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April 23, 2011 6:15:36 PM

I'm gaming primary I currently have a 750GB SG and it gets the job done I don't find that I'm running out of room but more won't hurt me, the real question is would an SSD be noticeable better then a VelociRaptor for gaming?

I have support for SATA III so I would plan on getting a HDD that supports it also (Vertex 3 etc)

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April 23, 2011 9:27:20 PM

SATA III is irrelevant for hard drives (and even a lot of SSDs) because the drives themselves aren't fast enough to be bottlenecked by SATA II.

The reason you pay extra for a Velociraptor is because of it's faster access time - about 2-3X faster than a standard hard drive. But an SSD has access times that are about 100X faster, so obviously the performance improvement you get from a Velociraptor is going to be pretty small compared to that of an SSD.

But in most games the only difference you'll see is in the time it takes to start it up. Once most games are running they don't spend a lot of time accessing the disk, so disk speeds are largely irrelevant. But if you find your game pausing to load new scenes, that's the kind of thing that could see improvement with a faster drive.
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April 23, 2011 10:09:05 PM

The Velicoraptor is the better option. I have an SSD that has been less than reliable and the difference in performance is next to nothing in terms of real world performance. Thanks to the cache on the HDD and Win 7 using Superfetch there is little to be gained by the SSD but a lot to lose in terms of dollar per GB cost.
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April 23, 2011 11:02:32 PM

sowexly said:
I'm gaming primary I currently have a 750GB SG and it gets the job done I don't find that I'm running out of room but more won't hurt me, the real question is would an SSD be noticeable better then a VelociRaptor for gaming?

I have support for SATA III so I would plan on getting a HDD that supports it also (Vertex 3 etc)


The velociraptors were good in their time. Primarily because the 10k rotation gave them better random access time. That is what the OS mostly does. Sequential throughput was not significantly better than the more modern 1tb drives. That is because the 1tb drives are denser, and can transfer more data per revolution..

For games, you are probably more interested in sequential transfer, primarily for level loading.
The newer gen3 ssd's will be sometimes limited by a sata 2 interface. If you have sata3, look at one of the new gen3 drives. I would look at the Intel 510 drives. They are particularly good at data transfer, perhaps twice what a conventional hard drive can do. The Intel drives have had a lower return rate in the past, and I would trust them a bit more for a trouble free product.
http://www.behardware.com/articles/810-6/components-ret...
April 23, 2011 11:05:30 PM

So SSD for booting and Velociraptor for loading games?

I only want to remove the loading times of games really (sounds picky) so I think the utmost speed would be best.
a c 415 G Storage
April 23, 2011 11:21:27 PM

Put whatever you can afford to on an SSD, and anything that won't fit within your budget onto a Velociraptor...
April 23, 2011 11:24:55 PM

SSD, now Velociraptor are a joke. Buy an SSD and a WD caviar green 2TB. This is what I got >:D 
April 23, 2011 11:30:03 PM

SSDs are good for running programs, they are really worth it IMO. If like me you are impatient, it's the way to go >XD

And forget Velociraptor, they are more a name than anything else now.

SSD can be purchased for dirt cheap now. Get 2 60GB in raid 0 and be prepared to be blown away, I would not go back to hard drive for running my programs, lets not forget the click click click after 6 months of use.

Don't know for you, but for me it kind of play on my nerves >:p 
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April 23, 2011 11:37:39 PM

sowexly said:
So SSD for booting and Velociraptor for loading games?

I only want to remove the loading times of games really (sounds picky) so I think the utmost speed would be best.


For loading games, use the Intel 510 ssd. 120gb is fast, the 240gb is a bit faster.
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April 24, 2011 12:29:55 AM

sowexly said:
So SSD for booting and Velociraptor for loading games?

I only want to remove the loading times of games really (sounds picky) so I think the utmost speed would be best.

This is my exact setup :) 

I run an OCZ Vertex 2 for OS & Apps, VRaptor for Games and Samsung Spinpoint 1TB for Storage (User folders, personal files, etc.).
April 24, 2011 2:16:41 AM

Why wouldn't I wait for the Vertex 3 to be available if the read and write are ~500MB/s
I believe I would need to put Vertex 2's into RAID 0 to match it...

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April 24, 2011 2:21:32 AM
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I was just stating I was running a SSD & VRaptor. I would go with the Vertex 3 for your setup.
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April 24, 2011 2:28:10 AM

raptor is way more reliable!
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April 24, 2011 4:40:04 AM

SR-71 Blackbird said:
raptor is way more reliable!
I personally ignore blanket statements like this unless you can back them up with some evidence.
May 1, 2011 4:37:03 PM

Sorry for this very late reply, I don't like vague statements like is just is. On the other hand the lower returns of Intel SSDs is nice to see but Vertex 3 does have a very sizable lead in speed.
May 8, 2011 2:13:01 AM

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