500 euro budget gaming pc

[jonno208]

Purchase date: with in a week

System usage: gaming, web, movies

Parts not required: mouse, keyboard, screen, optical drives

PREFERRED WEBSITE: www.dabs.ie or www.komplett.ie

Preferred brand: Intel(dont want amd)

Overclocking: maby. can it harm your processor???

Extra comment: Not to woried about noise. Needs a good graphic card.

I would perfer Nvidia graphic card.I have chosen a intel core2duo 2.8GHz(what is the max overclock rate??). 500GB hard drive is sutible. Dont know how much RAM i need. I have no idea where you get how much power your system needs to run. I dont need a sound card it can be intagrated into the mobo.

Thanks in advance to any body that answers

 

[tisello]

wich games are you going to play? And with a intel core 2 dou 2.8ghz you could probably OC it to around 3.6ghz if you got atleast 800mhz ram without doing any harm to it. And dont choose a nvidia card because you get less preformance for the price. I would recommend the Radeon HD 4650 1gb wich is a excellent card unless you have hopes for playing crysis on highest fro 500€, wich you wont.

I would also ask you why you dont want AMD? the amd 2 core processors are much cheaper but comes with the same preformance, if i were you, with the 500€ cap i would never get a intel processor. If you run vista you will need 4gb of ram with atleast 800mhz clock speed. If you run xp you will do with 2gb.

Take some cheap case no need for a uber chase that cools like a refridirator if you aint going to spend more money on your computer. But dont take the worst either!

For the rest of the parts i dont know so much about but i would guess you could make it with a 500W PSU and a pretty fair MOBO. When you take a MOBO take one with integriated sound card, the most have those but not all! Dont do the mistake i did with not checking that first luckily i could trade it in and switch it for another.

But however if you would like to go just a little over 500€ i would take the Radeon HD 4870 1gb instead since it's quite much better, but quite much more expensive aswell.

As i said

Choose a AMD processor
A Radeon 4650 1gb GPU
And a decent MOBO
500W PSU
4gb 800mhz RAM (vista) 2gb 800 mhz (XP)
Fair chassi
500gb SATA harddrive
well, a fair dvd burner.

Here is links and a calculation:

CPU http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=451987 have better OC then the intel i think. 3.4 shouldn't be a problem with that one.

GPU http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=442781 a really good one for a low price

PSU http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=337116 acutally 630W wich is great

MOBO http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=480481 a great mobo with really sweet OC features

CASE http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=323083 my current case and i love it

Memory (vista) http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=338074 great ones

Memory (xp) http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=344667 they are good aswell

HDD http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=352541 the one i have, it's really good

Floppy drive http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=343919 i guess it works

Well that pretty much covers it and the total cost of it is actually only 450€. So if you would like to go with a 4850 1gb GPU instead it would end at 520€ wich aint so much over your budget but still gives some better preformance. And if you have XP the cost would be 500,61 € with the 4850 wich i think you can handle

All this is extruding fract costs. And if you live in sweden i would really recommend buying all this stuff from komplett.se. They have better offers and they are really fast!

Hope my opinion helped.

But if you under no circumstances can take a AMD processor you can choose the one you already chosen. It will be a little bit more expensive and it will have the same preformance. NOTEICE, if you go with a intel processor you cant take the MOBO i've chosen for you!

 

[tisello]

if you want a 4870 it would cost you around 550€ with the HDD, PSU and the MOBO i've chosen for you. If you want a 4870 1gb i would reccomend you to buy a 500gb hdd instead and a cheaper MOBO. I think 630W would be recommended but if you want you can choose a 500W PSU aswell.

 

[tisello]

if you are from sweden you could buy http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=323787, it costs about 550€ wich is somewhat close to your budget. But there you also got a intel processor and a 650W PSU. And it's sure that everything works out with that one. A good insurance =)

 

[jonno208]

Thanks. I just never wanted a AMD because i am not sure what are the high end amd chips and what are the lowend chips. All your choices were topclass
but i dont think i will spend as much on the case and i will go for the 4870.

 

[myrddral]

you really should go for a better videocard and a lower cpu.

my choices:

MSI Radeon HD 4770 512MB GDDR5 € 99.00 (Directx 10.1)

Intel Pentium Dual Core E5200 2,5GHz € 61.01 (Can go to 3,4ghz with stock cooler)

ASUS P5Q PRO, P45, Socket-775 € 108.00 (2xPCI-E for Crossfire later if want)

OCZ DDR2 PC6400 4GB KIT, Titanium € 48.00 (CL4-4-4-15 timings!)

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 1TB SATA € 79.00

OCZ 500W PSU ModXStream Pro € 59.00 (modular - less cable)

this is EUR 454.01 and you can choose a case. im within your budget

 

[tisello]

you really should go for a better videocard and a lower cpu.

The 4770 isnt that much better then the 4650, really. The 4650 have gotten great rewards for beeing such a priceworthy card. Especially the 1gb. I'm not saying the 4770 is worse, but i am saying it's much less priceworthy. If you can spend just a few € over your budget you will get the 4870 if you cut down on the case and the HDD. I also take back what i said about the MODO, dont get a cheaper if you're sticking with AMD because that MOBO got great stuff in it for a resonable price.

And you can stick with your good amd CPU that i choosed aswell!

A 1TB hdd is pretty stupid imo. I can never seem to fill my 250GB. Because i quite often delete a lot of stuff that i never use

//Tisello

 

[ill b ben]

WTF Tisello????? your kidding right, a 4770 eats the 4650, and again wtf the 1 gig version aswell.... right.not even going into that 1. The minimum a gamer wants is a 4670/9600gso (id go for 4670 since the price/power consumption is right) But seeing as u have a 500 euro budget you can do better. Go for what Myrddral said, but save some on the mobo get a p43 chipset for around 70 euros (tops) like asus p5ql, and go for a Wd Caviar black 640 gig for that price less space , more speed.
Go for the cheepest case like 20 euros and put the money i you just saved on the mobo etc on a 4870 or 4890, And use windows 7 if ur broke and need a OS

 

[jonno208]

Il be getting a 4850
And tisello has a higher rating than you ill be ben no offence but i will trust tisello

 

[hunter315]

tisello is wrong, the 4770 is matched with the 4850 but draws less power and produces slightly less heat, the 4850 is significantly better than even the 4670, and currently cheaper than the 4770.

 

[ill b ben]

Jonno208 do what ever you want , please do buy the 4650 just know that a 4670 (wich is bout 20% faster then a 4650) in crossfire BARELY tops a 4850/4770

 

[ill b ben]

silly rating system, no offence taken.. Look at benchmarks if you ''doubt'' me

 

[hunter315]

See this chart
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-2009/Left4Dead,1184.html
The 4670 gets 29.6FPS and the 4850 gets 54. Even in crossfire 2 4670s cannot catch the 4850, crossfire adds at best brings you to about 180% of one card, 200% like you would expect so the 4670's in CF would get at the best 53.3 FPS likely lower. I would suggest this card
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=442785

 

[jonno208]

See this chart
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-charts-2009/Left4Dead,1184.html
The 4670 gets 29.6FPS and the 4850 gets 54. Even in crossfire 2 4670s cannot catch the 4850, crossfire adds at best brings you to about 180% of one card, 200% like you would expect so the 4670's in CF would get at the best 53.3 FPS likely lower. I would suggest this card
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=442785

What about this one the 4870??
http://www.komplett.ie/k/ki.aspx?sku=361773

 

[hunter315]

even stronger than a 4850, about a 10% to 15% difference in performance in most games, left for dead isnt graphically intensive so it shows a 33% performance difference in that benchmark, if you have the PSU and budget for it then get the 4870. I would suggest this psu instead, you can see the difference in specs in these two images the corsair is a better brand and even though it is rated 80 watts lower is capable of providing almost the same power because it is rated at continuous power not peak power.
http://www.axpertec.com/Product-powersupply_simplepower_630W.asp
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ShowImage.aspx?CurImage=17-139-004-23.jpg&Image=17-139-004-19.jpg%2c17-139-004-18.jpg%2c17-139-004-13.jpg%2c17-139-004-14.jpg%2c17-139-004-15.jpg%2c17-139-004-16.jpg%2c17-139-004-20.jpg%2c17-139-004-21.jpg%2c17-139-004-22.jpg%2c17-139-004-23.jpg%2c17-139-004-24.jpg&S7ImageFlag=0&WaterMark=1&Item=N82E16817139004&Depa=1&Description=CORSAIR%20CMPSU-550VX%20550W%20Compatible%20with%20Core%20i7%20Power%20Supply

 

[Fohtey]

500 Euros... What is that, about $10,000 in the states? ;^) There are some great MB for around $70-100 U.S. and good, fast Intel Core2 Duo and Quads to be had for a very reasonable price. HDD are cheap now that SSD's are coming into their own so you can get them for a song. Video cards, if you like NVIDIA, their 250 or 260 cards are somewhat reasonable all things considered: EVGA has their 250 GTS for $125 US on the 'Egg and I saw a 260 for about 185.

 

[tisello]

ehm i can honestly say that it was me who was wrong. I was thinking about the right card but naming it wrong sry.

What i really meant is the 4850.

I know i caused some problems with this and i'm really sorry and hope you have understanding =(

 

[ill b ben]

@ hunter the 4670 cossfired is a tad better (from my expierence) altho it depends on the games seing as its crossfire, i only made that point to show out that even a 4670 (wich is better then a 4650) crossfire just catches up to a 4850.

and with that budget u can go 4870

and 500 euros like = 550 ish dollars at most

its ok tisello.. he didnt buy it yet so no worrys

 

[jonno208]

@ hunter the 4670 cossfired is a tad better (from my expierence) altho it depends on the games seing as its crossfire, i only made that point to show out that even a 4670 (wich is better then a 4650) crossfire just catches up to a 4850.

and with that budget u can go 4870

and 500 euros like = 550 ish dollars at most

its ok tisello.. he didnt buy it yet so no worrys

500 euro= $710

 

[ill b ben]

wow euro going so strong/dollar weak huh, my bad on that one just rememberd when we just got the euro it barly topped the dollar

 

[jonno208]

Well i have it all together every thing seems to be working. I am just waiting for the OS.