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So Frustrated with 4890's Availability

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August 17, 2009 8:45:22 PM

Well hello again all,

I jsut recently ordered all my parts for my new pc build and unknown to me the video card that I selected (one of the new OC 4890's from MSI) wont be available untill the 24th of August, which is holding up my whole order. So I had them cancel the video card. Then today I read where the new DX11 cards may be out on Sep 10th.... So was this fate stepping in and saving me from spend $$$ on a card that in less than a month could drop alot in price??? Who knows... But that leaves me with a question for you all.

Currently I have a 8600 GPU that um well blows BUT I was considering waiting untill the new cards come out and the old ones drop in price since it may be a lil sooner than a month away. Or whoudl I just say to heck with it and order now. lol

For some reason this is the 3rd time I have ordered a 4890 to have issues with availability or after order I get a call saying sorry we are out of that certain model. How would you feel about this? Could it be that a 4890 is not ment to be for me and perhaps Nvidia is calling me. (too bad the green dont look good with my red/black theme rofl
a b U Graphics card
August 17, 2009 9:10:57 PM

Yes, this is definitely a case of Divine Intercession, God wants you to have a DX11 graphic card for Windows7 and any new games that come out in the future that can use it. Either use your old 8600 card or buy a cheaper "placeholder" card until the new ATI Evergreen (5850/5870/5890) cards are out and benchmarked and you choose which one would be best for you. Get something like a 4850 or 9800GT for a placeholder card, then sell it to a family member or friend that doesn't need top end graphics for a $25 or so loss, they get an improved graphic card at a very low price and you get to wait until the newest card are out and benchmarked so you have the time to pick and choose which one you want.
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August 17, 2009 9:49:47 PM

Honestly, it depends on the games that you play. If you've been using an 8600 then the jump to a 4890 is very massive. Unless there is some game you're expecting to bring every top video card to its knees as of today, the price/performance of the 4890 is still a great deal.

Two other notes on the 5xxx series release:

- Don't expect massive price drops on the 4xxx series. Why? because they've already been dropping the prices for a while now in preparation for 5xxx. That, and the newly released 5xxx cards will be more expensive initially -- several months (as was the case with the 4xxx series)

- The new 5xxx GPU will debut Sept. 10th, doesn't mean that consumers will be able to ge their hands on the new cards that day. Maybe soon after but i doubt it'll be the day of, so its little longer to wait.
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a c 106 U Graphics card
August 17, 2009 9:50:34 PM

The 5870 is calling to you. You must suffer with an 8600GT for now, or get a 4850 to hold you off, and then you will be able to get the DX11 card you need.
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August 17, 2009 10:49:50 PM

Haha thanks for the replies everyone. I thought it just to be kinda weird how when I try to buy the card I keep getting turned down for one reason or another lol.

Sigh my i7 build will just have to be graphics starved for the time being I guess lol. If it werent for the type of 8600 I have maybe it would be so bad but this thing has turbo caching or some junk like that (shared mem) lol.

As for games though.. I have been attempting to ply COD4 and gmaes like that. Wanted to ply farcry, crysis(but I knew better not too) , starcraft (when it comes available... and the list goes on and on.


Anywho, thx
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August 17, 2009 10:54:24 PM

and mind use driver cleaner to get rid of any nvidia stuff thats left
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a c 266 U Graphics card
August 17, 2009 10:59:36 PM

Consider a GTX275 or 4890 from XFX or EVGA. You will then have the option to apply your purchase price to a new card within 90 days.
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August 17, 2009 11:14:53 PM

Well another turn for the worst lol. Since the card I ordered wont be in for a while and since I went through bing cash back program I now have to cancel my whole order and re order to get the savings lol.

I did not know about xfx having the ability to do the trade up program... And I thought the evga one allowed you to trade up according to the value they set for the price of the old card to the new one purchased. As in they dont care what you paid for it but it depends on the value of the card at the time you want to upgrade. Maybe I was wrong in that hmmm..
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August 17, 2009 11:53:06 PM

Does XFX allow for a trade up? Because that would be great since I just got a 4890 that should arrive on wednesday and I would rather do the 90 day step up type thing if I could than have to debate over returning it or not.
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August 18, 2009 12:55:15 AM

I am going to look into the xfx trade up thing to see whats the deal with that for sure.



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August 18, 2009 1:08:14 AM

XFX does not have any kind of step up program like evga does. What they do have is their double lifetime warranty. Just an FYI
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a c 266 U Graphics card
August 18, 2009 3:44:14 AM

OOPS! It seems that XFX does not have a trade-up program. BFG and EVGA do.
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a b U Graphics card
August 18, 2009 4:10:38 AM

EVGA has a step up program, but nVidia may not have anything to step up to in 90 days
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a c 266 U Graphics card
August 18, 2009 4:15:26 AM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
EVGA has a step up program, but nVidia may not have anything to step up to in 90 days

Very true.

I would favor XFX. Their warranty transfer makes it easier to sell the card whenever you want.

One drawback of the EVGA program is that if you bought the old card at a bargain price on sale, you only get that price to apply to the full retail price of the new card.
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a b U Graphics card
August 18, 2009 11:53:36 AM

Get at least a 4850 now, and wait a few months before you're next upgrade. Really, nothing (except Dirt2) will be out with DX11 support, and NVIDIA will eventually have to jump on the DX11 bandwagon, which will drop prices of ATI DX11 cards.
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a b U Graphics card
August 18, 2009 5:09:04 PM

gamerk316 said:
Get at least a 4850 now, and wait a few months before you're next upgrade. Really, nothing (except Dirt2) will be out with DX11 support, and NVIDIA will eventually have to jump on the DX11 bandwagon, because their old and archaic DX10 only cards, may drop prices of ATI DX11 cards.

Fixed it for you
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a b U Graphics card
August 18, 2009 5:24:53 PM

I would wait just a little bit since dx11 cards are right around the corner. Oh ya did i mention rumors are saying the next gen cards are going to be twice as fast then current cards.
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a b U Graphics card
August 18, 2009 6:09:18 PM

If you wait a about two more months you can buy a decent nvidia card (BFG) and then trade up to the new 300 series.....
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a b U Graphics card
August 18, 2009 6:11:23 PM

invisik said:
I would wait just a little bit since dx11 cards are right around the corner. Oh ya did i mention rumors are saying the next gen cards are going to be twice as fast then current cards.


i doubt they will be twice as fast unless we are talking " Flagship" cards.....
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a b U Graphics card
August 18, 2009 6:32:18 PM

The 4670 replacement may be 60% faster, or around the 4870 level

Thats a guesstimate by me, somewhat on the hopeful side, but not by much, as the total BW/fillrate is to be 1.77 times that of its replacement
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a b U Graphics card
August 18, 2009 8:38:28 PM

4670's replacement could be the 4850/4870 ?


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a b U Graphics card
August 18, 2009 8:49:32 PM

its more likely the new mid range would be jus die shrunk curent mid-high end cards
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a b U Graphics card
August 18, 2009 8:51:15 PM

Isnt the 4670 around the perf of the 3870? Maybe Im wrong...
Anyways, its between the 4850 and the 4870, which is rumored perf, on a bungholio that may or may not show actual perf in games vs bungholio marks, but thats the rumors intent, close to the 4870 in perf, and better than the 4850
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a b U Graphics card
August 18, 2009 8:58:58 PM

$100 bucks says nvidia pull another naming rehash with least 2 gt300 series
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a b U Graphics card
August 18, 2009 9:04:10 PM

bad time to go out of wifi range
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a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2009 1:30:40 PM

OvrClkr said:
i doubt they will be twice as fast unless we are talking " Flagship" cards.....



Ya thats what i meant. 9800x2=gtx280. Cant wait for next gen cards, sadly dont have money saved up. =/
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a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2009 2:32:47 PM

Yea, well im not worried since I wont be purchasing any new cards soon, Im thinking more towards gettin a second 260 later on and maybe trade up for one of the next-gen cards down the road

Would be nice to see a comparison chart between the cards that we use now vs. next-gen cards....
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a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2009 4:37:06 PM

Both specs and bench numbers would be nice......
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