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I just want to double check with you guys before I buy this setup and get it shipped out.
Please let me know if you would change anything or if things won't fit well together.
The total is $965.92 w/o shipping and $998.29 with shipping. I am trying to stay under $1000.00.

DVD Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151175

Case - Antec 900
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129021

Video Card - Radeon 4870 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150394

PSU - Corsair 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139005

Memory - OCZ 6GB DDR3 1600
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227365

CPU - Phenom II X4 955
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103674

Motherboard - MSI 790FX
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813130223

HDD - Western Digital 640GB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136218

OS - Windows Vista 64-bit
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116677

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1. get rid of the IDE DVD drive and go SATA
2. go to FRYs and get this:
http://www.frys.com/product/5972174
it has your case, a 650 W Antec PSU, and extra case fans for $230
since you would have to pay shipping on the 900 from newegg you would be paying more from there.

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COMBOS!!!!!!!!!!!! Save you tons here.

Asus 790FX and 955 $320
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.212581

If you really want that MSI board, $315
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.212202

Ram is triple channel. It would work as single channel in your board. Get a 4 gig dual channel kit like this: Others will work, try to get lowest Cas for the price and at least 1333 speed. Look for combos.

If overclocking, throw in a HSF.
http://www.frostytech.com/top5heat [...] ELHEATSINK

HDD, spend the extra $5 and the the caviar black, better performer.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231200

After updating you're build, please also inlcude the info requested in the sticky for better answers.

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billdo02 wrote :

1. get rid of the IDE DVD drive and go SATA
2. go to FRYs and get this:
http://www.frys.com/product/5972174
it has your case, a 650 W Antec PSU, and extra case fans for $230
since you would have to pay shipping on the 900 from newegg you would be paying more from there.



Hey, thanks for the reply.

I swapped out the IDE DVD drive for an SATA one.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151187

I just looked at that deal from Fry's, look's good but unfortunately it says shipping is unavailable and that I would have to pick it up in the store. I don't live in any of the states that the pickup was available at, so I think I have to pass on the deal.

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no problem. looks good. what graphics card are you running? will you be adding any case fans? will you be OCing?

CPU fan if OCing
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835185096

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skora wrote :

COMBOS!!!!!!!!!!!! Save you tons here.

Asus 790FX and 955 $320
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.212581

If you really want that MSI board, $315
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.212202

Ram is triple channel. It would work as single channel in your board. Get a 4 gig dual channel kit like this: Others will work, try to get lowest Cas for the price and at least 1333 speed. Look for combos.

If overclocking, throw in a HSF.
http://www.frostytech.com/top5heat [...] ELHEATSINK

HDD, spend the extra $5 and the the caviar black, better performer.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231200

After updating you're build, please also inlcude the info requested in the sticky for better answers.




Hey, thank you for the reply.

I went ahead and updated the HDD to the caviar black.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136319

Also, I am using that 2nd combo that you listed, with the MSI board. Is it worth the 5 dollars more for the first combo that you listed, I'm not too familiar with motherboards.

I updated the RAM to a 4 GB dual channel kit that I found here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227324

Anything else?

Thanks for your help!

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billdo02 wrote :

no problem. looks good. what graphics card are you running? will you be adding any case fans? will you be OCing?

CPU fan if OCing
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835185096



Hey,

Here is the graphics card that I picked out:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150394

Honestly, I've had the hardest time picking the graphics card, deciding between the 4850, 4870, 4890 or a GTX card. It seems the Radeon is cheaper than the GTX in general and offers very similar performance, so that's why I picked Radeon. I'm not sure if it's worth it to spend the extra money to go up to 4890 so that's why I settled with the 4870, but I am definitely open to suggestions!

I don't plan on adding case fans and also I don't plan on OCing.

Thanks for your help!

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Sorry to not include this in first post.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: today
BUDGET RANGE: $1000.00

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, videos, daily-use

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, sound system, monitor

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg

PARTS PREFERENCES: AMD Phenom II X4 955 CPU

OVERCLOCKING: No / Maybe
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes / Maybe (upgrade down the line)

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050 normally

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: a gaming PC that will last a few years

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Message edited by tkelsay on 07-28-2009 at 04:04:35 PM
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personally, I like the card. At this point the difference between the 4870 and 4890 in performance isn't worth it unless you are a die hard gamer. The 4850 uses DDR3 instead od the DDR5 in the 4870 and 4890 so if you have the extra cash deffinitely ignore the 4850 cards.

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The 4870 1gb is more card than the 1680x1050 monitor needs. Not by much, so will will run games at max for another year and maybe longer.

Look at the combos too.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] 22-136-319
Same HDD and OS for $5 savings.

Please update the complete build and cost too if you get a chance.

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DVD Drive - Samsung - $26.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151187

Case - Antec 900 - $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129021

Graphics Card - Radeon 4870 1GB - $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150394

PSU - Corsair 650W - $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139005

Memory - OCZ 4GB Dual-Channel DDR3 1600 - $75.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227324

CPU & Mobo combo - Phenom II X4 955 + MSI 790FX - $314.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.212202

HDD & OS combo - Caviar Black 640GB 7200RPM + Vista 64-bit - $179.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] 22-136-319

Subtotal = $947.92
Total after shipping = $980.99

Do you think I should stick with the MSI mobo or get the other combo that you listed for 5 dollars more here:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.212581

Reply to tkelsay

I would stick with either Asus or Gigabyte for the motherboard. I haven't had good luck with MSI at all lately. The combo with the Asus board that skora linked above is a higher quality board and only costs you an extra $5. You can get a RAM kit with tighter timings for the same price as the one you chose.

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P16004GK - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227297 $75.99

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shortstuff_mt wrote :

I would stick with either Asus or Gigabyte for the motherboard. I haven't had good luck with MSI at all lately. The combo with the Asus board that skora linked above is a higher quality board and only costs you an extra $5. You can get a RAM kit with tighter timings for the same price as the one you chose.

OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P16004GK - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227297 $75.99



Hey, thanks!

I updated to the newer combo and the RAM that you listed.

Just for anyone else, the updated list now uses this combo and RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.212581
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227297

This puts my totals as follows:
Subtotal: $952.92
Total after shipping: $985.74

Reply to tkelsay

The Corsair 650W PSU is a very high quality unit, but would be pushing it with crossfire 4870's and a quad core CPU. You might want to spend an extra $10 and get the 750TX.

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] &Tpk=750tx $109.99

Reply to shortstuff_mt

Whenever possible get your case locally or find it with free shipping. Shipping a case and PSU are expensive. Try this....
Antec 900
Earthwatts 650W
for only $170 with free shipping. That will save you $30 plus the cost of shipping. Wish I had seen this earlier....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129064

Deffinitely get the Asus board. And switching the RAM is good too.

Reply to billdo02

Are you planning on going Xfire or SLI? if so a beefier PSU would be a good idea like Shortstuff said. If not then the case/PSU I mentioned would work fine.

Reply to billdo02

billdo02 wrote :

Are you planning on going Xfire or SLI? if so a beefier PSU would be a good idea like Shortstuff said. If not then the case/PSU I mentioned would work fine.


tkelsay wrote :

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes / Maybe (upgrade down the line)

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Hey, thanks again guys.

I do plan on doing crossfire down the line, so I will go ahead and get the case and PSU separate, spend the extra 10 dollars and get the Corsair 750W PSU. This puts me at $995 with shipping.

I will update with a final list as purchase seems close.


Message edited by tkelsay on 07-28-2009 at 05:08:49 PM
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DVD Drive - Samsung - $26.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151187

Case - Antec 900 - $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129021

Graphics Card - Radeon 4870 1GB - $149.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150394

PSU - Corsair 750W - $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817139006

Memory - OCZ 4GB Dual-Channel DDR3 1600 - $75.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227297

CPU & Mobo combo - Phenom II X4 955 + ASUS 790FX - $319.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.212581

HDD & OS combo - Caviar Black 640GB 7200RPM + Vista 64-bit - $179.98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] 22-136-319

Subtotal = $962.92
Total after shipping = $995.74


Message edited by tkelsay on 07-28-2009 at 05:27:08 PM
Reply to tkelsay

The build looks good! The text for the CPU + motherboard combo still says MSI, but the link goes to the Asus board combo. Nice job, and you're under budget by $4.26. :) It doesn't get much closer than that.

Reply to shortstuff_mt
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oops! I edited it :)

Thanks again for all the help, everyone!

Reply to tkelsay


D'oh!!! forgot he came back with the extra info. sorry.

It would still be worth it to check out his local dealers and see if they have good prices on cases. I know when I shipped a case before it was $10-20 shipping for that alone. Try deleting the case and seeing the total shipped price to compare. You might be surprised how much shipping you are paying on that 1 item. Then compare with local stores (take into account total cost with shipping when comparison shopping).

http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Prod [...] st=froogle
no taxes + free shipping for $108. course I have never bought from them before, but I saw normal shipping costs between $15 and $25.

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zipzoomfly is a good etailer. I use them often. They also have the 750tx for $100 amir and free shipping. So buying both from them is $210 delivered amir instead of $210 + ~$20 for shipping from the egg.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Prod [...] ode=140146
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Prod [...] e=10007112

And if you want to save another $30 amir, there's this 4870 1gb
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Prod [...] t=celebros


Message edited by skora on 07-28-2009 at 06:14:17 PM
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APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: (This week-Today)

BUDGET RANGE: ($800-$1000)

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, some CAD work, Office work, movies.

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, DVD/CD drive. Case Lien Li P-60

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com.

PARTS PREFERENCES: Same as listed by TKELSAY

OVERCLOCKING: No

CROSSFIRE: Maybe in the future.

MONITOR RESOLUTION: Not sure, I have a NEC CRT 21" monitor.

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:

Im thinking about building the identical system as above and I have two questions

(1) Can I fit all of these components in the Lien Li P 60 case?
(2) Can I run Windows XP professional on this hardware?


Hope I put this in the right format. I know my way around a computer, but this will be my 1st complete build.

Reply to tmro

@ TMRO - You need to start your own thread instead of hijacking this one.

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tmro wrote :



ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:

Im thinking about building the identical system as above and I have two questions

(1) Can I fit all of these components in the Lien Li P 60 case?
(2) Can I run Windows XP professional on this hardware?


Hope I put this in the right format. I know my way around a computer, but this will be my 1st complete build.


1.) Everything will fit into your Lien Li P 60 case just fine.
2.) You can run Windows XP professional on this hardware.

edit shortstuff_mt does make a good point. You might get more feedback or different feedback related to your specific case or something.


Message edited by tecmo34 on 07-28-2009 at 06:24:19 PM
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I apologize that was my 1st post, and I thought it had relevance to the thread. I did not mean to treat on anyone. I appreciate the response and will begin my own thread.


Thanks again.


Tom

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Hey I just recently build a similar rig
Antec 300
AMD 955 OC'd to 3.7ghz
XFX XXX 4870 1gb
GA-MA790XT-UD4P
OCZ DDR3 2gbx2
PC P&C 750W
Wester Digital Caviar Black 350gb
win7
xigmatek dark knigh

------------------------------ AMD 955
Gygabyte 790XT
XFX XXX 4870 1GB
OCZ Platinum 4gb DDR3
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