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July 7, 2009 9:05:43 AM

Just took the great deal on i7 920 from Micro Center. Drove 5 hours one way to Chicago~ :kaola: 
Now that the brain of the computer is here, I am building her a sexy body.. so help me out here~ :lol: 
Most of my components are not decided for sure yet so I'll update accordingly.
I also need better suggestions to the system so feel free to shoot me something. :hello: 

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: 2 weeks - 1 month
BUDGET RANGE: $1600
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, internet, photoshop, minor audio making.
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Needs everything except OS
PREFERRED WEBSITES FOR PARTS: which ever has the cheapest price
PARTS PREFERENCES: Best parts for the price
OVERCLOCKING: free juice? Yes please!
Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes, if not now, in future.
MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1600x1200 and above
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Sexy looking case with good air-flow, good graphic card, generally high performance with good bang of bucks

:??:  = undecided
:bounce:  = Decided

Brain Cells: :bounce: 
i7 920 D0 stepping

Air Cooler: :??: 
Thermalright IFX-14 (reviews show really good cooling ability, but a bit pricey at $77)
Mugen 2 (a lot cheaper then IFX-14 at around $44, but still performs well)

Thermal Paste: :??: 
Arctic Silver 5
Arctic Cooling MX-2

Body: :??:  around $200
ASUS P6T (or should I get newer P6T Deluxe V2?)
MSI X58 Platinum SLI (Reviews are good)
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD4P (good reviews)

Skirt: :??:  around $120 Looking for good looking and cooling. Prefer top fan.
Antec 900 two. (I don't think the 900 or 900-2 are pretty enough, but can't go wrong with them)
COOLER MASTER HAF 922 (Big fans to keep her body from sweating)

RAM: :??: 
OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1866 (PC3 15000) ~ (seen people suggesting it)
OCZ Reaper HPC 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) ~ (a better RAM then Plainum?)

2 Questions here
1) Read about i7 system's RAM need to have a voltage below 1.65V, not sure what that means.
2) It seems PC3 16000 has higher latency then PC3 15000, is this a good thing or bad thing?

HD: :??:  (10k rpm up or SSD for OS, Lower speed for storage)
WD and Seagate seems to be good brands.

Graphics card: :??:  (need suggestions on GPU, pre-OC / not, and which brand to get) (will CF/SLI now or future)
ATI
MSI ATI HD 4890 - R4890-T2D1G-OC
HIS ATI 4870 - H487QT1GP
ASUS ATI 4870 - EAH4870 DK/HTDI/1GD5

Nvidia
MSI Geforce 260 - N260GTX-T2D896-OCv4
EVGA Geforce 260 - EVGA 896-P3-1257-AR

Sound card: :??: 
No idea~

Network: :??: 
No idea~

PSU: :??: 
No Idea~

DVD Player and writer: :??: 
No Idea~

Monitor: :??: 
No Idea~


Thanks for looking into my build, and please give me suggestions. The last time I've built my desktop was 10 years ago. I've survived a decade after that with laptops, but I've had enough of laptop's limitations~!!! Help set me FREE~~!! :pt1cable: 


Addition: 7/15/2009
I forgot to mention that I wanted the build to be a hackintosh too. Its going to be dual booting with Windows 7
July 7, 2009 9:54:23 AM

1. The bodies that you have chosen are all solid and would easily take your beating :p 
The P6T was released after the V2...So it is newer...
I would suggest either the P6T/ UD4P...Another very good alternative - ASUS Rampage Gene...It is as good as or little better than the P6T...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/rampage-gene-lanpar...

2. Skirt - Better to have the Full Tower HAF 932 so keeps her fresh and cool...

3. You wont much difference with those RAMs over the OCZ Platinum 1600MHz CAS 7 RAM except in benchmarks...There wont be significant real world performance difference...

2 Questions ? I see only 1...
1) The i7 RAMs RAM need to have a voltage below 1.65V because it has been specified by intel and anything above that voltage might cause harm for the components...

And dint see any CPU cooler, PSU, HDDs, Video cards...What did you choose ???
July 7, 2009 10:26:39 AM

gkay09 said:
1. The bodies that you have chosen are all solid and would easily take your beating :p 
The P6T was released after the V2...So it is newer...
I would suggest either the P6T/ UD4P...Another very good alternative - ASUS Rampage Gene...It is as good as or little better than the P6T...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/rampage-gene-lanpar...

2. Skirt - Better to have the Full Tower HAF 932 so keeps her fresh and cool...

3. You wont much difference with those RAMs over the OCZ Platinum 1600MHz CAS 7 RAM except in benchmarks...There wont be significant real world performance difference...

2 Questions ? I see only 1...
1) The i7 RAMs RAM need to have a voltage below 1.65V because it has been specified by intel and anything above that voltage might cause harm for the components...

And dint see any CPU cooler, PSU, HDDs, Video cards...What did you choose ???


I accidentally submitted the still editing post... lol.. you came in too early..
The micro center guy told me V2 was newer... thanks for pointing that out.
As much as I like those huge fans in HAF 932, I fear that they are too noisy?!
Question 2 is here now :) 
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July 7, 2009 10:50:26 AM

Seems you have updadted your post...

here are the suggestions that you can consider...

1. Mobo - P6T/ UD4P/ Rampage Gene
I would say get which ever is cheaper...any of the above mobo as very good...

2. Air cooler - Of Course the Scythe Mugen 2...
Has such good performance for the money...
And is $36 with Free Shipping on newegg...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3. Thermal Paste - Why not the latest and best ?
TX-3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4. CASE - Any of the case that you have chosen are good...
But if you want better airflow and not worried much about the size, hen get the HAF 932...Check out its reviews...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5. RAM - The higher speed RAMs, compensate for the CAS with their extra speed...So it is nearly the same having a DDR3 1866 with CAS 8/ DDR3 2000 with CAS 9...You can set the DDR3 2000 ones to 1800MHz and thus can reduce the CAS...
Here is a very good set of RAMs...
OCZ Platinum - DDR3 1600MHz with CAS 7...And like I said before you wont notice much real-world performance difference/ any difference at all with this one over those that you have listed...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SSD - Wait for some days as intel is set to lauch newer SSDs with higher capacities and lower prices...
and the drives (10k ) you are talking about, dont have the performance advantage now...
The WD Black 640GB/ 1TB drives offer good competitive performance for far less...

HDD - WD Black 640GB/ 1TB...

Graphics card -
Generally the card manufacturers choose good chips from the lot for factory overclock...So it might be a good idea going with those if they dont have very high price premium attached to them...

And that HD 4890 would easily beat the GTX 260 and the HD 4870 by a decent margin...

Sound card - Not required ...the onboard are HD so first check them out and then buy sound card...

Network - Onboard...

PSU - Corsair 750TX...

DVD - Any good LG/ Samsung/ Sony/ LiteOn/ Plextor...But make sure you
get SATA ones...

Monitor - Any good 1080P or 1920X1200 resolution ones...
July 7, 2009 3:19:02 PM

Here are some of my choices you should look at.

1) P6T v2 or Gene II

2) Case : CM HAF 932 or Antec 1200

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case $147.99 Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case $164.99
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=n82e168...

3) Ram : My Choices : the reason for these 3 brand of ram is that it is low profile, that you will need for most of the Aftermarket CPU Coolers, so you do not have to lose 1 or 2 slots.

OCZ XMP Ready Series 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3X1600LV6GK ($90.99 after $10.00 Mail-In Rebate)1.65V
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL8TU-6GBPI $99.99 (1.6V -1.65V)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

4) Scythe MUGEN-2 SCMG-2000 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler (Free gift w/ purchases, ends 8/31) $36.99 Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5) Tuniq TX-3 Extreme Performance and Exceptional Reliability Thermal Compound $10.99 ($5.99 after $5.00 Mail-In Rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

6) HDD's : would go with either the Black Editions' of the WD 640GB or 1TB.

7) ASUS ENGTX260 MATRIX/HTDI/896MD3 GeForce GTX 260 896MB 448-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail (Free Call of duty – World at war w/ purchase, limited offer) $199.99
($179.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate Card)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

8) PSU's
Modular
CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply $194.99 (Free Shipping)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply $164.99 (Free Shipping)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Non Modular
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W $139.99 ($119.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate Card) Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W $109.99 ($89.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate Card) Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

9) Monitors'
SAMSUNG 2343BWX High Glossy Black 23" 5ms $219.99 ($199.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG TOC T240 Rose Black 24" 5ms $309.99 ($279.99 after $30.00 Mail-In Rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS VK266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ Built in Speakers 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 20000:1 ) w/ Component and SPDIF out Connector - Retail (Built-in 2.0MP rotatable webcam)
$329.99 ($299.99 after $30.00 Mail-In Rebate Card) Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




July 14, 2009 2:13:48 AM

I've decided on some components, so here's the updated list.
Keep your suggestions coming. Cheers~ :D 

:??:  = undecided
:bounce:  = Decided

Brain Cells: :bounce:  bought
i7 920 D0 stepping

Air Cooler: :bounce: 
Mugen 2

Thermal Paste: :bounce: 
Tuniq TX-3 Extreme Performance and Exceptional Reliability Thermal Compound

Body: :??:  around $200
ASUS P6T (or should I get newer P6T Deluxe V2?)
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD4P (good reviews)
Open Box: ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
ASUS Rampage II Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard


Skirt: :??:  around $160 Looking for good looking and cooling. Prefer top fan.
Antec 1200.
Any more good suggestions? i want good air-flow and looks. Full tower for the space and air flow.

RAM: :bounce:  Bought
OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

HD: :bounce: 
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB

Graphics card: :??:  This one is hard~~ HD 4890 or GTX 275?
ATI
MSI ATI HD 4890 - R4890-T2D1G-OC

Nvidia
GTX 275

Sound card: :bounce: 
On board for now

Network: :bounce: 
On board for now

PSU: :bounce: 
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply

DVD Player and writer: :??: 
Don't know

Monitor :??:  Do you guys game on 1080? it seems too wide.. at this point leaning towards 1920x1200
ASUS VK266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
SAMSUNG 2343BWX High Glossy Black 23" 5ms $219.99 ($199.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate)
July 14, 2009 2:45:22 AM

Here are my suggestions:

MOBO:
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD4P

CASE:
Antec 1200.

Graphics card:
MSI ATI HD 4890 - R4890-T2D1G-OC

DVD Player and writer:
Just get the cheapest OEM DVD burner at Micro Center and you'll be fine.

Monitor :
ASUS VK266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail

You want to play at 1900 x 1200 for the best gaming experience at the max settingd. Your system will be able to do that on most games (Crysis excluded, since it takes SLI & Crossfire with highend cards to do so)
July 14, 2009 3:44:34 AM

tecmo34 said:
Here are my suggestions:

MOBO:
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD4P

CASE:
Antec 1200.

Graphics card:
MSI ATI HD 4890 - R4890-T2D1G-OC

DVD Player and writer:
Just get the cheapest OEM DVD burner at Micro Center and you'll be fine.

Monitor :
ASUS VK266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail

You want to play at 1900 x 1200 for the best gaming experience at the max settingd. Your system will be able to do that on most games (Crysis excluded, since it takes SLI & Crossfire with highend cards to do so)



Tecmo34, how does your PSU fit in 1200? are the cables long enough for the case?
July 14, 2009 4:20:57 AM

chanwhk said:
Tecmo34, how does your PSU fit in 1200? are the cables long enough for the case?

The PSU will be located @ the bottom of the Antec 1200.. You should get this Power extension cable, specially if you want to hide all your PSU cabling.

1ST PC CORP. 12" 8-pin EPS extension cable Model CB-8M-8F $7.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Over this past winter I built a computer for my friend using the same case, using the Corsair 1000w PSU. The Power will fit if you do not want to hide it, using the 1200 cable management cable system, but does look better when using the above Power extension cable. :wahoo: 
July 14, 2009 4:34:29 AM

^+1 on what Yoosty said....

He beat me to the punch on the 8-pin extension. Here is a pic of my PC, so you can get an idea on your cable management...
July 14, 2009 5:39:18 AM

If you're thinking of going with an Antec 1200, get the CP-850. It has a very high efficiency rating, costs less, and is modular compared to the Corsair. If you want to go with any other case (I have an Antec 1200, and I love it.) then stick with the Corsair. I recommend the Corsair PSU's over every other kind except the CP-850. Read this review.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

Newegg often has deals of the Antec 1200 and Antec CP-850 with a 40$ discount, that's how I got mine. Excellent product, worth the size.
July 14, 2009 10:01:12 PM

Yoosty said:
The PSU will be located @ the bottom of the Antec 1200.. You should get this Power extension cable, specially if you want to hide all your PSU cabling.

1ST PC CORP. 12" 8-pin EPS extension cable Model CB-8M-8F $7.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Over this past winter I built a computer for my friend using the same case, using the Corsair 1000w PSU. The Power will fit if you do not want to hide it, using the 1200 cable management cable system, but does look better when using the above Power extension cable. :wahoo: 



Thanks for the great tip~ just what i wanted. :) 
July 14, 2009 10:07:43 PM

radiowars said:
If you're thinking of going with an Antec 1200, get the CP-850. It has a very high efficiency rating, costs less, and is modular compared to the Corsair. If you want to go with any other case (I have an Antec 1200, and I love it.) then stick with the Corsair. I recommend the Corsair PSU's over every other kind except the CP-850. Read this review.
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

Newegg often has deals of the Antec 1200 and Antec CP-850 with a 40$ discount, that's how I got mine. Excellent product, worth the size.


I though about antec psu, it seems to be pretty good.. and great deal in Newegg with case. but didn't want to risk anything so i went with the generally best psu maker.. Looking into your suggestion now.. why not pay less if both psu are good :pt1cable: 
July 16, 2009 2:00:03 AM

I forgot to mention that I wanted the build to be a hackintosh too. It will be Dual boot with Windows 7.
So if you know which motherboard runs OSX well, please tell me.
July 16, 2009 8:49:11 AM

Bought some stuff today.. heres the updates.
Can't wait to see them arrive~~ :love: 


:??:  = undecided
:bounce:  = Decided

Brain Cells: :bounce:  bought Received
i7 920 D0 stepping

Air Cooler: :bounce: 
Mugen 2

Thermal Paste: :bounce: 
Tuniq TX-3 Extreme Performance and Exceptional Reliability Thermal Compound

Body: :??:  around $200
ASUS P6T (or should I get newer P6T Deluxe V2?)
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD4P (good reviews)
Open Box: ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
ASUS Rampage II Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard


Skirt: :??:  around $160 Looking for good looking and cooling. Prefer top fan.
Antec 1200.
Any more good suggestions? i want good air-flow and looks. Full tower for the space and air flow.

RAM: :bounce:  Bought Received
OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

HD: :bounce:  bought
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB

Graphics card: :bounce:  bought
MSI ATI HD 4890 - R4890-T2D1G-OC

Sound card: :bounce: 
On board for now

Network: :bounce: 
On board for now

PSU: :bounce:  bought
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply

DVD Player and writer: :??: 
Don't know

Monitor :??: Do you guys game on 1080? it seems too wide.. at this point leaning towards 1920x1200
ASUS VK266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
SAMSUNG 2343BWX High Glossy Black 23" 5ms $219.99 ($199.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate)




So its 9/13 completed~ thats 70% good I'm getting there~! :D 
I'm so bored waiting for the new parts, I've made my list look nicer.. :cry: 
July 18, 2009 8:52:56 AM

Bought stuff today again..
Its almost done..


:??:  = undecided
:bounce:  = Decided

Brain Cells: :bounce:  bought Received
i7 920 D0 stepping

Air Cooler: :bounce:  bought
Mugen 2

Thermal Paste: :bounce:  bought
Tuniq TX-3 Extreme Performance and Exceptional Reliability Thermal Compound

Body: :bounce:  Bought
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD5 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard

Skirt: :??:  around $160 Looking for good looking and cooling. Prefer top fan.
Antec 1200.
Cooler Master Stacker 830 (like the look but no side window)
Cooler Master 840 (nice aluminum)
Cooler Master Cosmo S
Cooler Master HAF 932 (not really my style)
Any more good suggestions? i want good air-flow and looks. Full tower for the space and air flow.

RAM: :bounce:  Bought Received
OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

HD: :bounce:  bought
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB

Graphics card: :bounce:  bought
MSI ATI HD 4890 - R4890-T2D1G-OC

Sound card: :bounce: 
On board for now

Network: :bounce: 
On board for now

PSU: :bounce:  bought
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply

DVD Player and writer: :bounce: 
SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223Q LightScribe Support - OEM

Monitor :bounce:  bought
ASUS VK266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail




Now only need a skirt to fit her in and look pretty.
July 18, 2009 9:34:28 AM

The Antec 1200 is still you best choice, price @ NewEgg now is $171.99 with Free Shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?item=n82e168...

You can also check out these 2 cases.

GIGABYTE GZ-FA2CA-AJB Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case $139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermaltake Xaser VI VG4000BNSB Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case $169.99 ($139.99 after $30.00 Mail-In Rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

July 18, 2009 10:36:59 AM

if you can afford it, the ATSC 840 is arguably the best case on the market so get that.

July 18, 2009 5:27:34 PM

cc2002cc... Thank You :D 

edit: ^+1 Yoosty on the Antec 1200. It is a very nice case & you'll be happy with it. :) 
July 19, 2009 6:31:55 PM

your build is looking GREAT so far, i just finished an almost identical build

i went with the gigabyte ud4p and i LOVE IT, i couldnt be happier, it is so easy to overclock, and with the d0 stepping CPU i can get 3.8 with low low low low low voltages. Lower than what the board came with stock for 2.66. I am sure that the UD5P is very similar with BIOS options, and all of that, so i think you will be happy there

I went with the HAF932 and it is a beauty, and it is QUIET , do not worry about noise with it, you can barely even tell it is on

I went with the Scythe Mugen 2, and i love it, with my OC @ 3.8 i idle at around 33 and load at 55. I could not be happier with that baby

I got the identical RAM as you, that is the only piece of the puzzle i am not 100% happy with, The price is great, and I am somewhat new to OC and for the life of me, with my overclock, i cannot get the ram to run about 1088mhz. I get the 7-7-7-24 timings, but everytime i try and bump up the mhz, the board wont post. Ive been told by a few friends that i would never notice the difference between the two, so im cool with it now, but just be warned, in reading reviews and whatnot, it can be really hard to get that ram to run at the right speed, the timings are perfect, but the speed is tough to achieve.

i went with the 750tx instead of the 850, not much difference there, extra power is never a bad thing.

I hope your build goes well man, i am in love with mine, and if you need any help with OC of the CPU, ill send you a copy of my BIOS, just dont ask me for help with the RAM, im about at my wits end with it, and just accepted the lower speed
July 19, 2009 6:46:44 PM

chronicbucks said:
I got the identical RAM as you, that is the only piece of the puzzle i am not 100% happy with, The price is great, and I am somewhat new to OC and for the life of me, with my overclock, i cannot get the ram to run about 1088mhz. I get the 7-7-7-24 timings, but everytime i try and bump up the mhz, the board wont post. Ive been told by a few friends that i would never notice the difference between the two, so im cool with it now, but just be warned, in reading reviews and whatnot, it can be really hard to get that ram to run at the right speed, the timings are perfect, but the speed is tough to achieve.

Did you adjust your vottage on the RAM? To get the RAM to run at 1600MHz and 7-7-7-24 timings, the RAM vottage needs to be what is listed on the RAM itself, which is 1.65V. You won't notice much difference as you said but what I said should help you get your MHz's up.

Also, I've seen people who have decreased their MHz and timings, while running at 1.65V to keep the lower timings stable. If I remember correctly, I've seen 1433MHz running at 6-6-6-20 timings or something along those lines in a thread or CPU verifier.
July 19, 2009 6:56:02 PM

i have tinkered around with changing the voltages, i will try some more later on today, thanks for the advice, i def appreciate it

chanwhk.........let me show you a photo of what my HAF 932 looks like, with pretty much the same stuff you got, only difference being the GPU, i went with the GTX 275

July 19, 2009 7:04:55 PM

chronicbucks said:
i have tinkered around with changing the voltages, i will try some more later on today, thanks for the advice, i def appreciate it

chanwhk.........let me show you a photo of what my HAF 932 looks like, with pretty much the same stuff you got, only difference being the GPU, i went with the GTX 275

http://i725.photobucket.com/albums/ww251/chronicbucks/DSCN1681.jpg
chronicbucks... very clean looking build!! :D  By how your build looks, it looks like the HAF932 might have a little bit more room than the Antec 1200.

You are welcome on adjusting the voltage of the RAM... just make sure you don't go over 1.65V... the Core i7's don't like that... :non: 
July 19, 2009 7:56:19 PM

thanks man, i put some serious time into the cable management. It might be a bit more roomier. It looks like it might be a little longer, more space between the drive bays and where the motherboard/GPus sit.

I have a question about your build, are those two evga gtx 275s??? how do you like the SLI set up, did it increase your performance much??

and also, in response to the ram voltages, some on the OCZ website have told me to raise the blck to 200 and i might have better luck?? im not at my house right now with my rig, will be later tonight, and then i will tru and tru and tru
July 19, 2009 8:06:07 PM

chronicbucks said:
I have a question about your build, are those two evga gtx 275s??? how do you like the SLI set up, did it increase your performance much??
Actually, I have two EVGA GTX260 Core 216 Superclocked video cards in SLI. I did see an improvement going with SLI. There is nothing I've played I can't max out with decent frame rates. I don't see me needing to upgrade GPU's until early next year with the DX11 cards... if even then.
July 20, 2009 4:42:49 PM

To those of you recommending the HAF932, how does it compare with the ANTEC 902?
July 20, 2009 5:13:40 PM

Very nice build i am actually making mine from this post. got the HAF392, Mugen and the corsair 750 psu in my cart right now deciding if i should order.

Hows the Asus 25.5 monitor for gaming i think it looks pretty sweet for the price.
July 20, 2009 7:50:02 PM

chronicbucks said:
your build is looking GREAT so far, i just finished an almost identical build

i went with the gigabyte ud4p and i LOVE IT, i couldnt be happier, it is so easy to overclock, and with the d0 stepping CPU i can get 3.8 with low low low low low voltages. Lower than what the board came with stock for 2.66. I am sure that the UD5P is very similar with BIOS options, and all of that, so i think you will be happy there

I went with the HAF932 and it is a beauty, and it is QUIET , do not worry about noise with it, you can barely even tell it is on

I went with the Scythe Mugen 2, and i love it, with my OC @ 3.8 i idle at around 33 and load at 55. I could not be happier with that baby

I got the identical RAM as you, that is the only piece of the puzzle i am not 100% happy with, The price is great, and I am somewhat new to OC and for the life of me, with my overclock, i cannot get the ram to run about 1088mhz. I get the 7-7-7-24 timings, but everytime i try and bump up the mhz, the board wont post. Ive been told by a few friends that i would never notice the difference between the two, so im cool with it now, but just be warned, in reading reviews and whatnot, it can be really hard to get that ram to run at the right speed, the timings are perfect, but the speed is tough to achieve.

i went with the 750tx instead of the 850, not much difference there, extra power is never a bad thing.

I hope your build goes well man, i am in love with mine, and if you need any help with OC of the CPU, ill send you a copy of my BIOS, just dont ask me for help with the RAM, im about at my wits end with it, and just accepted the lower speed



Great to see we have such similar build~ we must be alike~ haha :p 
I was initially going for Asus Rampage Extreme II for the motherboard.. but I want a fully working hackintosh so went with UD5P.
As for the case, am thinking between HAF 932 and Antec 1200... I like the Antec 1200's looking more though. So might go with that.
Glad that you love your system, gives me lots of confident in mine.. lol.. my last build was 10 years ago when I was a junior high.. so the new technologies are a little overwhelming to me. When all the parts came, i have to learn OC again... i've only done minor CPU OC 10 years ago.. :p 


Thanks for the pic too, looks great.. and wow to the mugen... man that think is a beast~!
July 20, 2009 8:00:05 PM

unoeye said:
Very nice build i am actually making mine from this post. got the HAF392, Mugen and the corsair 750 psu in my cart right now deciding if i should order.

Hows the Asus 25.5 monitor for gaming i think it looks pretty sweet for the price.



Pick everything I've picked.. lol.. Save your eyes staring at reviews... I picked 850 so I have more rooms for future CF and updateds.

I think the Asus 25.5 looks great with 2ms for gaming.. Most people says they are awesome with no ghosting issues etc..
July 20, 2009 8:06:54 PM

I think im gonna go for the 850 also, I dont know what to do about gpu's though with dx11 cards looming.

I wont have enough for the guts for atleast a month+ so i am getting the case, PSU and a couple other things now while i have a little money. If i dont buy it now i will waste my money on booze and smokes.

I dunno if the prices will go down by then but one can only hope :D 
July 20, 2009 8:22:03 PM

unoeye said:
I think im gonna go for the 850 also, I dont know what to do about gpu's though with dx11 cards looming.

I wont have enough for the guts for atleast a month+ so i am getting the case, PSU and a couple other things now while i have a little money. If i dont buy it now i will waste my money on booze and smokes.

I dunno if the prices will go down by then but one can only hope :D 



When are Dx11 cards coming out? I'll plan ahead for it while my HD 4890 hasn't arrived yet.. :pt1cable: 
Do it in a month allows you more time for deals tracking.. so you can save some bucks..

I fired to the i7 920 CPU first because it was $199 in microcenter, which gives me the motivation to build what I have now.
July 20, 2009 8:39:04 PM

I have heard somewhere in october im not %100 certain though. And i hope the boards will come down in price for the good ones but i highly doubt that the cpu might though.

And thats a really good deal for that CPU. I dunno what i wanna do i really want to play Crysis at 1920 x 1200 im gonna try to finish off my build based on good FPS for crysis.

Very excited about getting the asus 25.5 monitor also i might wait for that to come down a bit but its still a great deal.

Im really excited about building this. If i read your op correctly its been 10 years since i built a gaming rig as well so i am nervous.

How hard was it installing the mugen?
July 21, 2009 5:16:20 AM

chanwhk said:
Great to see we have such similar build~ we must be alike~ haha :p 
I was initially going for Asus Rampage Extreme II for the motherboard.. but I want a fully working hackintosh so went with UD5P.
As for the case, am thinking between HAF 932 and Antec 1200... I like the Antec 1200's looking more though. So might go with that.
Glad that you love your system, gives me lots of confident in mine.. lol.. my last build was 10 years ago when I was a junior high.. so the new technologies are a little overwhelming to me. When all the parts came, i have to learn OC again... i've only done minor CPU OC 10 years ago.. :p 


Thanks for the pic too, looks great.. and wow to the mugen... man that think is a beast~!



once you are done bro, hit me up, i will show you all my BIOS, i have a PERFECT OC going right now at 3.8, which ive been told and read maxes out fps, you can go 4+ but the performance gains for gaming are not very different

you have the d0 chip too, i have it as well, i can get SUPER low voltages + Scythe Mugen 2 = ICY temps

with room temp at like 70 degrees, i idle at 30 and full load at 52. those are some of the lowest temps with a 3.8ghz overclock, im able to do this because with the d0 stepping my voltages are SO LOW, lower than gigabyte BIOS defaulted for just running the chip at 2.66. Good airflow is key too, the antec or the haf are very very identical, just make sure you spend a lot of time with cable management, lots of cables running around limits air flow = higher temps. Also if you get the antec, go ahead and purchase 2 antec 120mm fans right at the start, the case comes with two extra fan spots, and those spots can be very key, especially with an OC.

once you get building, let me know if you have any questions, i love to help people out!
July 21, 2009 6:25:48 PM

unoeye said:
I have heard somewhere in october im not %100 certain though. And i hope the boards will come down in price for the good ones but i highly doubt that the cpu might though.

And thats a really good deal for that CPU. I dunno what i wanna do i really want to play Crysis at 1920 x 1200 im gonna try to finish off my build based on good FPS for crysis.

Very excited about getting the asus 25.5 monitor also i might wait for that to come down a bit but its still a great deal.

Im really excited about building this. If i read your op correctly its been 10 years since i built a gaming rig as well so i am nervous.

How hard was it installing the mugen?



if you want a cheap asus 25.5 monitor, you can check out newegg open box section. Its like $215.
I was nervous, but now I'm excited.. lol.. my parts hasn't arrived yet.. i'll build it over the weekend. I'll let you know how the mugen goes.
July 21, 2009 6:33:33 PM

chronicbucks said:
once you are done bro, hit me up, i will show you all my BIOS, i have a PERFECT OC going right now at 3.8, which ive been told and read maxes out fps, you can go 4+ but the performance gains for gaming are not very different

you have the d0 chip too, i have it as well, i can get SUPER low voltages + Scythe Mugen 2 = ICY temps

with room temp at like 70 degrees, i idle at 30 and full load at 52. those are some of the lowest temps with a 3.8ghz overclock, im able to do this because with the d0 stepping my voltages are SO LOW, lower than gigabyte BIOS defaulted for just running the chip at 2.66. Good airflow is key too, the antec or the haf are very very identical, just make sure you spend a lot of time with cable management, lots of cables running around limits air flow = higher temps. Also if you get the antec, go ahead and purchase 2 antec 120mm fans right at the start, the case comes with two extra fan spots, and those spots can be very key, especially with an OC.

once you get building, let me know if you have any questions, i love to help people out!


Man with those numbers, I can't wait to oc the hell out of the cores.


thanks for the headsup about the fan, save me a week from finished my build.
you have any fan suggestions? Preferably not those totally non-transparent black fans. I've seen S-Flex being suggested everywhere.
July 21, 2009 6:35:34 PM

chanwhk said:
When are Dx11 cards coming out?


End of September.
July 21, 2009 7:13:06 PM

chanwhk said:
Man with those numbers, I can't wait to oc the hell out of the cores.


thanks for the headsup about the fan, save me a week from finished my build.
you have any fan suggestions? Preferably not those totally non-transparent black fans. I've seen S-Flex being suggested everywhere.


OC it up bro, i was able to get mine to 4.0 easily, but i leveled back, after running benchmarks the numbers were not very different from 3.8 - 4.0. The 3.8 is less stress, lower temps, and just easier on the CPU, of course I can always bump it back up, i saved the BIOS settings for it.

When you get your RAM you will have to manually jack it up, it will default at 8-8-8-20 and 1088. To do this you will have too raise the multiplier to x8, and raise the RAM voltage to 1.64. It defaults at 1.5, but the RAM specs for the OCZ PLatinum show 1.64 is needed. Manually setting the timings is a piece of cake too, you will want those at 7-7-7-24. In my overclock, I was having trouble getting the ram to increase, and i needed to raise the QPI and Uncore frequency, this added 2-3 degrees of extra hear, i said screw it, and run my ram at 7-7-7-24 1088. A user will NEVER be able to tell the different in the speeds, especially with 6gb. Benchmarking is the only place that would make a difference, but performance you will never tell.

i would recommend just going with antec fans, might as well keep it all uniform, you can get either blue LED ones to match, or just fans.

I believe the 2 extra fan placements will be on the side of the case, which helps with gpu cooling, as well as overall airflow

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
that is the identical fans to all the other ones in the box.

The S-Flex fans are very nice as well, you will get one of those with your heatsink, so you can check it out, but in all reality, if this were my build, i would go with the antec, keep everything same company, it will look a bit cleaner too

if you want some bonus looks, and fan control, and budget isnt an issue, might as well get a fan controller, i got one on mine, love the looks of it, does allow me to control fan speeds and has 4 temp gauges.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
cant go wrong with that one, there is a more expensive and flashier NXZT, but the scoop on that is battery death, this unit runs entirely off the PSU, no batteries, the knobs are high end, and the readout is very readable and bright

any other questions let me know, im here to help!
July 21, 2009 8:15:52 PM

So my silly question is how do you tell if you have the 920 d0 stepping if you are looking to buy that chip?
July 21, 2009 10:04:49 PM

haha, not so silly, well, if you are going to buy it online, there a few places that guarantee d0 stepping, i will show you some links. Newegg you will not get d0

https://www.antaresdigital.com/customer/product.php?pro...

i bought mine there, they charge you 8 more for the d0 stepping, but shipping is only 5 bucks, so you get the chip+shipping for 285$. These people were great to work with, and shipment arrived in about 4 days

www.tankguys.com also sells the chip, but they are closed til July 27th, doing maintenance and changing things around

go with antares, its a guaranteed d0 stepping for 285 shipped and on your doorstep
July 21, 2009 10:13:36 PM

Yeah I will be buying online just not sure when :)  But thanks for those links they will help out alot!
July 21, 2009 10:55:45 PM

chronicbucks said:
Newegg you will not get d0
Not a 100% true!!! I got a D0 from Newegg back in May but I'm one of the lucky few who have!!! :D 
July 21, 2009 11:41:19 PM

wow, you did luck out! correction- you cannot specifically get a d0 stepping from newegg!
July 22, 2009 4:24:40 AM

Newbuilder1 said:
So my silly question is how do you tell if you have the 920 d0 stepping if you are looking to buy that chip?



When you buy the i7 920, make sure that the label on the box says "SLBEJ" besides S-spec..
July 24, 2009 8:17:04 AM

Update my list, received some items, and decided on the case.


Brain Cells: bought Received
i7 920 D0 stepping

Air Cooler: bought Received
Mugen 2

Thermal Paste: bought Received
Tuniq TX-3 Extreme Performance and Exceptional Reliability Thermal Compound

Body: bought Received
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD5 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard

Skirt:
Antec 1200.

RAM: Bought Received
OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

HD: bought Received
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB

Graphics card: bought Received
MSI ATI HD 4890 - R4890-T2D1G-OC

Sound card: bought Received
On board for now

Network: bought Received
On board for now

PSU: bought
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply

DVD Player and writer:
SAMSUNG 22X DVD±R DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223Q LightScribe Support - OEM

Monitor : bought Received
ASUS VK266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail




Just waiting on the PSU to come tomorrow. Gonna go to Chicago to buy the 1200 this weekend.

I plugged in the massive 25.5" monitor with my shitty dell laptop, and WOW, this thing is BEAutiful~!! and Massively huge.. Its a bit laggy due to the x1400 graphics card inside the laptop, but its ok generally. I even ran Warcraft III and it works fine, just a lot prettier.

The cam is ok quality, i don't web cam a lot anyway but its handy to have it on the screen instead of one of those clip on ones. The speakers is ok, but still a great plus over the laptop ones. Good for general use. I am kind of a Audiophile, but the speaker should satisfy many people.

In conclusion, I just found a new lover. I feel spoiled. :love:  :love:  :love: 




P.S. I've spent $1228 total so far. After Rebates it comes to $1027. I still have the case and DVD drive to buy, Case is $140 DVD Drive is $28. So it will be $1195... for the whole build! LESS then $1200! Saved myself $400 off budget.
July 26, 2009 2:48:35 PM

Thats cool that you managed to save money! I just got the 1200 yesterday for my boyfriends computer and its HUGE! I didnt think I would like it but I do. Looks like its going to move a lot of air nicely which is the issue that he was having with his computer.

Be sure to post pictures once you get it set up!
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