$599 gaming computer

[mongii]

alright alright. to make things clear. this is what i came up with. so what you were saying with graphic cards. might you make a suggestion that's cheap and better and compatible with this pc.

mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131288

cpu + fan
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.207712

RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145175

Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148261

CD drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136144

monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254005

mouse + keybourd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109176

OS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116378

there. that's what im put up. it does not have a video card yet so make a suggestion.

does this parts compatible with each other and the os? please answer this inquiry.

this does not have a case and psu yet but im good with that. don't need help in that section anymore. got alot of new knowledge about them through the earlier posts. just need help on the video card. video card that is similar to the power of the 4670.

 

[Proximon]

That's a big NO on the PSU The PSU is a vital part of any build and not a place to cut corners.

As to the rest of your build, I will need more info. Pretty sure we can do better.

Just see the sticky on the top of the forum about asking for new build advice, and be sure to include your budget and what you want to be able to do with the computer.

 

[captaincharisma]

yea i think you will need at least a 600W PSU with that configuration.

 

[mongii]

lol. somebody help. )

 

[shortstuff_mt]

If you follow Proximon's advice and edit your post to include the information in the "How to ask for new build advice" sticky you'll get a lot more help.

 

[hunter315]

Cant help to much until you give us more information. Use the format shown here please as it will tell us what we need to know.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advice

 

[mongii]

hope i got the right format this time

 

[xc0mmiex]

you got a monitor? what resolution?

 

[Onus]

There's no PSU listed.
The 9400GT isn't a gaming card unless you play only really old games. What do you want to play? Does your budget need to include the monitor (looks like it does)?

 

[mongii]

There's no PSU listed.
The 9400GT isn't a gaming card unless you play only really old games. What do you want to play? Does your budget need to include the monitor (looks like it does)?

yeah. i don't know how many watts i need.

it isn't? do you have any suggestions that fits the budget. I like to play games like TFT, NBA 2k9, Oblivion, CSS and some mmos if there's a good one that comes out.
I just want those games to run smoothly and nicely not really over doing it or something. anyway any suggestions?

yeah. i forgot to put the moniter. i picked one from newegg.

 

[Proximon]

A full build for under 600 bucks is hard

I think you got a good start there with those parts, but you can make a few changes.


CPU and board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.211194
That will get you a bit more up front for just a samll price increase - 128

GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161252
This 4670 will be for more powerful -70

Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231203
Start with 2GB and add a second module later -22

Case and PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.213672
Quality PSU and case -95

HD and OS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.205082.22-136-074
-155
You did not specify if you already have XP. So I included this OS.

DVD burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136167

Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254032

I think that pretty much covers it.

 

[mongii]

A full build for under 600 bucks is hard

I think you got a good start there with those parts, but you can make a few changes.


CPU and board:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.211194
That will get you a bit more up front for just a samll price increase - 128

GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161252
This 4670 will be for more powerful -70

Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231203
Start with 2GB and add a second module later -22

Case and PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.213672
Quality PSU and case -95

HD and OS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.205082.22-136-074
-155
You did not specify if you already have XP. So I included this OS.

DVD burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136167

Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254032

I think that pretty much covers it.

Thanks man. I'll look in to this.
i want it to run in XP though.

Microsoft Windows XP Home SP3 for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116511

is this good? how do you know if its 64 bit or 32?

 

[Onus]

That's a pretty good build. I think Staples may have a similar Hanns-G monitor (but with no speakers) for a similar price. If you buy there, you avoid shipping charges and can probably return it if there are even a few dead pixels.
I play Guild Wars (a MMORPG) occasionally on my secondary PC that has a 4760 in it, and it runs fine even up to 1680x1050; that system is CPU-limited by its AMD 4850e.

 

[captaincharisma]

There is no 64-bit version of XP Home. if your going 64-bit your better off with Vista because its supported more. why so you not want Vista? Vista has no problems on an old pc and is just as stable and fast as XP? did you actually try vista or are you just going on what people are saying about it?

here is a link to64-bit XP

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116378

and the 64-bit version of XP does not have a service pack 3. not like it matters.

 

[mongii]

There is no 64-bit version of XP Home. if your going 64-bit your better off with Vista because its supported more. why so you not want Vista? Vista has no problems on an old pc and is just as stable and fast as XP? did you actually try vista or are you just going on what people are saying about it?

here is a link to64-bit XP

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116378

and the 64-bit version of XP does not have a service pack 3. not like it matters.

Hey! thanks for the info. I just want to use xp because im more used to it and im more familiar on tweaking it than vista.
how do you knwo if a hardware is not supported by xp?
and what's the diff between 64 bit and 32 bit?

this is my finsihed rig. im gonna order this tomorrow. i just need some comments on you guys if this is good or not.

Mobo, Case and PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.204533

CPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115037

Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814161252

Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145175

Mouse and Keybourd
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823109176

Hard Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148261

CD Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136144

Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254005

OS 64 bit xp or vista. i haven't decided yet because yo said vista good too. but im not used to using it. but my laptop right now is vista though.

are these parts compatible with 64 bit xp?
and are these parts ocmpatible with each other?

hope somebody can help. thanks alot!

 

[Proximon]

You really need to get a decent PSU. Far more important than spending an extra 100 bucks on a processor.

 

[mongii]

You really need to get a decent PSU. Far more important than spending an extra 100 bucks on a processor.

about how many watts?

what processor could i downgrade to so i could buy a better PSU. can you make a suggestion please. thanks

 

[rockyjohn]

400-450 watts with a basic card and to allow limited upgrade in future.

The E7400 works and will save you about $50 over the 8400.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115206

If you can afford another $20 the E7500 would be better.

 

[ill b ben]

Its not so much about the wattage, its the brand that makes de difference. Low quallity psu put most of there power rating on the 5v rail, whilest you want it to be on the 14 rail. In simple terms. Cheap psu's get high watt ratings 400-600 wich cost little but cant actually come up with that wattage. So try to go for brands like Antec,Corsair. Antec earthwatts have some good ''cheap'' psu's

 

[ill b ben]

that should b a 12v rail not 14.. silly me

 

[Proximon]

It's not about watts so much as quality. A PSU is a very complicated device that does far more than you imagine. A bad one can damage your new parts, or cause instabilities that are very hard to diagnose.

You could save 15 bucks going this route:
OCZ 500W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341012

Rorewill cheap case with free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147073

However, 15 bucks won't get you much in an upgrade in other places, so in my opinion it's better to go with the case/PSU combo I listed. That gets you a much better case that will last a while and keep everything cool.

 

[mongii]

alright. ill look in to what you guys said.

but the other parts are okay, right? they are compatible with each other and with xp 64 bit?

 

[bashy]

This might interest you: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883113094

Again, you'd have to buy a PSU (the PSU that comes with it sucks) and a Graphics Card (the onboard one won't cut it) but you'd get more for the buck. I really recommend Vista... Soon people will be using Windows 7 RC and you don't want to be left behind with XP.

 

[mongii]

how about this one? its got 2 12v's but 380W. would this power the system. reviews say its good.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371005

 

[mongii]

can you edit vista to make it look like xp? i really hate how vista looks