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300-400 dollar build for my dad

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July 22, 2009 8:22:16 AM

My dad is running an old crappy dell pc from years ago, thought I would surprise him for his birthday with a new desktop computer. I appreciate any help I can get.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: asap probably 1-2 days

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: internet, movies, gaming

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, windows xp 32 bit

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg or amazon, prefer amazon because there's no tax in California

PARTS PREFERENCES: probably amd/ati

OVERCLOCKING: no SLI OR CROSSFIRE: no

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: should be relatively quiet and hopefully able to play counter-strike source and team fortress 2 at lower resolutions(800x600,1024x768).

Thanks
July 22, 2009 12:49:06 PM

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$30 Rosewill R223-P-BK (suggest replacing the fan/s)
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$59 OCZ ModXStream 500W (has a $20 MIR)
MB: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$75 Gigabyte GA-MA78GM-US2H 780G mATX (has a $10 MIR)(onboard GFX has plenty of power for those games, and Blu-Ray)
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$79 Phenom 8650 tri-core
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$51 G.Skill DDR2 1066 2x2GB
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$57 WD5000AAKS 500GB
DVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$27 Samsung 22x DVDR/RW

Total no OS: $378 + S&H (not counting MIR, combo/rebate)
July 22, 2009 1:10:29 PM

Intel E5200 and Biostar G31
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
4GB DDR2 800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Corsair 400CX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
4650 DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Caviar Blue 320GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Cooler Master Elite
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Lightscribe DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Comes to about $400 including shipping.

The E5200 is a great processor. I know you said no overclocking, but if you just do a small, easy overclock it will immensely help performance.

The 4650 should play those games at 1680x1050, who wants to game at 800x600 on a high res lcd?
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July 23, 2009 2:41:49 AM

What do you guys think of this? I went a little over budget, but i think its pretty good.
Let me know if there is anything you would change, I will be ordering as soon as a get the ok from a few people.
Thanks much appreciated

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223B - OEM $26.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE 100253DDR3L Radeon HD 4650 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail $50.99 $10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC ... - Retail $58.99 $20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK - Retail $50.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Combo: $89.98
Rosewill R901-P BK Triple 120mm Cooling Fan, Mesh Design Front Panel, ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Combo: $154.98 $10.00 Mail-in Rebate
AMD Phenom 9600 Agena 2.3GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Quad-Core Processor Model HD960ZWCGDBOX - Retail
GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3 AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
July 23, 2009 3:00:10 AM

originally 300-400

thanks for the options, i will take a look
July 23, 2009 3:03:33 AM

also, is there a reason the dual core is better?

Thanks
July 23, 2009 3:08:24 AM

If he doesn't do a lot of multitasking he should go for a faster dual core, if he does some maybe a 710 (triple core) would be better. The quad core 9600 is probably the worst quad core on the market (I understand why you picked it out though) which means a lot of the times a dual or triple core alternative could outperform it. Also, less importantly, that particular model has TLB errata problems, which I know very little about, so maybe someone else could elaborate on that topic...
July 23, 2009 3:15:49 AM

Wow thanks, glad you helped me fix that mistake

much appreciated
July 23, 2009 3:24:44 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

AMD Phenom 8750 Toliman 2.4GHz Socket AM2+ 95W Triple-Core Processor Model HD8750WCGHBOX - Retail
GIGABYTE GA-MA770-UD3 AM2+/AM2 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

is this a good combo? or is there a better dual core/mobo combo for about the same price?

Thanks again
July 23, 2009 3:28:25 AM

oh, and as far as dropping the video card goes, your saying the onboard is just as good on the ASUS M4A78-E AM2+/AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail you posted earlier?

if that works out i would definitely spend the extra 50 bucks on that mobo/cpu combo you posted

Thanks
July 23, 2009 3:34:54 AM

No, the 4670 would offer better performance than the 3300 and you do have a moderately high resolution monitor but if he doesn't do much gaming I would take a faster processor and better motherboard first, see how it works, and maybe try to save up for a discrete graphics card in the future...
July 23, 2009 3:47:34 AM

He does play a lot of Counter-Strike/Day of Defeat Source and Team fortress 2, so I guess I will go over budget, not too big of a deal.

Final build, let me know if you would do any last minute changes

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223B - OEM $26.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151187

SAPPHIRE 100253DDR3L Radeon HD 4650 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card - Retail $50.99 $10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814102838

OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC ... - Retail $58.99 $20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341016

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-8500CL5D-4GBPK - Retail $50.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231166

Combo: $89.98
Rosewill R901-P BK Triple 120mm Cooling Fan, Mesh Design Front Panel, ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAJS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.215994

Combo: $199.98 $10.00 Mail-in Rebate
AMD Phenom II X2 550 Black Edition Callisto 3.1GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor Model HDZ550WFGIBOX - Retail
ASUS M4A78-E AM2+/AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Thanks for everything, you've been incredibly helpful
July 23, 2009 3:48:46 AM

I like the build suggested by IH8U, and your AMD build wasn't bad but.... both the 8650 and the 9600 are low clocked original phenoms.

Going with an AMD Athlon II X2 245 or AMD Athlon II X2 250 for the CPU would be a better option. Just make sure you select a board that supports it without needing a BIOS update :D . The games your dad will be playing will benefit more from the improved architecture and higher clock speed than having more cores.
July 23, 2009 3:53:11 AM

Looks like a great build. Good luck!
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