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[Solved] Core i7 vs. phenom ii x4 965

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smartkid95   10-21-2009 at 07:13:43 AM

When it comes down to it is the performance leap huge enough for me to build an i7 system over an amd system. I prefer amd abecause of the competive pricing. The amd flagship entusiast level CPU is under $200 and intel's flagship entusiast level CPU is $1000 dollars. when I say performance leap I mean an absolute revolution like the jump from intel 486's to pentium ii type performance jump. I dhaven't had experience with either cpu so I wouldn't know. I want to know if that's the case or not. All I do is game and video edit. From I what I have gathered AMD likes video editing a little morethan intel chipsets but the i7 is in a different league than past intel sets so they claim so basically someone please guide to this big difference ecause I just don't see why to spend and extra 800 bucks that desperatley need for something else and have trouble scraping up 500 for a system build at all thanks to the wonderful economy. so someone please educate me why it is sensible to pay 800 more dollars for a multiplier unlocked i7 over a phenom ii 965, please explain to me what this big difference is that everyone keeps talking about.

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First off an i7 860 or i7 920 performs similarly to an AMD 955 so there is no reason what so ever to buy one of the higher end ones from intel when you can overclock a 920 beyond their levels anyway. You also shouldnt even consider the 965 when the 955 comes with an unlocked multiplier and they are the same chip so you just bump it up one and you have a 965 for free.

For gaming, the performance difference is negligible, however for video and photo editing hyper threading on the i7's give them a decent performance boost making a i7 860 or 920 a better choice than an AMD build.
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Bronze CPUs badge hunter315   10-21-2009 at 07:17:52 AM
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First off an i7 860 or i7 920 performs similarly to an AMD 955 so there is no reason what so ever to buy one of the higher end ones from intel when you can overclock a 920 beyond their levels anyway. You also shouldnt even consider the 965 when the 955 comes with an unlocked multiplier and they are the same chip so you just bump it up one and you have a 965 for free.

For gaming, the performance difference is negligible, however for video and photo editing hyper threading on the i7's give them a decent performance boost making a i7 860 or 920 a better choice than an AMD build.

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El_Capitan   10-21-2009 at 07:32:09 AM

hunter315 wrote :

First off an i7 860 or i7 920 performs similarly to an AMD 955 so there is no reason what so ever to buy one of the higher end ones from intel when you can overclock a 920 beyond their levels anyway. You also shouldnt even consider the 965 when the 955 comes with an unlocked multiplier and they are the same chip so you just bump it up one and you have a 965 for free.

For gaming, the performance difference is negligible, however for video and photo editing hyper threading on the i7's give them a decent performance boost making a i7 860 or 920 a better choice than an AMD build.


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Cryslayer80   10-21-2009 at 10:57:46 AM

El_Capitan wrote :

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jtt283   10-21-2009 at 07:00:26 PM

What Hunter said, especially about the AMD 965. An i7 860 might look nice, except that with the total savings (i.e. including platform) of going with AMD, you might be able to afford a SSD, and THAT will make a huge performance difference on many things. Look at some benchmarks though, because video editing does favor Intel.

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Bronze CPUs badge warmon6   10-21-2009 at 07:03:14 PM

As other said i7 860/920 is the way to go.

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Cryslayer80   10-21-2009 at 07:04:57 PM

Gaming-AMD
Editing-Intel

But of course, both are great in doing both tasks, but Intel just has an edge in advanced tasks.

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Cryslayer80   10-21-2009 at 07:11:48 PM

Both will be very good choices, but if you do more editing (if it is your profession or the primary thing you do on your PC) then I suppose you should get an I7, if you game more and do basic editing PII 965 should be a CPU for you.


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d0n7bl1nk   10-21-2009 at 08:08:56 PM

Like others have said, Core i7 is the cream of the crop. AMD can't really compete. If all you're really doing is gaming, though, a Phenom II is definitely the more sensible way to go. The whole platform is going to be much cheaper, allowing you to save a great deal, or spend more on other components.

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Cryslayer80   10-21-2009 at 08:31:40 PM

AMD CAN compete. And it does. 6 seconds earlier finishing of a video edit is not important to everyone. In gaming they are practically the same. I fail to see how AMD can't compete.

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enayet_redeemer   10-21-2009 at 09:04:39 PM

If you are a more gamer than a video editing guy then I would suggest to go for AMD. The total system can save you a lot of money with which you could buy a SSD (Agreed with one of the posts). SSD will give you huge performance leap. Get a X4 955 and overclock it.

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core i7 ownage   10-21-2009 at 09:40:50 PM

Stop arguing about I7 and PII, they have a very small performace differences, like few fps in games and few seconds in editing, and stop worrying over small thing and get cheapest ones as you can!

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djackson_dba   10-21-2009 at 09:59:04 PM

The biggest reason I could find to go AMD...
Fry's had a Gigabyte MLB/AMD 965 BE combo for $200.

I could not even buy the processor for that price!!!

Pays to watch those ads!!!

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