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July 12, 2009 11:54:31 PM

Hello everyone,

This is part two of my post Building a system, stuck on deciding on motherboard etc-- http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/page-267870_31_50.htm... I am making a new thread so I can finalize my computer build. If I am repeating here, I do apologize. This will help me finalize my thoughts. Thank you all who have been answering in my thread before. Please, post your recommendations again here as well. I am hoping to finalize my decision by tonight.

I am building an Intel Core i7 920 computer for music production and not gaming. Software I use is FL Studio and Protools as well as plugging in instruments to the computer for recording. I need a computer system that won't bogg down when I have all these softwares and plug-ins open. I already bought some parts and I am looking to spend $500 more, but no more than $600 more.

Once again, I am not a gamer, but when it comes to overclocking, I might do a small overclock, but I will not be overclocking like most gamers do. Any recommendations for a good thermal paste?

Ok, please click this link to see what I own so far http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

Here are the parts I am going with so far http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

I still need a Motherboard, Sound card, Memory & Heat sink. Here are category links to all the parts I have been recommended and researched. Please choose what you think is the best and I will pick the one with the most votes.

Video card, I own the VisionTek 4350 ATI Radeon, I think I am going to stay with this.

Sound card List http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

Memory List http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

Video Card List http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

Motherboard List http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...

HeatSinks & Coolers List http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx...


Thank you all again for your help and assistance.

Jeff

July 13, 2009 12:18:06 AM

sound card isn't needed at all
for the memory get the ocz platinum 6gb(for i7 processors you have to get either 3gb or 6gb or 9 or 12,..... so that they run in triple channel )
for the video card the 4350 will be ok unless you are gaming
for the motherboard get the the asus p6t(the first one in the wishing list)
as for the OS vista isn't the way to go windows seven will be released on 22nd October so don't get vista just download the free version of windows 7 for now
July 13, 2009 7:05:45 AM

Thank you very much for your reply. So far I am leaning for the OCZ Gold and the Asus p6t Deluxe, but here are some combo deals I am considering. Please let me know which one you think I should go for as well as anyone else.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

I am getting the same advice to not go with Vista. So, I probably will download the Win 7 RC. I will still think about it. Quick question about the Win 7 real version features comparison. When they say this: Recover your data easily with automatic backup to your home and business network. Does this mean that home premium doesn't have any back up capabilities?

What do they mean by this: Run many existing Windows XP productivity applications in Windows XP Mode. 2. Does this mean, backwards compatibility? Can you use xp programs in Home Premium?



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July 13, 2009 1:28:11 PM

well if you are going to sli or CF in the future then the ocz and the deluxe V2 is the way to go as there is a wide space between the first and second slots and i don't think you are going to CF in the future as it isn't a gaming machine so the ocz and the Asus p6t in the 3rd combo is the way to go,the windows 7 home premium contains backup but you can't restore the files to the network(a network is consisted of computers connected together).the second question,it means that if a program that runs on xp and cann't run on windows 7 you will be able to run it in the xp mode,anyway IMo it won't be that useful
July 13, 2009 4:19:20 PM

computersss said:
well if you are going to sli or CF in the future then the ocz and the deluxe V2 is the way to go as there is a wide space between the first and second slots and i don't think you are going to CF in the future as it isn't a gaming machine so the ocz and the Asus p6t in the 3rd combo is the way to go,the windows 7 home premium contains backup but you can't restore the files to the network(a network is consisted of computers connected together).the second question,it means that if a program that runs on xp and cann't run on windows 7 you will be able to run it in the xp mode,anyway IMo it won't be that useful


Thank you again for your help. Yeah, since I am not a gamer, I don't think I will be using CF or SLI.

Like you said in your earlier reply and I have been recommended because of the lower CAS to go with the Platinum OCZ, which means I will be posting a new bunch of combo deals for that memory in a bit.

I am not sure if you would recommend that Asus motherboard again for the platinum series. The only problem I see with that mother board, unless I am wrong, is that the memory standard is Memory Standard DDR3 2000 (O.C) / 1866 (O.C) / 1333 . I don't see compatiblity with the 1600

You definitely think I will be ok without that XP compatibilty mode? If so, I will go for Home premium.

a b V Motherboard
July 13, 2009 4:32:55 PM

I agree with computersss ..... And dont get Vista ..you might end up like me with the" Vista Home Crash Edition" syndrome. Just dl Win 7 and you will be fine.
July 13, 2009 4:49:45 PM

Ok. Here are the new combo deals with the OCZ Platinum Series. If there are other memories with a low CAS you would like to recommend please do.


http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... so far I am thinking about this one.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
This one is a possible second.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Some of you might of been recommending this motherboard with this type of memory, but The only problem I see with that mother board, unless I am wrong, is that the memory standard is Memory Standard DDR3 2000 (O.C) / 1866 (O.C) / 1333 . I don't see compatiblity with the 1600

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
a b V Motherboard
July 13, 2009 4:59:22 PM

You will be fine with the first combo. It will be too fast for you anyway 8) ... You wont be able to keep up with your cpu...
a b V Motherboard
July 13, 2009 6:08:36 PM

Yes Sir... that mobo and ram = butter......Warning : Your new rig will be stupid fast and we are not responsable for broken hardware once you start jumping up and down because you cant believe what you see. Remember to fasten your seat-belt before take-off.
July 13, 2009 7:31:24 PM

OvrClkr said:
Yes Sir... that mobo and ram = butter......Warning : Your new rig will be stupid fast and we are not responsable for broken hardware once you start jumping up and down because you cant believe what you see. Remember to fasten your seat-belt before take-off.


Thank you very much. I am about ready to take off.
a b V Motherboard
July 13, 2009 7:35:20 PM

You are very welcome. And remember to feel free to ask ANYTHING......
July 13, 2009 8:43:48 PM

both are excellent but my vote goes for the asus one,i would go for the asus because IMO they are the best and they have an excellent customer support.IMO it is all a matter of preference because both are excellent
a b V Motherboard
July 13, 2009 8:44:15 PM

IMO the Asus is superior but it has a higher DOA rate. They are both very good boards.

I would go with the Asus P6T deluxe combo and make sure Fed-Ex ships it. You should be fine. IMO the Asus is a better board overall....



July 13, 2009 9:05:45 PM

Thank you guys. My first motherboard was a Asus A8NE, overall I didn't have any problems, but the only thing is that it lasted for 3.5 years until my first problem and that is why I am building a new computer right now. My board fan died and some of the on board ports are not working properly.

I kind of wanted to try something different this time around and I am getting about equal votes for both motherboards, but Asus is a little bit in front.

I know you guys said Asus, do I take a risk and go for the Gigabyte or you are still staying with the Asus Deluxe

a b V Motherboard
July 13, 2009 9:14:31 PM

If you go with the Gigabyte you are not taking any risk whatsoever. It is a fantastic board. I just lean towards the ASUS because I read alot and it seems to be a favorite for the price.
a b V Motherboard
July 13, 2009 9:57:40 PM

rocknje said:
How do you like your board? The reason why it is not on my list is because it only has one PCI Slot.

Classified is too expensive and I don't need those feautres.


IMO my board is more than enough for my gaming needs. it is not the best x58 for Sli but it has all the features i need. It is stable as a rock and easy to tinker with....
July 13, 2009 10:02:12 PM

OvrClkr said:
IMO my board is more than enough for my gaming needs. it is not the best x58 for Sli but it has all the features i need. It is stable as a rock and easy to tinker with....


Cool. Would you recommend it for my needs or stick with either the Asus or Gigabyte?
a b V Motherboard
July 13, 2009 10:07:59 PM

If all you will do is game, then it should be more than enough. I just like the fact that is a well made board and it has no negative reviews other than the Sli issue.

But if you plan on Sli x16/x16 then the Asus is a better option.
July 13, 2009 10:49:54 PM

OvrClkr said:
If all you will do is game, then it should be more than enough. I just like the fact that is a well made board and it has no negative reviews other than the Sli issue.

But if you plan on Sli x16/x16 then the Asus is a better option.


No Games or I don't think I will be using SLI or CF
a b V Motherboard
July 13, 2009 10:56:15 PM

If you wont be using SLi and prefer to get a high end card, then the x58 LE is more than enough. The thing I like the most is that it is a stable board and I have not had 1 issue. And on top of that it is ALL black..No weird colors....
a b V Motherboard
July 14, 2009 4:25:38 AM

Why are you looking at the x58 boards? They are more expensive because they have multiple PCIe slots specifically for SLI or Crossfire. Is there some other reason I am missing? If not you can get boards that are much less expensive that still should do everything you want.

You said at the top that you did not think you needed either since you won't be gaming - which makes sense - but it appears all you have looked at are x58 boards.

I have not followed Core i7 too much - are there not single slot i7 boards?

[Edit: To answer my own question, I checked at newegg and all the i7 boards they had were x58 and a scan seemed to indicate that all had a minimum of 2 PCIe x16 slots. I am surprised there are not any with only one slot for people that want primarily the faster processor and are not interested in gaming much. I know the basic config provides the PCIe pipelines but I am surprised some did not leave them fallow or allocate more to x8 or x4 slots for other uses or to cut cost.]
a b V Motherboard
July 14, 2009 4:35:42 AM

ummm.... we are suggesting different X58 motherboards because he is planning on buying an i7 920.
July 14, 2009 1:15:47 PM

Thank you all for your responses will read later, but I want to post this.

I am not sure if I should go and get this now, but from a email I got from newegg.com. I got a promo for this Asus. Should I go for this instead of the combos?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Price will be $224.00.
July 14, 2009 1:59:49 PM

If I gothis route once again will the OCZ Platinums be good enough. Please write down a few memory options so I can make a decision tonight. Thanks everyone.
a b V Motherboard
July 14, 2009 2:51:44 PM

If you have the cash go with the P6T deluxe combo, if not you should be fine with the P6T and the OCZ combo
July 15, 2009 4:59:15 AM

The promo deal will not work. It is cheaper to go with the combo.

Here is something weird. If you put the combo with the p6t deluxe into the shopping cart they ad a CPU Mag Gift which is supposed to be free and they are charging you $35.94, which boosts the price to 382.98 instead of 347.04. How do you get rid of that? If not, I guess the combo for that one is out.

So, I guess I am back to deciding between the UD5P, UD4P or the P6T regular combos, unless I can get that charge for that Mag gift off the cart for the p6T Deluxe.

I know you guys here are more for the Asus, but I am still having a hard time deciding between the 2 because of the excellent recommendations I am getting for both.
a b V Motherboard
July 15, 2009 5:35:49 AM

If you look closely to the cart you will see that they deduct the price of the Mag from the total, meaning you get the Mag for free. It will say for example 289.99$ - 35.94$ = 254.05$ Then they add the Mag again for 35.94$ + 254.05$ = 289.99$. So in the end you get the mag for free. Same as with the combo, if you do the math you will see that in the end you are not paying for the Mag. If this weren't true you would end up paying 289.99$ + 35.94$= 325.93$
July 15, 2009 1:05:55 PM

Thank you. Can you guys recommend good case fans? I need to buy blue ones for my case. What brand should I get?
a b V Motherboard
July 15, 2009 2:45:28 PM

Just a pointer and some help:::Very few people on the forum will want to click on the links to see what you have there, I bet if you actually wrote out the specs of the stuff in your post and include a link, you'll get more replies :) 

-The OCZ is ram is good, the GTS250 is also really good, i recommend those. Asus and gigabyte for mobo's are really good, cant go wrong with either just decide on which one is better for your needs and meets your criteria.
a b V Motherboard
July 15, 2009 3:12:56 PM

blackhawk1928 said:
Just a pointer and some help:::Very few people on the forum will want to click on the links to see what you have there, I bet if you actually wrote out the specs of the stuff in your post and include a link, you'll get more replies :) 

-The OCZ is ram is good, the GTS250 is also really good, i recommend those. Asus and gigabyte for mobo's are really good, cant go wrong with either just decide on which one is better for your needs and meets your criteria.


Dude, what are you talking about? Normally when you recommend a product to someone they want a link specifically to SEE the product, reviews, prices, etc.... Dont know why you posted such a comment but I guess you are entitled to your own opinion.......
a b V Motherboard
July 15, 2009 6:42:00 PM

"Dude, what are you talking about?" -OvrClkr
-What am i talking about hmm...I am saying that if people just see the detailed specs of the product instead opening like 20 pages to see them and all that, it will make thier life easier and inturn they will give more replies, often times if even if a person gives a link, I just look at the specs/ name of the product that they wrote in the actual post and I post a reply :) 
a b V Motherboard
July 15, 2009 6:48:40 PM

I do not agree with you on that one, but I guess I will leave it at that....

a b V Motherboard
July 15, 2009 10:31:56 PM

OvrClkr - you re are missing the point. Go back and read blackhawks earlier post - he asked that the basic information identifying a product be posted along WITH the link. All readers get to read what the items are without having to open a bunch of links to get that info. And the link is there for the details. Makes sense to me.
a b V Motherboard
July 15, 2009 11:57:08 PM

^+ thats what i meant :)  thank you
a b V Motherboard
July 16, 2009 12:51:25 AM

rockyjohn said:
OvrClkr - you re are missing the point. Go back and read blackhawks earlier post - he asked that the basic information identifying a product be posted along WITH the link. All readers get to read what the items are without having to open a bunch of links to get that info. And the link is there for the details. Makes sense to me.



Still does not make any sense...

I have been helping rocknje from the get-go and If I post links so he can see the product that does not mean other wont post their threads. This is nonsense, I have been doing this for years w/o anyone giving me this kind of feedback. I might be misunderstanding what you are trying to explain, but as far as the links you are wrong.....
a b V Motherboard
July 16, 2009 12:53:14 AM

Btw blackhawk1928 did not start the thread it was rocknje.
a b V Motherboard
July 16, 2009 2:24:27 AM

I didn't mean adding specs+links in replies, I meant in the begging Post, the post the that OP MAKES!!! WHAT I SAID GOES FOR THE FIRST POST! I never said that you shouldn't give links, you should! but I also said that next to or under the links include the specs so people viewing dont have to click on a bunch of links and open loads of pages and then search to find specs. If you want good replies, the OP needs to do the research and work, not the repliers. thats why under the links, you should have found all the specs and posted them to make it easier for the repliers and in turn you will recieve more replies, these messages are the thread starter. If there is something wrong with my logic, please correct me.
a b V Motherboard
July 16, 2009 3:21:43 AM

No need for correction as I now understand what you actually mean, and i apologize for not paying attention. I was at work trying to help 5 peeps at the same time and I guess I misunderstood you.



a b V Motherboard
July 16, 2009 3:28:40 AM

wOw... talk about not paying attention...I guess since it is stressfull at work and on top of that trying to help online...there is barely any time to type more info...so that was 100% my bad.....
July 16, 2009 7:25:41 AM

Hello OvrClkr, computersss and everyone,

I have finally made the purchase. I like to personally thank OverClkr for sticking with me from the old thread and being the main contributor of this thread. Thank you very much. You have helped greatly. computersss, thank you for your replies to this thread, you have been a great help. Much appreciated. Also, to everyone else Thank you for your great replies as they helped as well.

OverClkr computersss, while I was going to purchase the Asus P6T Deluxe combo, I ended up getting the Gigabyte UD5P. What changed my mind where these features, I really liked the LCD's that help you with troubleshooting and the CMOS button that you can easily clear the Bios.

Here are the results

COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Motherboard and Memory Combo

GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD5 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1600LV6GK - Retail

Hard Drive for OS

Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

Other Items

Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail

KINGWIN 15.74" SATA Data & Power combo cable Model SAC-04 - Retail 4QTY

Came out to $756.18 with discounts.

What do you guys think? If there is anything I forgot, please let me know and I will get them. Other than that, I will keep you guys updated. I also might have a few more questions for guys as the project unfolds.
a b V Motherboard
July 16, 2009 2:22:04 PM

rocknje said:
Hello OvrClkr, computersss and everyone,

I have finally made the purchase. I like to personally thank OverClkr for sticking with me from the old thread and being the main contributor of this thread. Thank you very much. You have helped greatly. computersss, thank you for your replies to this thread, you have been a great help. Much appreciated. Also, to everyone else Thank you for your great replies as they helped as well.

OverClkr computersss, while I was going to purchase the Asus P6T Deluxe combo, I ended up getting the Gigabyte UD5P. What changed my mind where these features, I really liked the LCD's that help you with troubleshooting and the CMOS button that you can easily clear the Bios.

Here are the results

COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

Motherboard and Memory Combo

GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD5 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail

OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1600LV6GK - Retail

Hard Drive for OS

Western Digital Caviar Black WD5001AALS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM

Other Items

Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM

Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail

KINGWIN 15.74" SATA Data & Power combo cable Model SAC-04 - Retail 4QTY

Came out to $756.18 with discounts.

What do you guys think? If there is anything I forgot, please let me know and I will get them. Other than that, I will keep you guys updated. I also might have a few more questions for guys as the project unfolds.


You are very welcome Sir, on a side note : I don't know if it was done on purpose or not but the list is missing a CPU. Just a heads up!!! You don't want to for get that part!!!! Anyways let me know if you have any questions..... :??:  :??: 
a b V Motherboard
July 17, 2009 6:06:28 AM

Video card?

For some odd reason it says :



COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail

109.99$ -$10.00 Instant 199.98$ ???????????????????????????
a b V Motherboard
July 17, 2009 3:26:30 PM

OvrClkr said:
wOw... talk about not paying attention...I guess since it is stressfull at work and on top of that trying to help online...there is barely any time to type more info...so that was 100% my bad.....

-No problem, I understand, stress really takes away from a persons abilities sometimes, been through it, no problem it happens ;) 
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