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After thinking about it for a few days I decided to just go with the stock cooler for my i7-920.

After power up, installing software & putting the sides on I ran prime 95 for an hour and got around 75c for the 4 cores using HW Monitor.

They run in the mid 40's during normal operation.

I don't plan to overclock much, if any & don't do a lot of intense gaming.

Just wondering if I should be concerned with these temps as I'm about to move it off the work table to its permanent home & put it to real use.

dblake,

At what ambient?

Which Prime95 test? There's a difference.

We can do better than opinions ... we have Intel's Thermal Specifications. From Intel's Processor Spec Finder - http://processorfinder.intel.com/L [...] SearchKey=

All Core i7 9xx variants:

Vcore Max 1.375
Tcase Max (CPU temperature) 68c
Tjunction (Core temperature) 73c

The Thermal Specification shown in Intel's Processor Spec Finder is Tcase Max (CPU) not Tjunction (Core), which is a very common misconception among most enthusiasts. Since there's a 5c gradient between the CPU sensor and the Core sensors, (shown in the following Intel document) - http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0709/0709.1861.pdf - just add 5c to the value shown in the Spec Finder to determine the corresponding Core temperature, which is 73c for all Core i7 9xx variants.

Intel's second and frequently misunderstood Thermal Specification, Tjunction Max, (100c for all Core i variants) applies to overtemp protection such as Throttle and Shutdown, so you don't toast your transistors. As such, any i7 Core temperatures which exceed 73c should be considered "overtemp". Further, when specifications are exceeded, then processor degradation becomes a concern, which is explained in the following AnandTech article - http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/i [...] i=3251&p=6

Prime95 Small FFT's is the Standard for processor thermal testing, because it's a steady-state 100% workload which yields steady-state temperatures, whereas Blend (the default torture test) is a memory cyclic workload which yields fluctuating processor temperatures. Small FFT's will reach 97% thermal saturation within 7 to 8 minutes, so a 10 minute test is adequate. Thermal testing should be conducted as close as possible to 22c (72f) Standard ambient, with case covers removed, the computer clear of any desk enclosures, and all fans at 100% RPM to eliminate cooling variables, and to produce consistent and repeatable results for comparisons. If the Gradient between CPU temperature and "mean" (average) Core temperature is not ~ 5c, then BIOS is incorrectly coded. CPU temperature and Core temperatures can be individually calibrated in SpeedFan by following the Calibrations Section in the Temperature Guide.

If you'd like to learn more about processor temperatures, then just click on the link in my signature.

Comp :sol:
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dblake,

At what ambient?

Which Prime95 test? There's a difference.

We can do better than opinions ... we have Intel's Thermal Specifications. From Intel's Processor Spec Finder - http://processorfinder.intel.com/L [...] SearchKey=

All Core i7 9xx variants:

Vcore Max 1.375
Tcase Max (CPU temperature) 68c
Tjunction (Core temperature) 73c

The Thermal Specification shown in Intel's Processor Spec Finder is Tcase Max (CPU) not Tjunction (Core), which is a very common misconception among most enthusiasts. Since there's a 5c gradient between the CPU sensor and the Core sensors, (shown in the following Intel document) - http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0709/0709.1861.pdf - just add 5c to the value shown in the Spec Finder to determine the corresponding Core temperature, which is 73c for all Core i7 9xx variants.

Intel's second and frequently misunderstood Thermal Specification, Tjunction Max, (100c for all Core i variants) applies to overtemp protection such as Throttle and Shutdown, so you don't toast your transistors. As such, any i7 Core temperatures which exceed 73c should be considered "overtemp". Further, when specifications are exceeded, then processor degradation becomes a concern, which is explained in the following AnandTech article - http://anandtech.com/cpuchipsets/i [...] i=3251&p=6

Prime95 Small FFT's is the Standard for processor thermal testing, because it's a steady-state 100% workload which yields steady-state temperatures, whereas Blend (the default torture test) is a memory cyclic workload which yields fluctuating processor temperatures. Small FFT's will reach 97% thermal saturation within 7 to 8 minutes, so a 10 minute test is adequate. Thermal testing should be conducted as close as possible to 22c (72f) Standard ambient, with case covers removed, the computer clear of any desk enclosures, and all fans at 100% RPM to eliminate cooling variables, and to produce consistent and repeatable results for comparisons. If the Gradient between CPU temperature and "mean" (average) Core temperature is not ~ 5c, then BIOS is incorrectly coded. CPU temperature and Core temperatures can be individually calibrated in SpeedFan by following the Calibrations Section in the Temperature Guide.

If you'd like to learn more about processor temperatures, then just click on the link in my signature.

Comp :sol:

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Thanks for the info.

Ambient was around 65f, default prime95 torture test, all covers on.

I'll redo it & see what I come up with, sounds like I'm bumping up against the max though.

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