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"Well for all those who have have used Nvidia cards for PhysX and ATI cards to render graphics in Windows 7...All that is about to change.

Since the release of 186 graphics drivers Nvidia has decided to disable PhysX anytime a Non-Nvidia GPU is even present in the same PC. Nvidia again has shot themselves in the foot here and showed they are not customer oriented. Since they are pushing Physx this will not win over any ATI fanboys with this latest decision.

Here is a copy of the email I received from Nvidia support confirming what they have done.


Quote:
Hello JC,

Ill explain why this function was disabled.

Physx is an open software standard any company can freely develop hardware or software that supports it. Nvidia supports GPU accelerated Physx on NVIDIA GPUs while using NVIDIA GPUs for graphics. NVIDIA performs extensive Engineering, Development, and QA work that makes Physx a great experience for customers. For a variety of reasons - some development expense some quality assurance and some business reasons NVIDIA will not support GPU accelerated Physx with NVIDIA GPUs while GPU rendering is happening on non- NVIDIA GPUs. I'm sorry for any inconvenience caused but I hope you can understand.

Best Regards,
Troy
NVIDIA Customer Care

So this really confirms that PhysX will be doomed as an adopted API regardless how hard Nvidia pushes it as a result of action like this. "
http://www.ngohq.com/graphic-cards [...] esent.html

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Holy crap! Nvidia will need a wheelchair just to crawl if they keep up stuff like that! [:rocket_sauce:1]


Message edited by xtc28 on 08-08-2009 at 07:28:56 PM
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Yay!, higher Vantage scores ;) . Seriously though, the only people who can really influence how this turns out is the game devs as they are the ones who ultimately decide what to include or leave out of whatever game they intend to make, yes or no?

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Reply to mousemonkey

True, but the devs will have alot of ATI help in their ears while working on DX11 games, which are the ones being worked on now, even if they dont come out til later, as nVidia simply doesnt have DX11 cards for support.
LRB is going to take a huge sgare of influence away from both ATI and nVidia, but mostly nVidia, as theyve been the most successful with their TWIMTBP program. Bad move. May as well shoot themselves, or dump physx now

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Reply to jaydeejohn

Only time (and the small print in certain contracts) will tell.

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Reply to mousemonkey

I really think they are underestimating the amount of people with that old 8800gt who would use such a setup.

People may recycle old card for such a purpose but far fewer people will buy a card soley for that purpose.

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Reply to strangestranger

Well, no ones going to go dump their ATI primary card, just to go get physx.
Another thing is, all those that do have ATI primary, and nVidia doing physx, I see them selling their old cards, which will mainly be bought by? People who prefer nVidia. So, hows that supposed to improve sales? Or further the use of physx when the devs see 40% of the market has been cut out?


Message edited by jaydeejohn on 08-08-2009 at 07:48:08 PM
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Reply to jaydeejohn

Interesting. I've read alot about people trying to use an Nvidia gpu as a Physx card with an ATI video card, but not seeing the enable physx options available in the nvidia control panel. This explains why.

Personally, I have successfully used a 9600GSO as a physx card with my 2x HD4870 set up under windows 7. I used the 182.xx Vista drivers. Since newer drivers aren't going to improve performance when it's only used for physx, people are just going to use the older drivers to get physx to work. All this really does is just piss off customers and drive them toward ATI.


Message edited by orangegator on 08-08-2009 at 07:54:14 PM
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I was about to buy a gtx 280 for physx........... now I wont.

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Reply to xtc28
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Stooooopid

will these suits never learn?

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Reply to jojo69

PhysX already dead-end feature, it seems Nvidia wants to kill it even sooner, maybe its for the better ;-)

Reply to Harrisson

This actaully pushed me into the ATi camp next upgrade. Nvidia should not tell you what to do and how to use YOUR PROPERTY.

Reply to maximiza

It works for Sony.

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Reply to mousemonkey
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well ill fart on nvidia

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Reply to xtc28

Ageia would be very angry

Reply to maximiza
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Who cares they sold out!!!! Its the consumers who are going to be mad!

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Reply to xtc28
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you do know there's a patch to bypass this

Reply to rangers
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I would imagine it is bound to happen at some point if not already. How about a linky?

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Reply to xtc28
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Thanks you beat me to it.

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Reply to xtc28
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i can see nvidia try and block this, they cant be to happy about it

Reply to rangers
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Im sure they will try! MSI has recently unvailed its next big contender and it just so happens to fit into this category............. THE BIG BANG X58 motherboard


Message edited by xtc28 on 10-08-2009 at 06:45:01 PM
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