Tides changing

I remember when Ati's 2000 series flopped, every1 jumped on the green trian and started ignoring the red team. With big red's return I'm curious right now if the tides have changed, and ppl are jumping on the next winning train (which looks like ATI atm).

I made a poll on my website, if you guys can vote I would love it, because I'm doing some research for my freind's store as well.

http://www.icanspeakcomputer.com/

Thank You!!!

Can you add an option to your poll for "Brand preference only hurts me as a consumer, I go for the best value at the specified upgrade time"?

As of right now ati only has the price/performance and that is cutting it close with the gtx 275 and gtx 260,and not the overall performance crown. Untill the next gen cards are released we do not know who will hold the crown. both could be a flop, ati could flop, or nvidia could flop. It is an exciting ride and good to see both companies offer good products now. In the past both had failures and victories.

At this moment in time i'm looking at ATI, my last purchase was a HD4770 (when it was $99 and the 4850 was $130) and before that it was an 8800GT at $140.

the best pp but not the strongest

Not too sure about that now, havnt seen them run with the new drivers.
Im thinking overall, the 285 sqeaks out the win, but I also think the 4890 has taken a few more games also.
We need some data. The improvements werent just for xf, and yes, the 4890s are currently the best 2 card solution, single, its closer than it was before

No I have a conference in Toronto coming up, but until then I've not gotten any hints, specs or anything (we aren't game devs we don't get pre-release hardware [I get pre-release telecomm hardware]), and actually that team has been less helpful than the other for me and my work and really I needed their help more for making things work right out of the box for customers.

Anywhooo, short answer: no, not yet.

Rumors running rampant, an equivilant 4770 5xxx series to be a lil under a 4890 in perf, so they say

It wont be long anyways.
@ L1qu1d , good thing youre running this poll now, cause in a month, it wont matter

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Yeah, I'm actually a little freer with my time right now because.... I ruptured my Hamstring playing hockey, so work from home, take a few pain killers, stop working, surf the .net, etc. Doc says with Physio I should be 99% recovered by end of Sept which gives me a few weeks before Ski season starts. I'll also have more money for gear since I set aside coin for a Canon G11, but with no HD video on it, I'll spend it on a new kick-A$$ laptop (hopefully with some DX11 solution) for the winter season.

Actually I was just there a week ago as well as in the North and Ottawa.

(View from Cottage in North Bay at sunset)


Had some SW Ont. Peaches & Cream Corn , it was a little young (the season is late this year) but still SWEET !!



Anywhoo, not trying to derail the thread, just thought I'd share during my quick stop.

BTW I'd say that ATI is back out of the hole they dug for themselves during the HD2K and early HD3K series, and now might have a chance to see some higher ground, but essentially they are still pretty even with either of them only arguably having a slight lead over the other in whatever metric you chose (performance, value, enterprise, features, future, etc).

*edited to fix picture link*

What percentage of computer users own a top end graphics card?

Its not a very big percentage , and while it gives bragging rights to nVidia to make GTX 295's I bet it doesnt make them any significant amount of money

Most people buy on value . ATI is winning that race and will probably continue to do so because they make their own GPU's. That must be cheaper than contracting manufacture to someone else .
So all they have to do is price their product a few dollars less than the equivalent nVidia and count the money .

As he has the best music it's were my soul belongs.

Yeah I think this is the natural ebb and flow of hardware, I don't really care who makes it for me (nV makes alot of my secondary devices I find), but I found ATi met my AV needs since I don't game as much anymore.

With the changes that are coming in hardware from all 3 IHVs I have a feeling that regardless of how good ATi could possible launch their new hardware, I will likely wait until nV and/or intel launch solid info (or somoene does solid reviews) before I pull the trigger on a laptop.

Which is why those who upgrade often likely will have the easiest and quickest decision to upgrade when the new hardware arrives in a few weeks, those looking for a longer term hold may still need to wait, like myself.

Of course for work it doesn't matter, as soon as solutions support the hardware, it's bought.

Man what I had to drive through was F*cked up!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjGUDVVnVfU :S Fun though!!

It was on eglington and Warden

it really has!!!!!!

My god and its funny its always on weekends, its like the weather knows we're at work mon-fri and when we want to relax BOOOm rain!

sigh...