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Mubarak Steps Down as Egyptian President

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February 11, 2011 2:43:47 PM

Around 40 minutes ago Hosni Mubarak stepped down as Egypt's president. The military's high council will run the country in the interim. It's incredible watching the coverage of the people celebrating in the streets of Cairo and Alexandria. I'm very impressed with this "revolt" in the sense that it was non-violent for the most part and the military did not step in and quash it.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/02/11/egypt.protes...
February 11, 2011 2:56:59 PM

So the man that ran the Egyptian Air Force in the1970's handed power over to the military. Thats freedom?
February 11, 2011 3:07:51 PM

It seems to me that the people respect the military a lot and seem rather happy that the military is taking over in the interim.
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February 11, 2011 3:24:51 PM

Looks like Woodstock at Tutankhamun farm.
February 11, 2011 4:14:52 PM

This is not going to end well. Watch for the 2nd revolution. That's the one to pay attention to.
February 11, 2011 4:32:22 PM

It could end well. For it to though, the military has to support a degree of democracy and diversity in regard to parties with different ideals. Will that happen? I won't say that it will not, but things will have to go better than smooth. I guess we'll see in the coming weeks if a date is set for elections and whether or not they allow for the formation of various political parties from a legal standpoint.
February 11, 2011 4:35:36 PM

The Muslim Brotherhood wants power, and if they don't get it things will turn violent. They want a caliphate which is not compatible with democracy in any form.

I forgot to mention, the leftists/socialists/communists/anarchists also want power. They have already lost once before in Egypt. When they don't get it things will turn violent as well. Just wait until this spreads to Jordan, Yemen, Libya, Algeria, the list goes on. You Europeans would do well to be prepared. Hop skip and a jump across the straits and they are into Spain.
February 11, 2011 9:10:06 PM

Egypt may have some civilian/military provisional govt for a while but then so did the Russians after their overthrow of the Czar in 1917. The Kerensky govt could not hold on to power and was forced out by the Reds,who then fought a civil war with the Whites. The MB is very organized and has been around for all most 100 yrs. My money is on them. I think also their younger members are more willing to bleed for the MB than the college students and family type protesters are for some type of fuzzy democracy idea.
February 12, 2011 6:34:06 PM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
The Muslim Brotherhood wants power, and if they don't get it things will turn violent. They want a caliphate which is not compatible with democracy in any form.

I forgot to mention, the leftists/socialists/communists/anarchists also want power. They have already lost once before in Egypt. When they don't get it things will turn violent as well. Just wait until this spreads to Jordan, Yemen, Libya, Algeria, the list goes on. You Europeans would do well to be prepared. Hop skip and a jump across the straits and they are into Spain.


You sound like Glen Beck and he is clearly crazy.
You see a peaceful demonstration leading to the fall of a dictator as a threat.
I only hope more of this happens around the world.
Wherever there is a free press to document these demonstrations, the will of the people will be indomitable.

Leave it to a right wing head case to find this threatening.
My congratulations to all the proud people of Egypt for striving for what we in the US take for granted.
February 12, 2011 8:53:32 PM

I don't think that the Muslim Brotherhood is as bad as they once were, as they have become a lot more centrist. Then again, it could be a PR ploy of sorts so they have an in road to power. I guess everything remains to be seen over the coming months.
February 12, 2011 9:34:19 PM

buwish said:
I don't think that the Muslim Brotherhood is as bad as they once were, as they have become a lot more centrist. Then again, it could be a PR ploy of sorts so they have an in road to power. I guess everything remains to be seen over the coming months.


We have Muslim all over the United States and they don't seem focused on Jihad. The US conservative right has attempted to portray all of Islam as evil and all Muslims as potentially dangerous.
I saw no demonstrator violence at this protest, except on the side of the President's thugs.

We are better off without "partners" like this. We have sullied ourselves participating in ugly practices like torture and "rendition". We backed Politicians out of self interest rather than our stated goal of global democracy.

I feel embarrassed when I see foolish comments like the ones posted earlier. As long as some of us are not free, then there is something wrong in this world. We should support our brothers when they struggle for the freedom we so often claim to believe in.
February 13, 2011 2:11:20 PM

iggybeans said:
We have Muslim all over the United States and they don't seem focused on Jihad. The US conservative right has attempted to portray all of Islam as evil and all Muslims as potentially dangerous.
I saw no demonstrator violence at this protest, except on the side of the President's thugs.

We are better off without "partners" like this. We have sullied ourselves participating in ugly practices like torture and "rendition". We backed Politicians out of self interest rather than our stated goal of global democracy.

I feel embarrassed when I see foolish comments like the ones posted earlier. As long as some of us are not free, then there is something wrong in this world. We should support our brothers when they struggle for the freedom we so often claim to believe in.



Just remember, the protests in Iran, 1979, began as a "peaceful demonstration" by students. One month later the ayatollah steps off the plane. I may sound like Glenn Beck, but that is only because he inspired me to do my homework.

You, clearly, have not done yours.
February 14, 2011 1:16:42 PM

Yeah iggy, i'm clearly crazy. Oh and another thing; hundreds of people were killed during your "peaceful" democratic loving protests. Wake up!

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704657104...

The military is now in charge. They have suspended the constitution and dissolved the parliament. Sounds like a peace loving democracy to me, sure.

Didn't emperor Palpatine do the same thing in Star Wars? Oh, well it must be good idea then, right iggy?
February 14, 2011 9:29:26 PM

Unfortunately, for any form of revolution to occur, people die, peaceful or overtly violent. I wish it was so in the case of Egypt, as the protests were for the most part very peaceful, not to mention well organized. However, if things go well in the coming months for Egypt to get on track for at least a degree of democracy, I believe that those who perished did not perish in vain.
February 15, 2011 11:58:44 AM

Mubarak won't be getting mummified and buried in one of those pyramids now ... he has blown it big time.

He shouldn't have stopped the sacrifices to Ra.

They were on top of the world a couple of thousand years back.

Look what "progress" did for them ...

/completely loony post

February 15, 2011 12:15:08 PM

"except on the side of the President's thugs. " Allegedly the presidents thugs...

but in regards to the whole post, good for Egypt! I hope this turns out well for them. The muslim Brotherhood, I have heard several interviews on NPR with them and they sound like they have reformed. They want a piece of the gov't just like everyone else. Thats the problem over there, religion and gov't dont mix. Im not saying either is bad but beliefs and laws need to be seperate!
February 15, 2011 5:32:46 PM

Can't I'm at work and I dont want to be labeled a terrorist by the IT dept. lol
February 15, 2011 5:37:52 PM

Yeah, my work uses websense. That sight is blocked as "militant extremist". The headlines yesterday read, and I'm paraphrasing, "We will sweep through and change the face of the Middle East".
April 9, 2011 3:01:40 AM

The heat never died. It just wasn't reported in the "western" media.
April 10, 2011 1:40:26 AM

True. Very typical of the news cycle: once the prize has been obtained, the media tends to move onto the next story.

There's an idea for a new network. Create a network that follows up on the major stories for a few weeks (at least) after the fact.
April 13, 2011 1:26:04 AM

While I'm not surprised, it is a shame that the military is taking such a drastic, ugly stand on the matter. Ideally, I'd leave all laws as is until a new government can be elected and sworn in- don't set a authoritarian precedent like this beforehand.

On a side note, I hear that Mubarak is in the hospital. Poor guy- he lost his power and now his health is failing (I'm being sarcastic). Believe it or not, I hope he pulls through so he can be made to account for his crimes over the past 30 years.

http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/africa/04/12/egypt.mubara...
April 14, 2011 12:48:59 PM

I am all for these dictatorships being swept aside for a democratic led country but the transition process is awful in terms of loss of human life and suffering.

I just can't stomach some of the stories guys ...

I also agree the media sensationalises so much in these articles it is hard to get a clear picture.

On a final note i would like to encourage our Muslim users who know more about what is going on to post and give us more of their points of view.

As always we respect diversity here ... I drink turkish coffee ... just one cup mind you ... or I can't sleep ... :) 
April 15, 2011 7:20:47 PM

It sounds like to me that he had a heart attack or some kind of break down due to the grilling he was getting by the interrogators. He seems to be doing better health wise though. However, if he is convicted of ordering protesters killed, he may face execution or the rest of his life in prison.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/314263/after-3-decades-po...
April 28, 2011 2:13:54 PM

If thats what the people want......

But I think that fearmongering may be a better word for those two articles (second being the larger offender)

It even says that only a small minority want fundamentalist orthodoxy in the state.

I think this is more of a complicated issue than "This poll tell us *** has hit the fan and we all gonna die"

Anyone really savvy with Egypt and can interpret the results?
April 29, 2011 12:00:50 PM

Yeah Old man ... you read far too much rubbish from the white supremacist redneck alfoil hat brigade.

These whackjobs are just as loony as the Jihadists.

/puts on a Barbara Streisand song and turns up the volume.

"Next time it will be Neil Diamond buddy" !!

:) 
April 29, 2011 12:30:43 PM

Reynod said:
Yeah Old man ... you read far too much rubbish from the white supremacist redneck alfoil hat brigade.

These whackjobs are just as loony as the Jihadists.

/puts on a Barbara Streisand song and turns up the volume.

"Next time it will be Neil Diamond buddy" !!

:) 



Oh god noooooooooo!
April 29, 2011 1:17:13 PM

Oldmangamer_73 said:
Oh boy! Here we go.

New poll shows most Egyptians want laws based on the Quran, religious parties in government


The same thing happened in Iraq and Afghanistan. The people voted for democracy as long as the laws did not conflict with the Quran and Shariah. And given the slightest chance, the hard core Islamists have demonstrated that they are willing to kill anyone who disagrees with them.

iggy, all the good thoughts in the world are not going to change that.

I am one of those conservatives who believes that Islam is incompatible with our Constitution and I really would like to restrict Muslim immigration to the U. S.

You want a look at what Muslim immigration will lead to? Google "malmo, sweden muslimn".
April 29, 2011 1:24:07 PM

Kind of like all the fundamentalists that tell people we are a Christian nation. Same thing here they are just telling the world we are a Muslim nation. And there should be nothing wrong with that.

Its not like the Westboro Baptist Church speaks for America just because he's American.
April 29, 2011 1:30:45 PM

mingo, 88% of the population in the USA consider themselves Christian. So yes, we are a Christian nation. The only difference here is, we don't behead you if you're not a Christian.
April 29, 2011 1:45:01 PM

heh heh ...

Sorry if I offended you though.
April 29, 2011 2:08:41 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism#United...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8593975.stm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_(USA)

Yeah Christians in the US just behead you if...... You're black(Remember the KKK?) you have abortions or give abortions, if you're gay. Yep they seem almost as tolerant as Muslims oh yeah don't forget picketing dead soldiers funerals.

According to Wikipedia 60-75% of the US is Christian. And the point I was making was that America wasn't founded as a Christian Nation, it explicitly says that in the constitution. Besides I'm pretty sure the bible tolerates and in fact promotes murder, rape, slavery. But lets just cherry pick our info here and not be so open minded.

http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm - Crime rates in the US and remember that not just the "12%" of non-Christians. lets see if 10,639,369 crimes(Rape, murder, theft, etc) were committed in 2010 that means ~8511495 were committed by Christians. So i guess us being a mainly Christian nation has really saved us from those savages in the middle East......Now if we can only save ourselves.

But we can overlook that because they are Americans.
April 29, 2011 2:09:58 PM

BTW old man your Pic isnt working on my computer.
April 29, 2011 2:42:35 PM

Hey man, i'm in no way trying to defend Christianity. I was merely challenging your statement that we are not a Christian nation. I think those are very isolated incidents; and has anything happened lately? I really dont' know. If so, you'd think it'd be all over the news.

The US was founded as a Christian nation. Here is an excerpt from George Washington's first innaugural address.

"Such being the impressions under which I have, in obedience to the public summons, repaired to the present station, it would be peculiarly improper to omit in this first official act my fervent supplications to that Almighty Being who rules over the universe, who presides in the councils of nations, and whose providential aids can supply every human defect, that His benediction may consecrate to the liberties and happiness of the people of the United States a Government instituted by themselves for these essential purposes, and may enable every instrument employed in its administration to execute with success the functions allotted to his charge. In tendering this homage to the Great Author of every public and private good, I assure myself that it expresses your sentiments not less than my own, nor those of my fellow-citizens at large less than either. No people can be bound to acknowledge and adore the Invisible Hand which conducts the affairs of men more than those of the United States. Every step by which they have advanced to the character of an independent nation seems to have been distinguished by some token of providential agency; and in the important revolution just accomplished in the system of their united government the tranquil deliberations and voluntary consent of so many distinct communities from which the event has resulted can not be compared with the means by which most governments have been established without some return of pious gratitude, along with an humble anticipation of the future blessings which the past seem to presage. These reflections, arising out of the present crisis, have forced themselves too strongly on my mind to be suppressed. You will join with me, I trust, in thinking that there are none under the influence of which the proceedings of a new and free government can more auspiciously commence."

I submitted a new Picard pic. Yet to be approved.
April 29, 2011 3:04:48 PM

No but you did make it sounds like Muslims will kill you if you're a Christian. And thats irresponsible.

Anyone will kill anyone for Any reason. Period. And it pisses me off when we paint people as something they are not.
April 29, 2011 4:49:24 PM

Well I think we can agree then no religion is better than any religion. United Atheist Alliance UNITE!!!

So to counter radicalism we bomb the shite out of their mudbrick homes. Makes perfect American sense. And if you order another war in the middle east in the next 10 months, WE WILL GIVE YOU A POPULIST UPRISING FREEEEEEE! *Shamwow guy exits and punches a hooker*

Just 10 year 3 billion $ daily payments. YAY we are totally helping stop the war on terror YAY. Dont you love the rational "A tiny fraction of the people who believe in your religion are violent and dangerous so us Americans are going to bomb your sorry excuse for a country into the stone age". Problem solved. Oh and lets cut taxes while we are at it. And get thatKenyan out of the white house because he is the worst thing to ever happen to America, At least palin tells it like it is...............Get'R Done. Am i right? Am i right? Damn straight I am I am American.

Hmm maybe we should be keeping a closer eye on Reynod since he lives in a place where all minorities are keeping with their extreme religious ideals http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/04/27/3201746.h...

We are so phucked. *Sigh*
April 30, 2011 1:20:22 AM

It is a frustrating world to say the least. But debate like this is what gives it hope to maybe improve one day.
September 12, 2011 3:54:45 PM

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