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July 31, 2011 5:10:59 PM

When i use the auto tune program TurboV EVO that came with my Asus mobo, it adjusts my cpu from 3.0 to 3.4 however it reduces my RAM from 1333Mhz to 942Mhz. TurboV says this is a 16% boost but is it worth sacrificing RAM speed for the CPU boost?

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July 31, 2011 5:14:45 PM

if it helps my build is:
ASUS M4A89GTD PRO
AMD Phenom II X6 1075T Thuban 3.0GHz
Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600
SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5
CORSAIR Professional Series HX650 650W
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July 31, 2011 5:43:01 PM

Not true ... you mean ram at 924mhz, it showed in the cpu-z right? it means running over 1800MHz ram with dual ram 1333 (@ 667). Is your oc test get pass from prime95 8 hours ? In midle oc use software ok , but if you do higher I suggest via bios. It will safelly. And remember maximum temperature below 55C
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July 31, 2011 5:51:29 PM

this is my first time so i'm not familiar with all the terms, let me get this straight. 924Mhz is actually dual channel, OC'ed to 1800Mhz? what is prime95? my bios also has an auto-tune feature which adjusts settings based on the CPU frequency i select, would this be better than the TurboV program?
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July 31, 2011 6:46:28 PM

Do i use Prime95 to test stability after OC'ing or before OC'ing to find how far i can push the CPU?
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July 31, 2011 7:12:20 PM

Use prime to find out if your OC is stable......I suggest OCing through the BIOS as Software can get corrupted and really mess up some stuff......Yes you understood henydiah right...If your reading 942 MHz on CPU-Z your RAM is OCed to 1884 MHz....which is a helluva RAM OC from 1333
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July 31, 2011 7:40:05 PM

Forget Turvo V Evo, or whatever that is.

Do overclocking through bios.

I'm confused, you say it reduced your 1333 memory to 942, but you have 1600 memory. Am I missing something here?? Is there a reason you would be running 1600mhz ram at 1333mhz to begin with?

Download cpu-z, run it, and post a screenshot of the memory tab for us to look at.

I don't think it's decreasing your ram speed but rather increasing your ram speed to an unsafe level.
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July 31, 2011 7:47:01 PM

I suspect something has been posted in error as even 1600 RAM would have a hard time OCing to above 1800 MHz
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July 31, 2011 8:01:17 PM

lowjack989 said:
I suspect something has been posted in error as even 1600 RAM would have a hard time OCing to above 1800 MHz


I guess it's possible but it won't last long like that.
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July 31, 2011 8:05:17 PM

Yeach actually am3 standard begin from 1333 whatever we have ram 1600 - 2000.
this need manual set in divider . I think patriot very strong for oc fsb .. Yeah I want it :D 
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July 31, 2011 8:13:41 PM

Yeah Henydiah...me too...if its posting up past 1866 at CL7...When its stock 1600 then thats some really good RAM
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July 31, 2011 8:17:01 PM

ok not sure how to post a screenshot but i am not OC'ed at the moment anyways. currently it reads
DDR3 Dual channel 8192 MBytes
NB Frequency 2006Mhz
DRAM Frequency 673.3Mhz
FSB:D RAM 3:10
Clocks 9-9-9-24-33
CR 1T

The mobo spec sheet says it can OC memory to 2000. here are the spec pages for the Mobo and memory: http://usa.asus.com/Motherboards/AMD_AM3/M4A89GTD_PROUS...

http://www.patriotmemory.com/products/specs/PG238G1600E...

I'll use the bios auto tune then boot and give you that info in a minute.
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July 31, 2011 8:20:34 PM

Your RAM is actually at 1346 MHZ CL9.....according to that last post....screenies with win 7 is easy just use the snipping tool in the accessories and then post the screenshot to a file sharing site like flikr or photobucket
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July 31, 2011 8:34:47 PM

yeah it's set to 1333 the mobo has 1600 as an option but does not boot when it's set there, also 1600 is not listed on the spec page as being supported. when its in 924 oc'd everything boots w/o problems.
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July 31, 2011 8:47:54 PM

Ok I ... I understood , missing @thing, Ram at 3:10 .. How is high your FSB x multiplier?
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July 31, 2011 8:48:38 PM

strange.......it should boot right up at 1600.....your using The FSB to OC so drop the mem back to 1333 then bump the fsb up to 240 that will be 1600...or push the RAM back to 1066 and turn the FSB up to 280 that will also be 1600....THe 240 FSB will give you a 3.6 GHZ CPU OC and the 280 will give you 4.2 GHz....these are just guidelines granted but, you get the idea
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July 31, 2011 9:08:45 PM

I see that you have Cool n Quiet enabled....OK...so this is what you do: Disable C-n-Q and C1E feature in the BIOS....set your RAM in BIOS to run at 1333 MHz....Set your FSB to 240 MHz...That will give you 3.6GHz CPU, 1600 MHz RAM....BTW in window change your power profile to high perfomance...Forget that Auto Tune crap its not a good feature IMO....I have this board and its a very stable foundation for high OCing
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July 31, 2011 9:17:50 PM

what is C1E if you dont mind explaining it and what is the temp range i am looking for once this is done? i have 2 programs Core Temp which reads 24c and ASUS pc probe which is telling me 37c. they cant both be right
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July 31, 2011 9:20:23 PM

I use speedfan for temps or coretemp.....C1E is a powerstate manager.....i.e. power saver it will hinder your performance when OCing
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July 31, 2011 9:47:11 PM

I see no reason to disable C1E. Not sure why that's suggested.

Your ram settings are completely screwed up. Your running cas9 memory at cas6? No wonder it's setting itself at 934.

You need to go into bios, manually configure your ram to run the rated speed, which is on the sticker, on the ram.

You need to set the speed to 1600, the timings to whatever are on the sticker, and the voltage to whatever is on the sticker.
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July 31, 2011 11:17:38 PM

Fantastic. i set the timings and voltage as stated on the RAM and booted just fine. the mobo listed it at 1547Mhz. thank you. a few more questions if you dont mind. Should i activate the Core Unlocker feature in my Bios(running a AMD Phenom II X6 1075T Thuban 3.0GHz)? Someone mentioned increasing my FSB would raise the CPU speed, there is a similar option for my PCI-E. would raising that boost my GPU(SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5)?
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July 31, 2011 11:56:26 PM

DO NOT ENABLE CORE UNLOCKER !!!!!!!.....Do not change the PCI-E clock ever......use either ATI CCC or MSI Afterburner...or some other software...but do not touch that clockspeed in BIOS....

@Geekapproved---->C1E ...Enhanced Halt State (C1E) Reduces Clock Speed...or at least trys to when your OCing....Research C1E, you will see what I am talking about then

BTW---->To OC that chip you will have to use the FSB as I stated earlier
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August 1, 2011 4:05:25 PM

I don't need to research C1E, I've known about it for 10 years, lol.

There is absolutely no reason to disable it unless your doing some sort of extreme overclocking. If you want to run your cpu at full speed all the time (who would be that dumb?) and your electric bill is too low, then sure, disable it.

He has a single 6870, there is no reason to overclock the cpu at all, let alone extreme.

There is no reason to enable core unlocker, you don't have any cores locked.

If you want to overclock your video card, use Catalyst control center or another program, don't increase pci-e.
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August 1, 2011 5:07:06 PM

@Geekapproved-->Really what did that piss you off....why so touchy...Also, The OP wants to OC in case you didn't realize it...Hence they are on the TH OC forum....Man you always get attitude.. I simply suggested something and you come with oh you don't need to research it..You known about it for 10 years and such, blah,blah, blah...Well whatever, I guess you're the expert......When OCing C1E should be disabled !!!

Sorry for the rant.....Mods and OP
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August 1, 2011 6:21:15 PM

Where in my post did you sense attitude or being pissed off??? I'm touchy? Your the one with your panties in a wad because I said I didn't need to research c1e. LOL

I'm aware he wants to overclock. I said EXTREME overclocking, please pay attention, and since 400mhz is far from an EXTREME overclocking, disabling c1e is just dumb.

I've had 100% overclocks and never disabled c1e and never had any problems and my cpu clocked itself down to save power and make less heat when idle, that's what it's supposed to do.

Ultramega, glad I was able to help you to get your memory running correctly.

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August 1, 2011 6:32:48 PM

Ha Ha Ha...Nice to see you pat yourself on the back....OP glad you got it going stable....
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August 1, 2011 6:51:16 PM

lowjack989 said:
Ha Ha Ha...Nice to see you pat yourself on the back....OP glad you got it going stable....


I didn't pat myself on the back. The OP thanked me for getting his speed, voltage and timings set correctly. Sorry you were unable to comprehend that post as well.
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August 1, 2011 6:56:06 PM

You are to funny I didn't see where he thanked anyone...Did you take him saying fantastic as a thank you....I think my posts speak for themselves
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August 1, 2011 6:57:54 PM

No actually I took "thank you" as thank you.

My post:

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Your ram settings are completely screwed up. Your running cas9 memory at cas6? No wonder it's setting itself at 934.

You need to go into bios, manually configure your ram to run the rated speed, which is on the sticker, on the ram.

You need to set the speed to 1600, the timings to whatever are on the sticker, and the voltage to whatever is on the sticker.







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Ultramega said:
Fantastic. i set the timings and voltage as stated on the RAM and booted just fine. the mobo listed it at 1547Mhz. thank you. a few more questions if you dont mind. Should i activate the Core Unlocker feature in my Bios(running a AMD Phenom II X6 1075T Thuban 3.0GHz)? Someone mentioned increasing my FSB would raise the CPU speed, there is a similar option for my PCI-E. would raising that boost my GPU(SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 6870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5)?


Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing. :lol: 
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August 1, 2011 7:30:18 PM

Your posts definitely speak for themselves, I can't deny that.

LOL
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August 1, 2011 8:44:11 PM

LMAO....This thread is dead anyway....This thread has been hijacked by us bickering back and forth....

Sorry, OP...
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August 1, 2011 9:49:28 PM

lol it's ok. i have been following your bickering as closely as your advice. Since you both seem knowledgeable perhaps you can help my fix my front panel I/O problem. I have checked BIOS, it's set to HD audio. The mic works in back and both front and rear audio jacks work. when i plug my mic into the front i get a notification that i have plugged in a device, it is recogized as a mic in windows. If it was a cable issue i dont think it would do anything when the device is plugged in, would it? I even have tried seperating all input jacks in the advanced options. the jack is then labeled as Mic in at front panel(pink). Drivers are up to date and the properties states the jack is working properly. What am i missing?
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August 1, 2011 10:49:16 PM

Which connector is hooked to the MOBO....AC 97 or HD Audio? So, the mic works in back and not the front? The notification is normal...When you plug the mic into the front it doesn't work, did I understand that right?
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August 2, 2011 2:04:55 AM

if I could translate the debate over the well, I could argue that, please follow the instructions of @Lowjack, he was an expert in the case of AMD, I follow from the above there is little I can understand, I think @ Jack said is true and good .. [:briovaz:2]
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August 2, 2011 6:03:27 AM

I have the HD Audio plugged in and set in the bios. when i plug my mic in windows resonds normally. a notification that a device was plugged in, where it was plugged in and a dialog box to confirm it was a mic that i connected. the front jack is turned up in the audio manager, enabled and set to the default device in properties. it simply does not record. it doesnt matter whether i am using ventrilo or testing in audio manager.
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August 2, 2011 6:11:17 AM

yes many are experiencing the event the front panel audio not working because every case is different with connections to the motherboard, there are successful and many are not as successful as my case ha ha ha, what if it must try to live through the back ..? origin mic cable length is not a problem. try to record with cooleditpro / adobe audition
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August 3, 2011 4:53:42 PM

Best answer selected by Ultramega.
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