MSI 9500GT issues

hey everybody
to start with i'm not that gamer
i've just buy an graphic card (yeah well guess) the MSI n9500GT 512Mo GDDR2, i know it's not that good card but at least i think (in a normal case) the card handle most of the games released till today!

my computer specification is :
Mobo -> Asus P5GC-MX/1333
CPU -> Pentium D 3.4Ghz 4MO L2
Ram -> 3072Mo DDR2 667Mhzcache
PSU -> 400Watts WitneSS

my problem is i can't play smoothely on a regular game such as Call Of Duty:World at War.
the graphics displayed works fine but it's so slow....even when i play on a low resolution with no AA and low textures details :S

or better sometimes the game starts good but after few secondes start lagging........and after few secondes the game run fast then the speed it meant to be played

so please O mighty reader please help me!

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Its probably not the graphics card. You CPU is the one holding your gaming experience back. You should consider upgrading t atleast a dual core.

Reply to AKM880

thanks AKM880 for the answer me too i'm suspecting the CPU and the PSU...

Reply to aleo

Hi there!

I don't think your CPU is holding you back cuz The minimum requirement is a Pentium 4 3Ghz .Yours is obviously better than that.
Not even the Graphic card.

Something else is holding you back.
Which OS BTW?

Reply to shubham1401

oh!
i am using Windows XP SP3!

Reply to aleo

dump that CPU for a better cpu - your motherboard WILL support atleast the 65nm core 2 duo's (NOT quads) - Core 2 Duo E6xxx, E4xxx, E2xxx and E1xxx so check those options out

also disable the AA in the game - dunno why its enabled at 4x by default (if i remember correctly)

your video card isnt that powerful so dont expect miracles there either

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Reply to apache_lives

Yes it is enabled at 4x at default.
Playing that game currently.

Reply to shubham1401

well i see thanks anyway!
the motherboard support the 45nm!!
so the trick is to change the CPU...yeah it's time to do it!

Reply to aleo

I'm going to go with a CPU problem as well, but not the one already mentioned. The P4s that ran over 3GHz were very hot. If this is an older build, the chances are high that the heatsink is now coated in dust, preventing it from working properly. If this is the case, the CPU is throttling itself to prevent it from getting to hot. Opening the case and cleaning the sink might fix your issue.

Another problem is that 9500GT. With slow DDR2 memory, I'm not even sure its faster then a 7600GT. A 9500GT isn't anything more then an 8600GT. An 8600GT is only mildly faster then a 7600GT. These 9500/8600GTs used faster DDR3 memory, so you are using something as fast as 7600GT, if even that. Check your temps, clean your sink, and possibly get a real gaming card.

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Reply to 4745454b

hola my friend!
i've installed the EVGA Precision tool, and i just see that Graphic Card Temperature is 52C° (about 126F°)
is this normal??

Reply to aleo

should be fine, GPUs run a lot hotter then CPUs.

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Reply to 4745454b

Temps are fine .

But my point is that the CPU is enough for that game.

What is the amp on the 12v rail?

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Reply to shubham1401

shubham1401 wrote :

Temps are fine .

But my point is that the CPU is enough for that game.

What is the amp on the 12v rail?

well how can i know this amp??
sorry for distrurbing!

Reply to aleo

aleo it will be in the specs for your PSU

Reply to carickw

i had the 9500gt on another machine i built for a client with a dual core processor and i can tell u it ran cod 4 and cod 5 Perfectly
get a new cpu simple mebe new psu lol
a 8600 gt can run cod 4 -5 on almost full settings

Message edited by viper200 on 08-17-2009 at 03:46:20 PM

Reply to viper200

according to the dc output max chart:
+12v -> 10A
tnx viper can please tell me which CPU did you use with the 9500GT
and also which PSU (Watt,brand...)

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Reply to aleo

10A is way too low for a 400w PSU.
My old generic 400w had 18Amps on +12v rail and the current one has 30A on the 12v rail(also a 400w unit)

Better get a new PSU first.
Cuz even if you change the proccy you will definitely need to change the PSU.

I recommend a Corsair CX400 for you.its gr8 lil thing and even powers my 9800GT.
Some ppl even have a GTX 260 on that!

But you can go for a cheaper unit also(like OCZ,Coolermaster etc etc) if the budget doesn't allows a CX400.

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Reply to shubham1401

All those suggesting that a CPU change will improve performance with that card are talking cobblers, that card is good for 1080 video playback but absolutely crap for gaming a 9600GT/GSO 8800/9800 series card would be a much better idea but would still benefit from/require a PSU change.

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shubham1401 wrote :

10A is way too low for a 400w PSU.
My old generic 400w had 18Amps on +12v rail and the current one has 30A on the 12v rail(also a 400w unit)

Better get a new PSU first.
Cuz even if you change the proccy you will definitely need to change the PSU.

I recommend a Corsair CX400 for you.its gr8 lil thing and even powers my 9800GT.
Some ppl even have a GTX 260 on that!

But you can go for a cheaper unit also(like OCZ,Coolermaster etc etc) if the budget doesn't allows a CX400.

thank you!
i'il try to find a new PSU with a higher amps on +12v rail!
also i'il ask some friends to test my card on theire boards!!
thank you everyone i'il feedback you soon!

Reply to aleo

Don't worry.
According to ppl having that card they were able to play WaW at 1024X768 with 2x AA(googled it).
The card will be good enough for that game.

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Reply to shubham1401

shubham1401 wrote :

Don't worry.
According to ppl having that card they were able to play WaW at 1024X768 with 2x AA(googled it).
The card will be good enough for that game.

Did you read the OP?

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Reply to mousemonkey

Whats OP?
(Sorry weak in English)

BTW those were the comments from ppl who have played the game with that card.No data added from my side.

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Reply to shubham1401

shubham1401 wrote :

Whats OP?
(Sorry weak in English)

BTW those were the comments from ppl who have played the game with that card.No data added from my side.

OP = Original Post, where it's stated that the game in question cannot be played, despite what others on the interwibble are saying.

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Reply to mousemonkey

Unless someone can convince me that a Q9550 is a crap CPU I shall stand by my previous statement, the 9500GT is not a gaming card in any way, shape, form or fashion.

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aleo wrote :

according to the dc output max chart:
+12v -> 10A
tnx viper can please tell me which CPU did you use with the 9500GT
and also which PSU (Watt,brand...)

1st try getting new psu just in case or try in friends pc
i had this card running with a amd 6000+ dual core 3.0
also i was running cod 4 and 5 at 1980*1080 with AA*0
an rest on high and worked fine
i know this card is a low profile card but it should run cod 4-5 np i know for a fact it can run GTA iv n medium settings at 1024*1024

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Message edited by viper200 on 08-18-2009 at 12:37:33 AM

Reply to viper200

viper200 wrote :

1st try getting new psu just in case or try in friends pc
i had this card running with a amd 6000+ dual core 3.0
also i was running cod 4 and 5 at 1980*1080 with AA*0
an rest on high and worked fine
i know this card is a low profile card but it should run cod 4-5 np i know for a fact it can run GTA iv n medium settings at 1024*1024

yeah amd 6000+ is a powerful CPU!!
thank you very much that really help!

Reply to aleo

10 amps on the 12v is nowhere near enough.

The PSU calculator recommended at least 16, so my first vote is for a new PSU. I'd also recommend a better GPU, as mousemonkey put it, the 9500gt is not a gaming card.

Reply to jedimasterben

Why the F does nobody listen? Should I write in all caps so you understand?

IF THE HEATSINK IS COVERED IN DUST, IT WON'T BE ABLE TO COOL THE CPU. THE CPU WILL TURN THE CLOCKSPEED DOWN SO THAT IT DOESN'T BURN ITSELF UP. WITH THE REDUCED CLOCK SPEED, THE GAME WON'T BE PLAYABLE. IF YOU CLEAN THE HEATSINK, THE TEMPS WILL GO DOWN, THE CPU WILL RETURN TO NORMAL SPEED, AND YOUR GAME MIGHT BE PLAYBABLE.

I know the OP checked the GPU temp, but he never said anything about the CPU temp. A new PSU might not be needed if it just needs a good cleaning.

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Reply to 4745454b

4745454b

Is correct, clean out all the dust in your case, the CPU may be throttling due to overheating.

The CPU will not play W@W at max settings, even worse is that its paired up with a 9500GT. The 9500GT is NOT a gamer's card, as stated above numerous times.

Message edited by AKM880 on 08-18-2009 at 09:32:45 AM

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4745454b wrote :

Why the F does nobody listen? Should I write in all caps so you understand?

IF THE HEATSINK IS COVERED IN DUST, IT WON'T BE ABLE TO COOL THE CPU. THE CPU WILL TURN THE CLOCKSPEED DOWN SO THAT IT DOESN'T BURN ITSELF UP. WITH THE REDUCED CLOCK SPEED, THE GAME WON'T BE PLAYABLE. IF YOU CLEAN THE HEATSINK, THE TEMPS WILL GO DOWN, THE CPU WILL RETURN TO NORMAL SPEED, AND YOUR GAME MIGHT BE PLAYBABLE.

I know the OP checked the GPU temp, but he never said anything about the CPU temp. A new PSU might not be needed if it just needs a good cleaning.

of freak!
sorry kept ya waiting !
well i've checked and everything is OK for the CPU!
no dust the fan is running and the sink is clean! :hello:

Reply to aleo

Thank you.

Any chance this machine has virus on it? It still sounds like you have something chewing up CPU cycles.

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