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July 25, 2009 8:25:36 AM

Little bit of info:
Building another system to primarily handle gaming, looking to max out performance but keep the budget reasonable. I am using two monitors at 1920x1200 resolution.

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS M4A79T Deluxe AM3 DDR3 AMD 790FX ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2x in Raid 0
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2x (8gb total)
OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1600EB4GK - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

2x in Crossfire
XFX HD-489A-ZDEC Radeon HD 4890 Xtreme 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OR

2x in SLI
EVGA 896-P3-1170-AR GeForce GTX 275 896MB 448-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

My questions are. What is the better route for video cards in your opinions. Also... am I really losing anything building the 955 for gaming vs an i7 920 setup? How about a Phenom 945 since it seems like the 955 inventory is out at most places?
July 25, 2009 10:28:36 AM

1) that mobo can't do SLI, only crossfire.

2) 8GB of ram SLOWS gaming.

3) getting dual cards at that level is pointless at this time as the 5870 comes out in September and since it will only cost around $250, why waste $200 on a soon to be obsolete card.?

4) since you want max gaming performance for the money, it's best to stick with the 955 BE over the i7 920, unless you have a microcenter near you, then get the $200 i7 920 and a $170 mobo off Newegg and you've equalled out the prices somewhat.

5) the reason why the 955 is hard to get is because the 965 is coming out soon, probably in September with the 5870 and possibly the 8xx chipset.
July 25, 2009 12:02:16 PM

too much ram , 4 is enough .
The game wont use more system ram , than the ram thats on the gfx cards
4 gig is plenty

RAID zero is not much use to a gamer either . It will not boost anything except shorten loading times by a few seconds , and in online gaming where the limit is net bandwidth RAID 0 will do nothing but double your chances of catastrophic failure and losing your data .




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July 25, 2009 2:38:47 PM

I appreciate your response. I guess my main question is, since you said get the i7 if I can get it for the microcenter price. What is the i7 giving me though for gaming that the 955 BE isn't?

That's what I get for posting at 4am... I like to dual boot into linux as well, and ATI cards seem to be finicky in that environment from my past experience. Is there a decent SLI AMD board out there yet for the AM3 socket that also supports DDR3? Not lookin to do a hybrid AM2/AM2+/AM3 board that only does DDR2. Or if I'm in a crossroads and want to run NVidia over ATI, I should just shell out the extra coin and go i7?
July 25, 2009 4:40:55 PM

^ the i7 has a higher IPC and better overclocking potential (meaning that the i7 will take longer to become a bottleneck to a graphics card.)

it also has double the threads ( so each thread handle's an instruction, and there are two threads assigned to a core in the i7, the 955 doesn't have this however) which makes multitasking, and will make future gaming, a lot faster.

No there isn't a decent SLI AMD board.
July 25, 2009 5:41:33 PM

expected release date of the PhenomII x4 965 BE is August 13th

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/display/20090710144950...

No SLI AM3 socket motherboards, but there are several AM3/AM2+/AM2 SLI or AM2+/AM2 SLI boards available.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Some of the P55 Intel boards will come with both SLI and crossfire available just like the X58 boards.


July 25, 2009 5:41:44 PM

I guess my next question is... good sli/crossfire board for an i7?
July 25, 2009 6:26:17 PM

^ most have SLI/Crossfire, I suppose the ASUS P6T is the cheapest if you want a better brand, or the Asrock X58 Extreme if you want to save some $.

July 26, 2009 11:56:03 PM

go i920 do
x58-ud3r
6gb of ddr3
4890 1gb

Raid 0 is faster in windows, for unraring,etc
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