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is there Any way of not Voiding your Warranty With a After Market VGA Cooler?

i have a VisionTek 4850 and want to reduce the heat Plus Noise i know its fine and suppose to get hot it stays at the right Temp level i just want it cooler and less noisy...

is there something that is impossible to put back on your Video Card after Removing the old heat sink
or some kind of notification that they will see if you have to send it to the company for RMA if it gos Bad?

if any one happens to know i would be very thankful for your time

and if its not to much whats the Best New Heat sink to slap on that baby?


Message edited by malstrom on 07-27-2009 at 07:01:15 PM
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First off I would contact VisionTek and have them answer that question, I know it is not an issue with XFX and BFG.....all other vendors are kinda sketchy as to what can/cannot be done with a video card....

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Personally i dont know. This kind of question comes up every once in a while. Some companies EVGA is one i think that are quite happy for you to swap out the cooling system and OC the card. Others will say it voids the warranty, thing is like you are wondering, how are they going to know. As long as you replace the old cooling arangement if you need to send it back and the changes you made didnt mean you had to physically alter the card then i cant see the problem, and cant see how they could tell.

Mactronix

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+1 "mactronix"

Thx for the EVGA update... never had a problem with EVGA cards so i would not know what their policies are....

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I checked with a link i had when we did this last and EVGA say as long as there is no physical damage to the card you can change the cooler, as long as its returned with tehstock cooler its all good.

Mactronix

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Darn, Well i guess ill give these guys a Call never have used VisionTek before, its a great card by the way Just dont like the heat its giving off plus My pc already brings my Room Temp up and it is Hot here so my Room is the hottest in the house i was thinking of going Water Cooled

Oh! dose any 1 know if you can put Oil in water cooling Devices? like Veggie oil i don't think car oil would be a good choice... just carious..


Thanks for the info Any way Bless ya all

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Don't use anything other than these types of liquid :

http://www.xoxide.com/koolance-liq-700bu-b.html

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mactronix wrote :

Personally i dont know. This kind of question comes up every once in a while. Some companies EVGA is one i think that are quite happy for you to swap out the cooling system and OC the card. Others will say it voids the warranty, thing is like you are wondering, how are they going to know. As long as you replace the old cooling arangement if you need to send it back and the changes you made didnt mean you had to physically alter the card then i cant see the problem, and cant see how they could tell.

Mactronix


They can tell Because the thermal compound they use. If you have ever taken apart a gpu heat sink it is apparent if it has been done before on that card or not.

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malstrom wrote :

Darn, Well i guess ill give these guys a Call never have used VisionTek before, its a great card by the way Just dont like the heat its giving off plus My pc already brings my Room Temp up and it is Hot here so my Room is the hottest in the house i was thinking of going Water Cooled

Oh! dose any 1 know if you can put Oil in water cooling Devices? like Veggie oil i don't think car oil would be a good choice... just carious..


Thanks for the info Any way Bless ya all


Unless you manage to dump the heat outside or into another room, your room temperature will be the same regardless of whether you use the stock heatsink or an after market one.

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Ok i got a hold of the AMD tech support but could not get a hold of VisionTek im going to drop them a Email
the Tech guy said it would probly be ok as long as the new heat sink wont cause it to fail but he did not seem to sure

But witch Heat sink should i get any suggestions?

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Thanks you my Good man :) can i run a Cross fire Adapter through that Thing?

do i have to get a Fan to how about a complete assembly?

im guessing im going to need some Thermal compound

im gonig to order some more stuff like some more Ram and some other things cant think of it right now

oh i was going to order a Ups but i went and got that today cause shipping was going to be alot almost forgot LOL...

i just got the APC 750VA 70min battery Backup power thingy Very nice i must say has some sweet options

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Don't worry about it, its fanless and already has pre-applied paste.. Look at the pics.....

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Reply to OvrClkr

so that is the best of the best?

A Fan would be a waste?

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You don't put fans on fan-less heatsinks.... They dissapate the heat by themselves......

As far as BEST of the BEST I don't know but it works flawless and keeps your temps down....

You can still Xfire but you will need a longer ribbon... Not a biggie.... ;)


Message edited by OvrClkr on 07-29-2009 at 08:49:26 PM
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That is another winner, but if you decide to use a fan on that one, you have to make sure you have enough clearance.. It's more expensive too...

The AC is enough for your needs... If you want something more flashy and cash is not an option..the go with the Thermalright....

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will this one fit? i love the way it looks very nice


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835118037

Reply to malstrom

are there some Reviews or benchmarks on all of these?

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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835185081

check that Bad boy out i like that alot i have a Scythe fan it kicks butt very nice product

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That is a badass cooler, but when you plan on paying 50.00$ or more you normally consider buying a new videocard all together.....

I dont use fanless-heatsinks due to i am the other way around... I like the noise... so IMO the AC should be more than enough for your needs... And remember if you dont want noise then dont get a cooler that has a fan, no point....

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Reply to OvrClkr

Ok i think i have made up my mind im going to get the Zalmen VF1000

do you know if i can cross fire cause im going to put it on a new video card when i get one

or like you said they make a longer cross fire ribbon?

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Not bad, but remember to measure before you buy, the AC is by far the lowest profile of all sinks and thats why IMO its a better buy....

Yea there are different sized crossfire ribbons..... You can view them on ebay if you like....

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Reply to OvrClkr

Newegg dose not have the AC :(

Reply to malstrom

THis 1 i would really want but its not there any more

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] tedata.com

Reply to malstrom

are there any coolers that have exhaust ports going out the back?

Reply to malstrom

ok forget the Gigabyte it not as good as i thought i just love the design


Do i have to put the little Heat sinks on and how? will that make a big difference?

i want to be safe and not have to much crap on there just incase the card gos after a few years

i cant find the AC for my Card on Newegg i want it from new egg cuz im ordering more ram and some cleaning solution also i can get the Zalmen VF1000 for $38 off new egg thats a good Freakin deal

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Yea, get the zalman if you can only order from the egg......

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Reply to OvrClkr

Found the AC though it was a different model But now im finding out if i get the Zalmen i basicly need to get the extra Ram sink package i didnt even want to put them on there now i have to find a cooler that will cover the whole card

would that be fine not puting the heat sinks on? or do i have to and should i get a Cooler thats going to cover the whole dang thing?

back to the dang drawing board

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Umm, didnt understand the question.....

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Reply to OvrClkr

if i take my stock cooler off i heard that the V ram and other things on the Video card will get hotter because After market coolers don't have the best air circulation

and i did not want to have to stick a bunch of heat Sinks on my Card like look at the VF1000 its nice but you basicly have to get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835118038

so i just want to know if there's A VGA cooler that will be like the stock one just bigger and better but will cool every thing

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Well yea, thats why card makers make sure the fan blows hot air out through the back and not into the case...

If you get the AC or zalman, the heat should not be an issue, unless you case has bad air circulation.. IF you have good intake and exaust fans you should be fine....

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Reply to OvrClkr

i have a big freakin scythe fan pushing air straight out just for the VGA

but there has to be some card Coolers out there that cool the Memory modules as well without buying extra crap

Reply to malstrom

check this out thats the only thing i dont like VRM is important is it not?

so im guessing they have not made a custom Fit Cooler for the 4800's yet

are there any new VGA coolers coming out that i should wait for?

make sure i get the VRM cooled better and the Shader Core?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/c [...] hi_12.html

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This is what I am trying to explain to you, if you want NO NOISE AT ALL you need a fanless heatsink... If you go with a Scythe or Turbo Twins you are just wasting your money, due to the fact they will emit the same noise as your stock cooler at 100% fan speed... so its a matter if you want 0 noise or keep the stock fan....

As far as upcomming coolers for the 4800 family I would not know, i dont use them....

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Reply to OvrClkr

the fan on this card is high pitch at 100% i have a Ultra kaze that is suppose to be one of the loudest case fans out there and the little Fan on my Card is 4 times as loud no joke

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Well why is it loud @ 100% fan speed? are you gaming? watching high res movies?

If you are playing a game the volume should surpass any noise that is comming from the case... What is the exact reason you dont like the fan noise?

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Reply to OvrClkr

this thing is loud man its like a freaking turbo jet lol

the highest i will turn the fan up to is 67% 47% is good but it gets so damn hot

http://paddy007uk.freeservers.com/ [...] talled.png

my only concern is it dont cover the whole card do you have any idea what the heat sinks are on top of in the back?

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How hot does it get? What is the temp at 67% fan speed?

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Reply to OvrClkr

Fan speed at 47% 4892 RPM what i alwasy have it at cause any higher then 57% it gets to loud

GPU Temp 68c

Memio 70.5c

ShaderCore 68c

at idle

GPU is around 66c at 67%



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Reply to malstrom
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That is waaaaaay to hot for a GPU @ 47% fan speed.... What is your room temp? 90F??? Must be hot in your room or you need a replacement (RMA) ASAP

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Reply to OvrClkr

i think it is 90F i sweat just sitting here but it never gos above 92c under load and these cards are rated up to 110c i believe

Reply to malstrom
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Yea if its 90f or higher in your room you need to start saving for a watercooling setup!!!!

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Reply to OvrClkr

I do, Could you give me a link to a good full setup? im just iffy about water being in the same place as Electronics is there something like Veggy oil that wont ruin the PC if some how it drips on it?

My Card is at 70c Idle today its a hot 1"

Reply to malstrom
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What is the most you can pay at the moment?

Reply to OvrClkr
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Look at these first and study them...

http://www.xoxide.com/watcoolkit.html

Reply to OvrClkr
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Hi all.

I just got an RMA number for my Visiontek 4870. The card never was reliable, producing sporadic crashes, but progressed to causing the system to fail POST or filling the screen with red blocks.

Soon after I got it I replaced the heatsink / fan with the Koolance VID-487. I would recommend these water blocks although be really careful with the thermal pads. The ones supplied were not the right thickness. The motherboard is a Foxconn BlackOps so basically everything except the memory is water cooled to a radiator / fan mounted outside the house.

I'm hoping they honor the warranty but indeed there was no way to re-use the congealed thermal compound that came with the original cooler. I used Arctic 5 instead. Seems to me that is the only way they could tell the cooler was removed.


Message edited by jeffrs on 08-05-2009 at 05:59:49 PM
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ok after waiting 2 weeks for my VGA cooler cause new Egg shipped me a Open Box item when i first got it.. it had nothing but the cooler

So finally got the Correct one

Now i have a Question Should i use the Thermal Grease they Give me? or should i use the Arctic Silver i have?

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Use AS and test the temps.... There is really not a big difference when you compare both but in this case it would be wise to start off with the Artic Silver.......

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Reply to OvrClkr

Ok the Power Section of my Card will be Exposed is that ok? i have picked these up from radio Shack http://www.radioshack.com/product/ [...] Id=2102857
http://www.radioshack.com/product/ [...] SHjbIQFwpw

I dont think the Double Sided Tape will be good cause it only gos up to 200F/93c

Whats is the called at the End of my Card where the power Parts and Chips are Voltage Regulators? http://paddy007uk.freeservers.com/ [...] talled.png

Take a look this Guy covered His up with more Zalman Heatsinks http://images.google.com/imgres?im [...] safe%3Doff

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