G1600LV6GK - Retail l
Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drives - OEM

LG Black 8X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-ROM SATA Internal Combo LG Blu-ray Reader & 16X LightScribe DVD±R DVD Burner retail: $104.99 Free Shipping*

2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $219.99
GIGABYTE GV-N275UD-896I GeForce GTX 275 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail: 440$


Total: $1450 w/out a monitor.

With that build, you can set to everything to max on a 1920x1200 resolution. With your 1800$ cap, you cover all the tax/shipping fees and you will probably be able to get a really good 1920x1200 monitor. The build is compatible with a 2560x1600 resolution but at 1000$ the monitor it's not really affordable yet.

I was planning to get this build but I decided to wait until the new Radeons card come. I'm still waiting for the new version of Radeon because at the moment there's only a few model available and there's no DX11 card in the ATIs side.

This is a SLI/CF build, thus if you don't plan to have SLI/CF - don't pay for it!
REMEMBER you must overclock this system, if you don't you'll stupidly lose free performance.
I know you don't like to overclock, there's exellent guide on THW telling you what is overclocking, how to overclock and even how to overclock the i7-920 to 3.6+GHz easily.

You can go on a CF platform with the 2x5870 but you have to spend a good 740$
I think that the 5850 is a really good card for its price, but I can't say much... It's probably a better option than the 2xGTX 275 at 100 more bucks.
Up to you to see what you want. I wouldn't buy now if I was you. Wait, read and stay informed - new models may come really soon!

This is my final suggestion for a full 1400-1800 gaming system (2xGTX 275).
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BUT, I strongly suggest you to not buy yet. I think you don't so much power from a computer and you could have a cheaper computer fitting your needs.

^+1. gamer14 i have to say that this is a great build he posted cant make any other suggestions, i also im gettin that motherboard for my new rig, it got great reviews for its price
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October 8, 2009 1:16:12 AM

yes but you need to remember i live in Egypt ! so i wont be able to find most of these things for sure ! im just trying to stick myself to the best hardware i can find ! ive seen the XFX nVidia X58 motherboard and its for gamers and im just a gamer even tho i wont go for it ! its just i dont have much variates :( 
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