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Anonymous
July 31, 2009 3:06:28 AM

Hello all, looking for suggestions if this system will run well. I am hoping to have something that I can game with for a couple years without much upgrading.

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: In the next couple of week BUDGET RANGE: ~$1500 - $1800

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming PC

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor (22' Samsung)

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: None

PARTS PREFERENCES: I want to stay away from AMD/ATI in this build

OVERCLOCKING: Yes SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1680x1050

EVGA 896-P3-1170-AR GeForce GTX 275 896MB 448-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
X2 - $479.98

LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - OEM -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$25.99 - Edited to SATA, thanks Hunter315

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$159.00

COOLER MASTER Centurion 590 RC-590-KKN1-GP Black SECC / ABS ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$59.99

SILVERSTONE SCOOL121 120mm Case Fan - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
X2 - $25.98

Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$279.99

Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3250310AS 250GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
X2 - $89.98 Raid 0

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$109.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$119.99 - Thanks Hunter315

XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
44.98 - Changed cooler thanks Tecmo34

EVGA 141-BL-E757-TR LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX X58 SLI LE Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$234.99 Combo with CPU for -$22.00
Subtotal: ~$1,600

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July 31, 2009 3:13:53 AM

Dominators are over priced, get OCZ platinums, saves you $45
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

A sata burner not IDE
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

If you are going to spend $200 on a PSU you might as well go modular
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or just save a bunch and still get a great PSU, saves you $60
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Also dont forget to combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Anonymous
July 31, 2009 3:33:12 AM

Thank you for the reply Hunter315, I had bad luck with OCZ in the past. I realize it is probably just luck of the draw but am trying to stay away. How is this memory?

Kingston HyperX 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Triple Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model KHX12800D3LLK3/6GX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
129.99
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July 31, 2009 3:38:00 AM

^+1 hunter315's recommendations.

I would recommend dropping the extra fan and just upgrade your case to the CM 690. IMO, it is worth the cost over the case you picked. Also, switch out the V8 for the Xigmatek Dark Knight S1283V for less money at equal or better performance.
Anonymous
July 31, 2009 3:56:00 AM

Thanks Tecmo34, I switched out the cooler. $15.00 less for the same or better performance is great. I'm still looking that the case to decide.

Is raid 0 the way to go? Or should I go with a single faster drive?
July 31, 2009 4:04:21 AM

I'm a fan of a single fast drive like the WD 640GB Black over a RAID0 setup. To me; there are just to many issues in a RAID0 setup that could cause you to lose everything... IMO
July 31, 2009 4:09:26 AM

And the older Seagate 10 series, while it was pretty quick for its day isnt very fast any more. The 5600RPM 250GB hitachi drive in my laptop has performance equal to my Seagate 250GB 7200.10 HDD in my desktop, im going to be upgrading to a caviar black soon myself. Raid only helps with certain situations where as a good quick drive helps in all situations.
July 31, 2009 4:19:26 AM

@Rob016 I dont think you will require 2x GTX 275s for that resolution...Even a single GTX 260 could max out most of the games @ that resolution...It would be a total overkill for that resolution...

And get the WD Black 640GB as others say...it is a better choice...
And as for RAM, I would get this instead of the Kingston...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
July 31, 2009 4:44:21 AM

Here are some other Combo's you should look at.

Option #1
1. Corsair (XMS Series) TR3X6G1600C8D: $159.00 Free Shipping*
2. Corsair Memory, Inc. CMPSU-1000HX: $239.99 Free Shipping*
3. EVGA 896-P3-1170-AR: $239.99 Free Shipping*

Combo Discount: -$50.00
Combo Price: $588.98
$10.00 Mail-In Rebate
$20.00 Mail-In Rebate
$20.00 Mail-In Rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Option #2
1. EVGA 141-BL-E757-TR: $234.99 Free Shipping*
2. Intel BX80601920: $279.99 Free Shipping*

Combo Discount: -$22.00
Combo Price: $492.98
$20.00 Mail-In Rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


Plus a Core i7 runs a little hotter , so you will need a case with very good airflow. Below are a couple I would recommend. plus they have room for a CPU HSF Cooler you will need.

COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black $99.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black $109.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU HSF Cooler
Scythe MUGEN-2 SCMG-2000 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler - Retail $36.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thermal Compound and Comound Remover
Noctua NT-H1 Thermal Compound - Retail $9.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Tuniq TR-1 High Performance Thermal Material Remover - Retail $6.99 ($1.99 after $5.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

And if you do go with one of the cases I suggested or another one that also has the PSU mounted at the Bottom. Then you will need this cable, otherwise the psu cable for the 8-pin power to mobo will run across the legnth of the mobo.

1ST PC CORP. 12" 8-pin EPS extension cable Model CB-8M-8F - Retail $7.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total of both Options, 2nd Graphic card, HAF 922 and all the needed items + $1644.86 after MIR and before shipping costs.

Using your case selection build costs would be $1594.86
The Centurion 590 width will make it tight fit for most 1366 CPU HSF Coolers.

Hope this helped you out some.
July 31, 2009 4:48:41 AM

^@Yoosty 1000W PSU ???
I highly doubt if he would ever require that...
And for that resolution, having 2 graphics cards would be a total overkill...
July 31, 2009 5:06:07 AM

gkay09 said:
^@Yoosty 1000W PSU ???
I highly doubt if he would ever require that...
And for that resolution, having 2 graphics cards would be a total overkill...

I know the PSU is a bit overkill, but in that Combo it is a great price. Otherwise would go for either the Corsair 750TX or Corsair 850TX..

On the Thermal Compound, main reasons I am suggested it, is it does not need any curing time (40hrs for AS3) and it is easy to use. Check review from HardOCP on there latest 1366 CPU Cooler roundup.

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/07/23/intel_core_i7...
Anonymous
July 31, 2009 4:19:19 PM

Wow, thank you all so much for the replies. Looks like I definately need to switch out the Case, HD, Memory, Graphics card(s). Get some Thermal Compound as well. Those combo's are the way to go for sure.

I am a bit confused on why 2 graphics cards in sli would not improve the performanc due to the resolution of 1680X1050. Unfortunately that is the maximum on my samsung syncmaster 22" that i bought from Bestbuy a couple of years ago :(  I see this chart and although it doesnt show 2 275's it does show 2 ati cards that drastically improves at this resolution. Yes i'm a noob so forgive the ignorance.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-char...
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