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July 23, 2009 5:58:04 PM

Hello I have just finished figuring out what to put in my new PC. I have a unibody MacBook with boot camp and I love it, but the nvidia 9400m is no beast of a graphics chip. Since this my first time putting together my own system, i'm not 100% sure everything i've picked out is compatible. here is what i've picked out.

Motherboard 79.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU & GPU Combo 369.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Ram 95.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case 69.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Power Supply 49.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD 74.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD Drive 28.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Speakers 9.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mouse 9.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

KeyBoard 9.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Wifi Card 24.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I think everything will work when I throw it all into the case. But I don't want to turn on the computer for the first time and have it blow up in my face... thanks

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July 23, 2009 6:09:45 PM

What was in that combo? They probably refreshed it and it got a new number, but right now that link returns an error.

You only need triple channel ram for an i7 and that board is AMD so i assume you arent trying to do an i7 build so this ram will work.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Need to know what graphics card you are getting before i can suggest a PSU but i definitely advise against the Apevia. Your PSU should be from one of these five brands: Corsair, PC Power & Cooling, Antec, Seasonic, OCZ
July 23, 2009 6:21:32 PM

yeah im not going i7. i chose amd and ati because the give more bang for your buck... anyways i had a amd phenom II x4 955 with an xfx radeon hd 4890 graphics card
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July 23, 2009 6:31:43 PM

What resolution monitor are you going to be using? And are you planning to crossfire eventually? Unfortunately some of the AMD ASUS mobo combos have been ending lately, hopefully the one with the 790gx will come back.
July 23, 2009 6:35:30 PM

i have a 1080p monitor and i do not plan to use crossfire in this pc. i wanted to find a mother board with 2 pci-express 2.0 slots but non that fit in my budget fit my ddr3 ram and were not open box
July 23, 2009 6:45:30 PM

Okay, in which case we can cut down the price of that PSU quite a bit, an EA650 is plenty to power a single 4890 and will save you $33 over the price of that PSU you had selected
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Hopefully better motherboard combos will show up soon but right now that is the best value if you never intend to crossfire.
July 23, 2009 6:45:45 PM

+1 to changing the RAM to a dual channel kit like suggested above. Like hunter315 said, the RAM you picked is triple channel and designed for the Intel i7 CPU. The AMD chips have a dual-channel RAM controller, so you want to get a kit with an even number of RAM sticks.

I also agree with ditching that POS Apevia PSU. You certainly don't want to try to save a buck on the PSU since a cheap PSU will cause problems ranging from system instability to fried components. Since the motherboard you chose doesn't support crossfire, a quality 500W - 600W PSU is all you need. Here's a few to consider:

PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500D 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i7 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $74.99

SeaSonic M12II SS-500GM 500W ATX12V 2.2 /EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $89.99 - $10 MIR

Antec earthwatts EA500 500W Continuous Power ATX12V v2.0 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $74.99

OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i7 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $58.99 - $25 MIR

OCZ Fatal1ty OCZ550FTY 550W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $74.99 - $25 MIR
July 23, 2009 6:47:19 PM

i chose my first psu because it was half the price, it must have been a one day deal
July 23, 2009 7:30:36 PM

thank you, besides that are there any other things to consider???
July 23, 2009 7:42:39 PM

+1 @ shortstuff, although I'd put OCZ a notch below those others, and perhaps add Enermax to replace it. I've never read a non-negative competent technical review of an Apevia PSU; generally they melt or smoke when loaded (so yes, they are steaming piles). Even their newest "Warlock" units are overrated.
July 23, 2009 7:51:30 PM

i think i am going to go with the OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W for my computer and changed the ram to 4gb because there was no 6gb ddr3 dual channel ram i could find. let me know if you can find some.
July 23, 2009 7:54:46 PM
July 23, 2009 7:56:10 PM

Onus said:
+1 @ shortstuff, although I'd put OCZ a notch below those others, and perhaps add Enermax to replace it. I've never read a non-negative competent technical review of an Apevia PSU; generally they melt or smoke when loaded (so yes, they are steaming piles). Even their newest "Warlock" units are overrated.

I agree that OCZ is a notch below manufacturers like Corsair, PC Power & Cooling, Seasonic, etc..., but they're still light years ahead of the Apevia POS. :) 
July 23, 2009 8:02:20 PM

The RAM can still be improved. The kit you chose has a pretty slow CAS 9 speed. You can get faster CAS 7 RAM for not much more $.

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1600EB4GK - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $75.99 - $10 MIR

Just keep in mind that this RAM runs at 1.9v, so it will be undervolted and underclocked out of the box for compatibility reasons. You'll need to go into the BIOS and manually set the RAM speed/timings/voltage to the manufacturer's specs (DDR3 1600/7-6-6-24 timings @ 1.9v).
July 23, 2009 8:05:27 PM

now... final issue, when I throw all this into the case properly and start it up, the whole thing won't fry up in my face. I can just plop in the install dvd and then put the drivers on and be on my way?...
July 23, 2009 8:09:51 PM

That will depend entirely on how much time you spend reading the motherboard, case, and PSU owners manuals before rushing into the build. I'm surprised at how many first time builders can't be bothered reading the manual then wonder why their computer won't work. Of course there's always the possibility of DOA components, but the parts above are quality components so you shouldn't have any trouble.

This checklist should help you avoid some of the most common mistakes:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261145-31-read-postin...
July 23, 2009 8:10:27 PM

Y is the OCZ better than the G.SKILL?
July 23, 2009 8:12:35 PM

huntern321 said:
Y is the OCZ better than the G.SKILL?

Because it has a faster (numerically lower) CAS rating which means it's faster. 7-6-6-24 is considerably faster than 9-9-9-24.
July 23, 2009 8:14:41 PM

thanks for the checklist, i'll use it, but i mean that all the parts are compatible.
July 23, 2009 8:16:47 PM

huntern321 said:
thanks for the checklist, i'll use it, but i mean that all the parts are compatible.

Yes, all the parts are compatible.
July 23, 2009 8:19:13 PM

one last thing, just making sure that this can run the newest games at 1080p with decent if not full settings
July 23, 2009 8:25:27 PM

You'll have to check one of the many GPU benchmarks out there for the specific games you are planning on playing, but the 4890 is a good GPU that will work very well at that resolution.
July 23, 2009 8:26:19 PM

And generally OCZ is regarded as better quality than GSkill in the computer community. Also, if you pay $10 for speakers they'll sound like $10. I'd suggest some better (and more powerful) speakers for a much-improved gaming experience (having bought junk 4W speakers myself before).
July 23, 2009 8:30:41 PM

shortstuff_mt said:
You'll have to check one of the many GPU benchmarks out there for the specific games you are planning on playing, but the 4890 is a good GPU that will work very well at that resolution.

yeah, but the benchmarks are mixed
July 23, 2009 8:32:48 PM

OOOH!!! another thing. I didn't get OEM versions of anything because i want all the cables included. are there any extra cables i need to purchase.
July 23, 2009 8:39:26 PM

KyleSTL said:
And generally OCZ is regarded as better quality than GSkill in the computer community. Also, if you pay $10 for speakers they'll sound like $10. I'd suggest some better (and more powerful) speakers for a much-improved gaming experience (having bought junk 4W speakers myself before).

I guess i'll get these http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
there still very cheap, but i don't need amazing sound quality for my computer and i hardly ever turn up the volume to the point where i will hear the crudeness of the sound quality
July 23, 2009 8:49:30 PM

all righty then, time to do the math on this mess... hehey! not quite perfect, but still very good. only 19 bucks over the 800 budget i was aiming for. thank you so much
July 23, 2009 8:53:43 PM

One last thing to consider - I, personally, don't really trust Hitachi hard drives. The price is very low for a 1TB drive, but you might want to consider a HD with a proven reliability track record like the WD6401AALS if you don't NEED 1TB of storage.

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $74.99
July 23, 2009 8:54:58 PM

now that I looked at it one the last time, is any way i can improve the motherboard, or is it good where it is?
July 23, 2009 8:55:54 PM

shortstuff_mt said:
One last thing to consider - I, personally, don't really trust Hitachi hard drives. The price is very low for a 1TB drive, but you might want to consider a HD with a proven reliability track record like the WD6401AALS if you don't NEED 1TB of storage.

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $74.99

what about a WD 1 TB Drive
July 23, 2009 8:59:11 PM

That would be even better, but would add $20 to the build.

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drives - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $94.99

The extra $20 is worth it IMO. The WD Black drives have a 5 year warranty, while the Hitachi drive is 3 years. The Hitachi drive also seems to have a fairly high DOA rate.
July 23, 2009 9:03:04 PM

oh well... one andrew Jackson wont hurt that much :) 
July 23, 2009 9:11:50 PM

so will that motherboard possibly bog down the rest of my system?
I would like one with 2 pci express 2.0 slots just incase so all i have to do is replace the power supply rather than the PSU and Motherboard? but that is not priority.
July 23, 2009 9:17:23 PM

Adding a motherboard that supports crossfire is going to raise the price even further. I really like the MA770T-UD3P and it gets good reviews also:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/mainboards/display/gig...

"...during our test session, we didn’t reveal any serious issues that could give anyone the reason to underestimate Gigabyte MA770T-UD3P. Especially, since it performs and overclocks just as good as Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P, for instance, that belongs to a much higher price range."

I don't see any reason to change the motherboard. You have a good system lined up. You don't need to keep second-guessing the components. Just pull the trigger. :) 
July 23, 2009 9:22:48 PM

ok, thank you you've been an enormous help to me.
July 24, 2009 1:01:18 AM

I ordered my parts and can't wait for them come in the mail. me so happy :) !!!
July 24, 2009 1:30:48 AM

Very nice. Enjoy it!
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