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August 4, 2009 5:23:12 PM

http://www.fudzilla.com/content/view/14909/1/

bit disapointed, wanted powerfull single cards, not this..

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a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 5:54:45 PM

Have to wait and see. Scaling is currently thru the roof on thier current cf top end solution, as high as 92% at 19x12 resolution.
Theres other things theyre working on as well. We have to see how well MT in W7 and DX11 plays a part with x2 solutions
August 4, 2009 6:52:22 PM

yeah i know, i just really like single cards...
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a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 7:43:45 PM

Rumor is, the 5870 will have double the ROPs of the 4890, which could be interesting, especially with the more diversified DX11
August 4, 2009 8:05:06 PM

mmm sweet, i know its gonna be real good.
how about the price? whats ur guess JD?
im guessing gtx 285 price...
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 8:16:14 PM

Good guess, as itd be mine too. I think itll be higher tahn what weve seen, since itll be the most powerful card, with no competition til nVidia arrives with theirs, so, currently nVidias high halo price point sound right to me too
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 8:19:02 PM

I would expect it to be priced comparitively to the current 4890's. I don't think it will be at a price point as high as the gtx285.
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 8:34:30 PM

If I recall Richard Huddys wording, it went some thing like, itll be great to take advantage of having the market all to ourselves, which can be translated in many ways. Halo pricing included, tho on the low end of it
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 8:37:27 PM

Hmm, I must be on some other planet today...

Yes, of course the x2 will be at some other price point.. I was thinking about just the single 5870..

Akin to the 295 I'd imagine.
August 4, 2009 8:38:05 PM

no i dont think they will price it near the 4890 because that part of the market is way too tight already...

the 4890 is a "new" card and they won't just give it away yet...
August 4, 2009 8:39:26 PM

i'm talking about the 5870, my guess is aproximately $320 - $350
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 8:48:57 PM

Don't expect them to preserve any 4000 series cards in the current price point. Remember that they want to crush Nvidia when they release these. They will not allow any price point to have any competition in it if they can avoid it. Not until Nvidia gets thier dx11 cards out the door anyway.

I'd expcet the 5000 series to replace the 4000 in almost every price point almost immediately. Pehaps one or two products will remain a halo product to reap some cash.

They will only have a couple months before nvidia has their answer. They want to sell as many cards (make as much money and gain solid share) as possible in this time.
August 4, 2009 8:51:51 PM

i think prices won't go down inmediately... they will go down once nvidia gets thie new stuff out, or lower their current gen prices... a gtx 285 at $250 por example...
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 9:00:15 PM

They need to provide a market where noone has any reason to buy an nvidia card at all until they get their new stuff out the door. Prices will not be as wildly high as you seem to think.

The prices for the 4000 series will be adjusted to meet whatever nvidia does to their lineup. The 5000 cards will only be slightly more expensive to allow crushign competition in every bracket. While at the same time allowing high prices on the products that are entirely unchallenged.

ATI does not want nvidia to simply start selling a 285 for the price of a 4850 and still maintain high market share. They want their 5000 series, and whatever stocks they have left of the 4000, to be the unquestioned choice for everyone until the gtx300's. They are not stupid, they know noone will buy a card if they are certain it will be half as much in a month when there is competition. This is as much about makign cash as it is to start the next gen with a huge boost in share.
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 9:23:11 PM

Could be like this, Say a 4890 goes under a 275 decently for a clean price/perf win, with the 5xxx equivilent being just above it.
The 4870 below the 260 216 by decent margins, with 5xxx just above the 260, while all the 5xxx series parts are a imporvement in their segments over the 4xxx series. Thats my expectations, its is different with the halo product tho, a little leg stretching is expected there, so higher pricing vs competing and existing products
August 4, 2009 9:52:17 PM

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say, at least $600 for the x2 part. That's around where the 4870x2 was priced when it first hit market, and it was performance king at the time.

And $300 for the 5870. Yeah.....it will probably cost more.....but if they did price it like this they could take alot of market share and move alot of cards. I'm sure they've got people who calculate what exact price will create the most profit.

I'm just hoping the 5870's aren't $400 a pop, and $800 for the dual card....That's just too much money.
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 10:22:01 PM

There are limits people will pay for things, even with no competition. Jaydeejohn is pretty close to what I would expect.

The 5870x2 will be killer expensive though...
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a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 10:36:24 PM

Just like AMD, ATI will always be a second rate company. I will never touch AMD or ATI ever again!! I have had too many problems. I never had ANY problems with Intel and Nvidia. Flame away fan boys!
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a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 10:48:06 PM

Quote:
Why did they remove the post rating system when we have people like moonblood around.


ah poor little baby wanted to give me a thumbs down...I hurt your poor second rate amd/ati feelings...ahhh...here is a kleenex...run along now :sol: 
August 4, 2009 11:01:14 PM

ass... hes probably got a small dick and wants to make it up somehow...
get out of here stupid nvidia fanboy no one is saying ATI is better...
were just talking about future products...
August 4, 2009 11:03:34 PM

ppl should pass an IQ test before being accepted into tom's
August 4, 2009 11:06:59 PM

Quote:
Only thing I will need a kleenex for is cleaning myself up after jerking off to your corpse.



awesome... :) 
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a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 11:12:21 PM

Quote:
Only thing I will need a kleenex for is cleaning myself up after jerking off to your corpse.


You just outed yourself as a violent brain dead hick! You have to be an American. Only Americans tend to be so vile stupid and violent. Making vulgar death threats because of a comment about computers brands is off the wall insane. You truly are a vile individual. Must be real shallow in your gene pool buddy. No worries, evolution usually weeds out unworthy individuals like you. Your death threat is being reported.
August 4, 2009 11:12:40 PM

the ati 5800 series according to my sources comes with 1200 sps, so the single cards should be quite powerfull also, i wish they could have done like how they did from 3800>4800 320>800>2000, moonblood, give em a try, just a try, buy an amd rig for 400$ and then an intel for $400 (if thats possible) and tell me which one scores better on 3dmark, sandra, anything, to me the only intel products that make sense are the atoms, the q9 quads and the i7 920, and directx 10.1 gives 10-20% higher performance over directx 10.0, just ask jdj.
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a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 11:19:32 PM

Nica Guy said:
awesome... :) 



Let me guess....you are 12 years old, inbred and violent? Because that would have to be the case! Only such a person would respond the way you did after a vulgar death threat.
August 4, 2009 11:22:53 PM

no im just someone who wants you out of this thread because u are inmature and stupid... very stupid actually... im 7 btw...

anything bad against your posts is fine by me... cheers strangestranger...
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a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 11:23:15 PM

Quote:
Hmm, what is worse, making a comment about what I would do I saw your corpse with no mention of actually harming you(although I would in a long and drawn out manner) or calling someone an american?

I think the answer is obvious.



You want to take a swing at me? I can arrange that for you. Honestly. It would be the last swing you would ever take. Also, who jerks off to a corpse? You really are the lowest of scum. Pond scum is even better than you. Have you graduated from highschool? Or were you home schooled by violent corpse masturbating hicks?
August 4, 2009 11:24:29 PM

dude i dont think u graduated... just shut up...
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a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 11:25:28 PM

Nica Guy said:
no im just someone who wants you out of this thread because u are inmature and stupid... very stupid actually... im 7 btw...

anything bad against your posts is fine by me... cheers strangestranger...


I said I hated amd and ati....he issued a death threat and said he would jerk off to my corpse....and I am immature and stupid? Wow that says a lot about you. You are just as vile and violent as he is.
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a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 11:26:54 PM

Nica Guy said:
dude i dont think u graduated... just shut up...



Hey little man, you can tell me to shut up all you want...it doesn't change the fact you are a vile little man that laughs at death threats and necrophilia jokes!!
a c 87 U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 11:27:12 PM

***
August 4, 2009 11:27:23 PM

that doesn't change anything, ur still stupid in my eyes...
August 4, 2009 11:27:37 PM

hey hey hey, i think weve all masturbated to a corpse or two
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 11:27:57 PM

Death threats will get you banned! Period!
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 11:28:31 PM

Nica Guy said:
that doesn't change anything, ur still stupid in my eyes...


Like I care what a dumb inbred chimp thinks of me!! LOL
August 4, 2009 11:29:36 PM

*** off...
a c 87 U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 11:29:51 PM

****** *** *************

go fight with crackheads, it's much more productive
August 4, 2009 11:30:41 PM

so just stop answering...
we are vile we don't care what u say...
August 4, 2009 11:32:20 PM

y the hell dont you kids go outside and play, wait till ur stuck in a dead end job to sit infrunt of the pc all day, enjoy ur youth
August 4, 2009 11:33:51 PM

xaira said:
y the hell dont you kids go outside and play, wait till ur stuck in a dead end job to sit infrunt of the pc all day, enjoy ur youth


ok right into it... dog's waiting...
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
August 4, 2009 11:34:15 PM

Incredible how much filth you can find in a forum about computers. Vile crazy lunatics are everywhere. Evolution will eventually weed them out. :) 
August 4, 2009 11:34:53 PM

said that already...
August 4, 2009 11:37:10 PM

retarded fish frogs r we?
August 5, 2009 12:01:19 AM

probably... 512bit gddr5 right?
August 5, 2009 12:03:57 AM

how do you no?
have you seen specs?
have you seen clocks?
amd should pull a fast 1 on us and release a beast with 2000 stream processors per gpu, all clocked at 1.2 ghz with 512bit gddr5 and utterly oblitherate the green jiant
August 5, 2009 12:05:06 AM

and i spelt jiant wrong unperpose because i dont like the letter g
August 5, 2009 12:05:29 AM

im just asking didnt u see the question mark? that was the last thing i read...
a b U Graphics card
August 5, 2009 12:10:21 AM

DDR5 is nonsense.... Look how the 295 with less than 2GB of DDR3 "MURDERED" the 4870x2 that has 2GB of DDR5....

The 5 at the end of the DDR was made to lure the kids into buying something suposedly "HIGH END" when its all BS......

In the end its a matter of taste and not who has the faster card....

Both "Flagship" cards from both companies deliver when it comes to GAME... While you guys argue about who has more Vram, Rops, SP's, SPU's... in the end if the card satisfies your needs then that is what counts.......I guess this is how I see it....
August 5, 2009 12:13:57 AM

ddr5 matters as much as interface, as both affect bandwith directly...

u should know that...
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