Ibm Thinkpad 600e

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Hi,

I bought the above on ebay 3 weeks ago and just received it today ( coz of
postal strike )

When i switch it on, the lcd and power lights come on and i hear the HD
starting to work away but nothing
else happens. No Sound, Blank LCD.

I emailed the seller for advice and he started talking about bios passwords,
even after i told him there is nothing
appearing on screen.

Any suggestions would be very much appreciated

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI [...] K:MEBWN:IT

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"Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
news:c69k2s$94quo$1@ID-232233.news.uni-berlin.de...
> The only thing I can suggest is to re-seat the CPU. It may have worked
loose
> in shipping. Otherwise, a new motherboad may be needed.
> HOWEVER, do make sure it is plugged in. A near dead battery will give
those
> same symptoms.
> "Mike" <nospam@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:c69a5u$7av$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > Hi,
> >
> > I bought the above on ebay 3 weeks ago and just received it today ( coz
of
> > postal strike )
> >
> > When i switch it on, the lcd and power lights come on and i hear the HD
> > starting to work away but nothing
> > else happens. No Sound, Blank LCD.
> >
> > I emailed the seller for advice and he started talking about bios
> passwords,
> > even after i told him there is nothing
> > appearing on screen.
> >
> > Any suggestions would be very much appreciated
> >
> >
>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI [...] K:MEBWN:IT
> >
> >

Thanks for the advice,

Another question though.

If the battery is dead, should i still be able to work with laptop plugged
into the mains ?

Daft question but this is my first laptop
>
>

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Mike wrote:
>
> "Bruce Markowitz" <scosgt@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
> news:c69k2s$94quo$1@ID-232233.news.uni-berlin.de...
> > The only thing I can suggest is to re-seat the CPU. It may have worked
> loose
> > in shipping. Otherwise, a new motherboad may be needed.
> > HOWEVER, do make sure it is plugged in. A near dead battery will give
> those
> > same symptoms.
> > "Mike" <nospam@nospam.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:c69a5u$7av$1@news5.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I bought the above on ebay 3 weeks ago and just received it today ( coz
> of
> > > postal strike )
> > >
> > > When i switch it on, the lcd and power lights come on and i hear the HD
> > > starting to work away but nothing
> > > else happens. No Sound, Blank LCD.
> > >
> > > I emailed the seller for advice and he started talking about bios
> > passwords,
> > > even after i told him there is nothing
> > > appearing on screen.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions would be very much appreciated
> > >
> > >
> >
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI [...] K:MEBWN:IT

What about getting your money back, because according to the item description it
doesnt work. Was there any sign of damage to the box? I'd ask for a refund.

TJ
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E Brown wrote:

> On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:33:05 +0100, "Mike" <nospam@nospam.co.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>When i switch it on, the lcd and power lights come on and i hear the HD
>>starting to work away but nothing
>>else happens. No Sound, Blank LCD.
>>
>
> To boot you need power, cpu, drive, lcd. Sounds like you've got
> power (no need for your battery to work), you hear the drive spin up,
> so either your display isn't working or the CPU isn't seated (which
> means, btw, the machine's been opened - they don't just work loose).
> You can attach an external CRT to confirm it's not the screen, and
> use a boot floppy to confirm it's not the hard drive. Then it's time
> to check the cpu - bit more work, which is why you should eliminate
> the other possibilities first.
> Is there a POST beep?
> Emanuel

Most laptops (if not all) don't POST beep.

Cosmin

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E Brown wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Apr 2004 07:44:18 GMT, "Cosmin N." <no@email.com> wrote:
>
>>Most laptops (if not all) don't POST beep.
>
>
> Whoa! The new Thinkpads don't beep?
> Emanuel

See, that's why I said MOST laptops. I've seen many more Compaqs than
IBMs (I can source Compaq Armadas and Evos much cheaper than Thinkpads),
and none of them POST beep, but I'm not sure about IBMs.

Cosmin

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"Capt. Wild Bill Kelso, USAAC" <Dec7.1941@cableaz.com> wrote in message
news:40894FE9.51A78D8B@cableaz.com...
> "Cosmin N." wrote:
> >
> > E Brown wrote:
> >
> > > On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 21:33:05 +0100, "Mike" <nospam@nospam.co.uk>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>When i switch it on, the lcd and power lights come on and i hear the
HD
> > >>starting to work away but nothing
> > >>else happens. No Sound, Blank LCD.
> > >>
> > >
> > > To boot you need power, cpu, drive, lcd. Sounds like you've got
> > > power (no need for your battery to work), you hear the drive spin up,
> > > so either your display isn't working or the CPU isn't seated (which
> > > means, btw, the machine's been opened - they don't just work loose).
> > > You can attach an external CRT to confirm it's not the screen,
and
> > > use a boot floppy to confirm it's not the hard drive. Then it's time
> > > to check the cpu - bit more work, which is why you should eliminate
> > > the other possibilities first.
> > > Is there a POST beep?
> > > Emanuel
> >
> > Most laptops (if not all) don't POST beep.
> >
> > Cosmin
>
> Bzzzzzzzz, nope, I'm sorry, that's not correct. We have some lovely
parting
> gifts for you. Johnny, tell 'im what 'es won...
>
> Nothing!!
>
> Most, if not ALL, IBM laptops POST beep. The model specified in the post
> (600E)does POST beep.
>
> TJ
> -------------------------------------------------------
> The beatings will continue until morale improves.




Thanks for all the replies,

After charging battery last night i can now boot up ok
I ran all the bios test and everything is ok

The only problem now is when using laptop for any length of time
The screen screws up and mouse pointer goes out of control
Think it may be HD or CPU or Battery being loose
will try to take appart and put together again.

Any other ideas appart from that
Thanks a lot

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> Capt. Wild Bill Kelso, USAAC wrote:
> > Bzzzzzzzz, nope, I'm sorry, that's not correct. We have some
> > lovely parting gifts for you. Johnny, tell 'im what 'es won...
> >
> > Nothing!!
> >
> > Most, if not ALL, IBM laptops POST beep. The model
> > specified in the post (600E)does POST beep.

Cosmin N. wrote:
> I see it really makes you feel good being rude. I wrote in another
> post that my experience is somewhat limited to Compaq
> notebooks, and they do not POST beep, and besides, I did say
> "most" laptops, not all laptops.
>
> Enjoy making a lot of friends with your attitude.

Plus, ThinkPads don't *always* POST beep. The hardware volume control
(Fn+PgUp/PgDn on a 600) affects the POST beep along with all other sounds.
If this control is turned all the way down (muted) the ThinkPad will boot
silently.

-Mike

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Michael Geary wrote:
>
> > Capt. Wild Bill Kelso, USAAC wrote:
> > > Bzzzzzzzz, nope, I'm sorry, that's not correct. We have some
> > > lovely parting gifts for you. Johnny, tell 'im what 'es won...
> > >
> > > Nothing!!
> > >
> > > Most, if not ALL, IBM laptops POST beep. The model
> > > specified in the post (600E)does POST beep.
>
> Cosmin N. wrote:
> > I see it really makes you feel good being rude. I wrote in another
> > post that my experience is somewhat limited to Compaq
> > notebooks, and they do not POST beep, and besides, I did say
> > "most" laptops, not all laptops.
> >
> > Enjoy making a lot of friends with your attitude.
>
> Plus, ThinkPads don't *always* POST beep. The hardware volume control
> (Fn+PgUp/PgDn on a 600) affects the POST beep along with all other sounds.
> If this control is turned all the way down (muted) the ThinkPad will boot
> silently.
>
> -Mike

Mike, does a 600E POST beep, yes or no?


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Cosmin N. <no@email.com> wrote:
> Capt. Wild Bill Kelso, USAAC wrote:
> >>Most laptops (if not all) don't POST beep.
> > Bzzzzzzzz, nope, I'm sorry, that's not correct. We have some lovely parting
> > gifts for you. Johnny, tell 'im what 'es won...
> >
> > Nothing!!
> >
> > Most, if not ALL, IBM laptops POST beep. The model specified in the post
> > (600E)does POST beep.
> >

> I see it really makes you feel good being rude. I wrote in another post

What? !! He's not being rude, he's being funny. You know - good
humoured. Where and how do you see rude?

> that my experience is somewhat limited to Compaq notebooks, and they do
> not POST beep, and besides, I did say "most" laptops, not all laptops.

> Enjoy making a lot of friends with your attitude.

Good grief .. what a pain. Amazing!

Peter

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> > > Michael Geary wrote:
> > > > Plus, ThinkPads don't *always* POST beep. The hardware
> > > > volume control (Fn+PgUp/PgDn on a 600) affects the POST
> > > > beep along with all other sounds. If this control is turned
> > > > all the way down (muted) the ThinkPad will boot silently.

> > Capt. Wild Bill Kelso, USAAC wrote:
> > > Mike, does a 600E POST beep, yes or no?

> Michael Geary wrote:
> > It does if the hardware volume control is turned up. It doesn't
> > if the hardware volume control is turned all the way down
> > (muted). Same thing with the resume-from-standby beep.

Capt. Wild Bill Kelso, USAAC wrote:
> the answer is yes, it does beep. yeah, yeah, if it's not muted. It's
> built to POST beep.

Isn't that what I just said, twice? The 600E does POST beep if the sound is
not muted. It doesn't POST beep if the sound is muted with the hardware
volume control.

The point is that absence of a POST beep does not necessarily indicate a
hardware problem. It could merely mean that the sound is muted--and you have
no way of knowing which by looking at the machine.

Of course, all of this is irrelevant to the OP's situation, since the other
symptoms made it clear there was a hardware problem.

-Mike

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On Sat, 24 Apr 2004 20:40:33 -0400, "bobchang"
<totallyincorrect@yahoo.com> wrote:

>"And next time, buy your laptop from a more reliable source than ebay. "
>
>Don't go there, now... There are plenty of good vendors on eBay...
>
Heck, IBM sells direct on eBay.
Emanuel