New PC build from Cyberpowerpc

[mjohn19468]

Hi all i am new here to the forums. i figured that i have to pay some homage to TomsHardware site since i did allot of my research here on my projected PC build.

I have built two PC's. One intel and the other amd. The amd failed and i am not sure why, but i lost that client. No biggie as they were too needy anyways. The other has referred me to many more. So anyways. I am a gamer and also video/movie freak and have 1.5 Tb hd dedicated just to movie (only 235 GB of free space left) My current rig Dell Dimension 8300 is beyond i got in july 2002. It is old and cannot upgrade the agp slot any more. In fact i had to upgrade the PSU from Dell OEM to just get one more year out of it. So never again i will purchase a dell or mainstream computer for gaming. Please do not hate me for using cyberpower, i am totally ok spending the extra $100 in letting them assemble my rig and be held accountable for my investiment since i will probably no be purchasing another computer for at least another 7 years or longer. I think that I have done enough research to say i think my current build is compatiable but i would rather hear it from some folks that know a thing or two about custom built computers.

I do not need a monitor since i have two already. (gameing and watching the server and kicking people)
Mouse i do not need really but whatever.
I have a $3000 limit but would like to try and save about $500 so i can buy other crap As soon as uncle SAM pays me. Please post an suggestions or comments good or bad. I really want to get the best bang for my buck while creating longevity for my system. I mean down the road 4 or 5 years i could always upgrade to Core i7-975. Here we go.


$2462.00
before all applicable rebates

CASE: SilverStone/Raven RV01B-W Black Color Full Tower Case w/ Side See-Thru Window

Neon Light Upgrade: 12in COLD CATHODE NEON LIGHT (BLUE COLOR) - NOT NEEDED BUT I WANT IT

POWER SUPPLY Upgrade: 1, 000 Watts Power Supplies (Thermaltake ToughPower 1, 000 Watts Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready)

CPU: Intel® Core™ i7-920 2.66 GHz 8M L3 Cache LGA1366

COOLING FAN : Asetek Liquid CPU Cooling System (Extreme Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) - REQUIRED WILL SETTLE FOR NOTHING LESS

MOTHERBOARD: Asus P6T Deluxe V2 Intel X58 Chipset SLI/CrossFireX Mainboard SAS Triple-Channel DDR3/1600 SATA w/ eSATA, Dual GbLAN, USB2.0, IEEE1394a, &7.1Audio - REQUIRED WILL SETTLE FOR NOTHING LESS

MEMORY: 3GB (1GBx3) DDR3/1600MHz Triple Channel Memory Module (Corsair Dominator)

VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce GTX275 896MB 16X PCIe Video Card (EVGA Powered by NVIDIA)

VIDEO CARD 2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX275 896MB 16X PCIe Video Card (EVGA Powered by NVIDIA)

Free Game: FREE GAME - Battle Stations ** Pacific **

MULTIPLE VIDEO CARD SETTINGS: Xtreme Performance in SLI/CrossFireX Gaming Mode Supports Single Monitor

HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (500GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 16MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)

Data Hard Drive: 64 GB Kingston 2.5 inch SATA Gaming MLC Solid State Disk (Nearly Instant Data Access Technology) - REQUIRED WILL SETTLE FOR NOTHING LESS EXCEPT FOR MAYBE THE 32 GB VERSION


Optical Drive: (Special Price) LG 22X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Dual Layer Drive (BLACK COLOR)

Optical Drive 2: Sony Optiarc BC-5100S 5X Blu-Ray Player & DVDRW Combo Drive (Black Color)

SPEAKERS: Logitech (Black) G51 5.1 Surround Sound Speaker System - NOT NEEDED BUT I WANT TO UPDATE MY CURRENT 5.1 DELL SURROUND

KEYBOARD: Razer Lycosa Black USB Gaming Keyboard - REQUIRED - STILL ROLLING WITH OEM DELL KEYBOARD ON MY KVM!!!

MOUSE: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse

Extra Thermal Display : Xion XON-MTR002B Color LCD Thermal Control Panel Display - NOT NEEDED BUT I WANT IT


Flash Media Reader/Writer: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)

OS: NONE - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY

SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

RUSH SERVICE: RUSH!!! READY TO SHIP IN 5 BUSINESS DAYS

 

[mindless728]

i would upgrade to at least 6GB (3x2GB) of memory

 

[mjohn19468]

OH my bad. I am going to run 32 bit XP pro and load it myself. No need to 6GB. And wen i upgrade to windows 7 it will be 32 bit as well.

 

[hunter315]

That price also seems extremely high to me, you can get a better build than that for alot less if you are willing to do it yourself. Also why do you have so many required parts? Are you planning on a significant overclock, like something over about 3.8? If not then you dont need liquid cooling, if you are you probably want a higher end liquid cooling system. Judging by a few of the parts they have about a 10-15% markup which isnt much but when the system costs 2500 that is about a $300-400 difference.

Why on earth would you stick to 32 bit windows? It needs to die, you will get better performance through being able to use more ram with 64 bit windows.

And get a 850 watt PSU instead of the 1000 to save some money, get a good corsair or something

 

[mjohn19468]

That price also seems extremely high to me, you can get a better build than that for alot less if you are willing to do it yourself. Also why do you have so many required parts? Are you planning on a significant overclock, like something over about 3.8? If not then you dont need liquid cooling, if you are you probably want a higher end liquid cooling system. Judging by a few of the parts they have about a 10-15% markup which isnt much but when the system costs 2500 that is about a $300-400 difference.

Why on earth would you stick to 32 bit windows? It needs to die, you will get better performance through being able to use more ram with 64 bit windows.

And get a 850 watt PSU instead of the 1000 to save some money, get a good corsair or something

I do plan on over clocking to about 3.8, but the environment where my computer is located is very warm. The wife stuck me in with the washer and dryer, Humidifier, freezer chest and mini fridge. So it gets warm in my half of the basement.

You do make a point about the ram and the 64 bit OS. But really that might be something i will consider down the road but for the time being i want to stick with 32 bit. The required parts are things that i want. i really like the keyboard you can have it light up just WASD.... The Mobo i really like. I originally wanted the Rampage extreme II and wanted to a dual loop water cooling to cool, CPU, GPU, and south bridge, but found that was to extreme and out of budget.

Hunter so if i went with a 64bit OS and 6 GB's of that ram i will have improved system performance over all? I guess i could go with a 850 Watt PSU, but would the handle a 3 GPU down the road if i end feeling like i need extra performance to keep up with current games 3 - 4 year from now?

 

[mjohn19468]

I would love to build my computer but know that i am not a pro and have never built anything this sophisticated before i am scared that i will end costing myself more $$$. I am sure that i could do it if i got some of my geek buddies to come and help me. Hey I am going to start pricing the stuff i have listed here and see if newegg can beat the list price at least. then i would have to put into consideration as well the shipping. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[leo2kp]

It's a great learning experience, and each part has its own warranty, often times longer than the builder will give you. For example, many hard-drives come with 5-year warranties. The RAM usually has a lifetime warranty. The right video card will give you a lifetime warranty, and coverage for overclocking/replacing the cooling unit. The CPU usually has a 3-year warranty (I think anyway). A good PSU will have a 5-year warranty. So if you do it right, you can have a higher-quality system for lower cost and the satisfaction that you built the rig yourself. Something goes a little wrong, you have intimate knowledge of the inner workings and can probably fix it yourself vs. shipping it back to Cyber. Know what I mean? This is an opportunity for you to really increase your computer knowledge and save yourself a ton of money...and if you get good enough you can even make some on the side

 

[huron]

Seriously, you can build something for much cheaper.

Building is not that difficult. I bet you could save a significant part of that budget for future upgrades, or a complete overhaul in a few years.

You can beat the price easily. If you need help building, just read around a bit, and ask people here. Honestly, the first time, I was a bit fearful and took it real slow, after that, it's a breeze. I build a computer for a relative in well under and hour the last time.

You can do it, and it's a fun experience. If you have questions, come back and ask. We can even help you pick the parts.

Good luck.

 

[Helloworld_98]

on the memory subject, with those two graphics cards, on windows XP, you'll only have 1.25GB of ram because 32bit OS'es limit the amount of ram to 3250MB and Graphics ram is more important than system ram.

Most games need AT LEAST 4GB of memory.

Your apps and games are going to run very slow with WinXP.

 

[mjohn19468]

Thanks helloworld that makes sense. So I will be putting Windows 7 64 bit on and will upgrade to the 6 GB of ram.

I just talked to my one buddy who has built servers for small businesses and he will help me put it all together. He said most CPU's you buy come with Thermalpaste. Is the factory stuff sufficient? So now i am working on pricing out stuff at new egg.

 

[huron]

Good deal. A definite +1 for x64 - no reason not to anymore.

 

[mjohn19468]

That price also seems extremely high to me, you can get a better build than that for alot less if you are willing to do it yourself. Also why do you have so many required parts? Are you planning on a significant overclock, like something over about 3.8? If not then you dont need liquid cooling, if you are you probably want a higher end liquid cooling system. Judging by a few of the parts they have about a 10-15% markup which isnt much but when the system costs 2500 that is about a $300-400 difference.

Why on earth would you stick to 32 bit windows? It needs to die, you will get better performance through being able to use more ram with 64 bit windows.

And get a 850 watt PSU instead of the 1000 to save some money, get a good corsair or something

So i did the best i could to get as close as possible from my Cyberpower build (TOOK ALL DAY). I only see about a $200 savings. It would be more but my wish list for new egg did not allow the combos and specials (you all probably know this all ready + mjohn19468=NOOB). I did change a few things but when i got to buy i would definitely work the bundles into the picture and en up saving about $125. I really want the liquid cooled CPU just for the simple fact it is so darn hot in my basement.

Here is the preliminary New Egg build. I will be doing this on Tiger direct as well. Total for new egg was $2,246.87 and i still need to choose the keyboard as well. I am still convinced to build my own PC. I will get more for what i want to spend. Oh and shipping was estimated total cost of like $80. WOW.

Qty. Product Description Savings Total Price
1
SILVERSTONE RAVEN RV01-BW Black Steel / Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Item #: N82E16811163135
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $249.98
2
EVGA 896-P3-1170-AR GeForce GTX 275 896MB 448-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
Item #: N82E16814130475
Return Policy: VGA Replacement Only Return Policy -$10.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate
$499.98
$479.98
1
Swiftech H20-220 Compact CPU Water Cooling Kit
Item #: N82E16835108105
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $139.99
1
Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920
Item #: N82E16819115202
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy -$9.00 Instant $288.99
$279.99
1
Logitech G51 155 watts RMS 5.1 Surround Sound Speakers
Item #: N82E16836121012
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$22.00 Instant $169.99
$147.99
1
Intel X25-M SSDSA2MH080G1 80GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid state disk (SSD)
Item #: N82E16820167005
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy -$85.00 Instant $314.99
$229.99
1
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model TR3X6G1600C8D
Item #: N82E16820145224
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy $10.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$159.00
1
ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813131365
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy $289.99
1
Thermaltake Toughpower W0178RU 850W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817153072
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy -$80.00 Instant
$35.00 Mail-in Rebate
$259.99
$179.99
1
Sony Optiarc DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model AD-7241S-0B LightScribe Support
Item #: N82E16827118032
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $30.99
1
LOGISYS Computer CLK12BL 12" Cold Cathode kit
Item #: N82E16800888026
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $4.99
1
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive
Item #: N82E16822148395
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy $53.99

 

[hunter315]

Looks pretty good but there are a couple of improvements that can be made, you can save an extra $45 by getting OCZ platinums which are better than the corsair dominators.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227381
Swap out the PSU for this one, corsair makes great PSUs and it saves you $75 before MIR and $60 after
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009&Tpk=850tx
Also wait for a bit, there was a firmware issue in the newest 34nm intel SSD's(they are silver in color) which are faster than the black ones but they should have that fixed and the drives on the market again soon and they are cheaper than the black ones.

 

[huron]

Agreed about the PSU. Stick with PC Power and Cooling, Corsair, or Antec Earthwatts if you can.

I'm amazed you're spending $250 on a case. That's up to you, but I'd be happy with something like a CoolerMaster or Antec 1200 for $100 less.

Also, do you need the P6T deluxe? Are you going to do anything that the regular P6T can't do?

Instead of a 500 GB HDD, I'd get a Western Digital 640GB - 2 platters, quite quick, excellent drive.

The build looks good. It's more than I would like to spend, but then again, it includes the keyboard, a SSD drive, an expensive case, and water cooling kit.

Good luck with the build.

You're watercooling - are you planning on pushing the overclock?

 

[baddad]

I would dump the SSD your not getting enough for your money and have no need for it. Getting a HDD with 32MB Cache like this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152119 will work just as while. Thermaltake power supplies are great supplies, I have yet to have one fail. Stay with the 1000W if you plan on three way SLI in the future http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817153053

 

[mjohn19468]

Huron, Hunter, Baddat,

I plan on OC'ing to 3.8 with turbo turned off. I want that board since i do not plan on building a new machine for many years. I do like the suggested PSU. It looks stable, but i was looking to stay at 1000 Watts in attempt that I will never have to upgrade a new PSU again on this build. The SSD drive i want to load up all my games and another other items that i will want fast access too. I will probably down grade it to a smaller 32 GB or something. I am still on the fence with my case. Like i have said prior, the room my PC is in is very hot so i want to coolest case possible. I am still reading allot of reviews and stuff. This Custom PC building experience is great. Not sure if my employer would agree since i am at work again dedicating all my time into researching computer parts. Good thing i am on the laptop with a sprint PCS card. I will be taking all your suggestions into play and continue researching.

 

[hunter315]

If you are going to get a 1000 watt PSU get the corsair 1000HX, it is a very strong very impressive PSu
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=89
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139007&Tpk=1000hx

Stick with the intel 80GB SSD its one of the fastest out there and they dont offer a smaller model but make sure to get a silver one as it will be cheaper and faster. They should be out in a week once they roll out the firmware patch on all of them. Like this one, the price should get discounted a bit when newegg gets them in stock.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167016

 

[Helloworld_98]

^ I don't think the corsair is on top anymore, the OCZ Z-series 1000w has a higher efficiency rate and costs less.

 

[mjohn19468]

Thanks for the sugestions. I will let you all know how i make out once i order it and get it up and running

 

[mjohn19468]

I compared my components to tigerdirect.com last night and if i split up buying some of my items from Tiger and the rest from Newegg i can save $45. woohooo