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What's The Intel Equivalent To The Athlon II X4 620?

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October 21, 2009 8:57:00 AM

They probably have single core Celerons for that price :lol: 
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October 21, 2009 10:08:14 AM

Intel have nothing worth buying below $120.
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October 21, 2009 3:44:33 PM

As mentioned, you can either buy a dual core from Intel for that price which will offer better single threaded performance but do poorly in multithreaded software/multitasking, or you can spend like another $50 to get the Q8200. Intel has nothing with more than 2 cores in that price range, its one of the reasons the Phenom II X3 series has been successful.
October 21, 2009 9:31:10 PM

Cryslayer80 said:
They probably have single core Celerons for that price :lol: 


Fan boy... fan boy... fan boy :whistle: 
October 21, 2009 9:32:56 PM

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The Q8200 is the closest performance wise, but much more expensive and it doesn't overclock at all.


I was going to get a few Q8200's infact. But for the same performance, if I can get this for 100 bucks, it's more worth it.

BUT on the other hand we must not forget that AM3 motherboards cost a *** load more then Intel's 775. So the price is balanced at the end of the day.

So overall, Q8200 Vs. Athlon II X4? - Who wins?
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October 21, 2009 9:49:39 PM

godbrother said:
Fan boy... fan boy... fan boy :whistle: 

I hope you were sarcastic... :fou:  I was being ironic because of Intel's ridiculous pricing...
October 21, 2009 9:56:25 PM

Cryslayer80 said:
I hope you were sarcastic... :fou:  I was being ironic because of Intel's ridiculous pricing...


Yes I was :) 
October 21, 2009 10:08:26 PM

Hey Godbrother, Ive seen AM3 Motherboards as cheap as $60.00 at Newegg, so I dont know where that *** load of money is coming from.
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October 21, 2009 10:33:30 PM

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=106&p2=52

According to that, the x4 620 wins 15 and the q8200 wins 18. Both cpus are practically identical so look at the other stuff that comes with it.

In this case the x4 620 is much cheaper overall and has an obvious upgrade path. Anyone with a brain would choose the x4 620 over the q8200 now. My personal belief is that the OP will choose the Q8200 because he wants to buy intel.
October 21, 2009 10:41:12 PM

jennyh said:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=106&p2=52

According to that, the x4 620 wins 15 and the q8200 wins 18. Both cpus are practically identical so look at the other stuff that comes with it.

In this case the x4 620 is much cheaper overall and has an obvious upgrade path. Anyone with a brain would choose the x4 620 over the q8200 now. My personal belief is that the OP will choose the Q8200 because he wants to buy intel.


If we're looking at benchmarks, anyone with a brain can see that the 8200 wins 3 more than the 620. So based on performance benchmarks, you'd be an idiot to buy the 620 over the q8200, right? You can question intelligence all you want, but it all comes down to context.

To the OP, if you want to future-proof (which is moot anyway), you'll probably want to get the 620 because of its socket. And to be completely honest, only losing 3 benchmarks to the Q8200 at that price isn't bad at all. My next build will probably be a dev webserver using the 620. :) 
October 21, 2009 10:56:56 PM

Using those same anandtech charts it looks like the q6600 at stock is about the same as well. Though chances are you won't find any new for sale, perhaps used.
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October 21, 2009 11:15:12 PM

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If we're looking at benchmarks, anyone with a brain can see that the 8200 wins 3 more than the 620. So based on performance benchmarks, you'd be an idiot to buy the 620 over the q8200, right? You can question intelligence all you want, but it all comes down to context.


Not really. I mean if these were the only two cpu's available and you simply had to have the best then sure you'd take the 8200 at any price premium. That isn't exactly the case though is it?

If you want to take the best at the price point? Let's compare the X4 630 to the Q8200 :-

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/default.aspx?p=105&p2=52

X4 630 wins 21, Q8200 wins 10. Thats at the same price alone.

So on p/p the 620 really walks all over the q8200, and on performance at the same price the x4 630 walks all over the Q8200. The summary of it is, the Q8200 is not worth buying under any circumstance, and that is what I'm trying to get across here. I'm not saying the q8200 is bad btw - it's not its a decent enough cpu, it's just overpriced compared to the equivalent AMD.
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October 21, 2009 11:22:47 PM

you can OC the q8200 to about 2.9-3ghz.. after that its no go because it has a max 7x multiplier
stock is 7x333.. max obtainable without crazyness= 7x425 with good motherboard = aprox 3ghz.

the older q6600 that came with a 9x multiplier

most people overclock by going from 266x9 to something like 400x8
my abit motherboard seems stable to about 455 but it runs abit hot.. so I usually run it at 400x8 =3.2ghz

I definitely would buy the amd over the q8200, but you are probably better off waiting than buying any intel socket 775 unless its a good sale.
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October 21, 2009 11:24:50 PM

lucuis said:
Using those same anandtech charts it looks like the q6600 at stock is about the same as well. Though chances are you won't find any new for sale, perhaps used.


They are all very closely matched but tbh you will pay more for a second hand Q6600 even yet. I am seriously looking at selling my Q6600 on ebay and buying an X4 620, probably making a small profit and having a very slightly faster cpu.
October 21, 2009 11:30:05 PM

godbrother said:
Fan boy... fan boy... fan boy :whistle: 


no joke
October 21, 2009 11:56:55 PM

jennyh said:

So on p/p the 620 really walks all over the q8200, and on performance at the same price the x4 630 walks all over the Q8200. The summary of it is, the Q8200 is not worth buying under any circumstance, and that is what I'm trying to get across here. I'm not saying the q8200 is bad btw - it's not its a decent enough cpu, it's just overpriced compared to the equivalent AMD.


Agreed. p/p the Q8200 pretty much loses to anything out there.
October 22, 2009 4:24:19 AM

jennyh said:
They are all very closely matched but tbh you will pay more for a second hand Q6600 even yet. I am seriously looking at selling my Q6600 on ebay and buying an X4 620, probably making a small profit and having a very slightly faster cpu.


I'll take it... Gimmy a price :) 
October 22, 2009 2:54:45 PM

I wouldn't bother with the Q8200. It doesn't support visualization and is a very poor overclocker. The best bang for your buck between the Athlon X4 620 and Intel Q8200 would be the Athlon X4 620, plus you'll get to utilize DDR3 memory. You can use DDR3 on the Q8200, bu there's not that many LGA 775 boards out there that support DDR3.

I have the Q8200 and highly regret getting it, although I've had it for almost a year now and got it for only $90 (half the original price when it first came out). Now I can't run XP Mode in Windows 7. Anyone wanna trade a Q8200 for a X4 620?
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