Could someone evaluate this wishlist for me please?

[BCMusic]

I need to know if everything on this wishlist will be completely compatible (I'm almost 100% sure they are, but I just need to make sure.) Refer to the "Note" on the wishlist for info about what this build is for.

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=9127806

I went on another forum asking for help but they seemed pretty rude.. So hopefully I can get some honest peoples opinions and suggestions! Let me know if theress anything I need to change or anything else that might help. I really would like this wishlist to be brought down to below $4000 but I don't know of any better alternative hardware than what's on that list. Thanks!

 

[computersss]

i knew why they were rude these parts are waste of money for your budget

 

[BCMusic]

Do you have any suggestions? If you feel like listing of course....

 

[Niklas_13]

Use this guild to post about the PC http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/261222-31-build-advice
without relly knowing what your going to be using it for people cant justify that money for a PC.
A few things i would do

1. drop the HDD for some WD blacks

2. Drop one of thos 295

3 Drop that PSU for a 850W Corsair

 

[BCMusic]

1. drop the HDD for some WD blacks

2. Drop one of thos 295

3 Drop that PSU for a 850W Corsair

This build is for music production/recording (professional,) heavy gaming and 3D architectural design and animation (hobbyist.)

Also, I need those two cards b/c I need 3 screens...

My budget is not more than $4000.

And which WD's do you mean?

 

[jdbaker82]

Wtf? Seriously? You might as well go buy a Alienware.

 

[MikeJRamsey]

Impressive.

I know that you are looking to reduce the cost but I would upgrade that CPU cooler to this http://www.prolimatech.com/products/megahalems.html
along with two of these http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?category_id=1655&product_id=2915

I only counted one device that requires a regular PCI slot. Since you are going 2XSLI you could save $70 by going with this
http://www.evga.com/products/moreInfo.asp?pn=121-BL-E756-TR&family=Motherboard%20Family
or not. The micro is a classified with fewer slots. Not as sexy but no less powerful for what you are doing. BTW, it's better to buy the EVGA mobo's directly from EVGA.

Not that it matters much but since this is a new build and you don't need to clean off old thermal grease, I would not buy the
Arctic Silver ACN-60ML (2-PC-SET) Thermal material Remover & Surface Purifier - OEM
and would use high-purity isopropyl alcohol instead.

You know your own audio needs best. If you plan on taking any of that on the road, consider this
http://www.digitech.com/products/Guitar_Workstation/GNX4.php

Two GTX 295's is ... a lot of firepower. Again, you know your own needs best but if you wanted to save some money,
2 x GeForce GTX 275 in SLI Configuration are cheaper than a single GTX 295 and provide slightly more firepower than a single GTX295.

"It's funny that we're recommending two GeForce GTX 275 cards in SLI over a single GeForce GTX 295, when you consider that each GeForce GTX 275 is essentially half of a GeForce GTX 295. Saving the $210 compared to the GeForce GTX 295 doesn't result in a performance penalty. If anything a pair of GeForce GTX 275s will display a slight performance edge due to their faster clock speeds."

It's your money.

Oh yes, compatibility. If hardware isn't compatible with Microsoft then they aren't going to be sold. All the high-end gear will be compatible with Vista.

I use Ubuntu in a dual boot configuration and it is with Linux that people usually worry about compatibility. Less so with Ubuntu than Redhat but still a major concern.

EDIT: I wish my fingers would stop thinking for themselves; fixed a small typo.

 

[MikeJRamsey]

One more thing. If you are going to spend that kind of money on high end graphic cards get a better display!

http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-4687
for example.

 

[BCMusic]

It seems everywhere I go it's the same type of responses.... All I need is HELP for my build... Things like "wtf?" and "waste of money" is not helping.. I want to "build" it my self... I've put together 3 computers so I'm not new to it...

Now that it's been established that "my budget is not more than $4000" and it's "for music production/recording... heavy gaming and 3D architectural design and animation...," could someone kindly compile an alternate, less costly list based off of those items already listed in my "waste of money" wishlist??

EDIT: Sorry Mike, I posted that a little late... But I appreciate that response. That's what I was looking for...

 

[MikeJRamsey]

It seems everywhere I go it's the same type of responses.... All I need is HELP for my build... Things like "wtf?" and "waste of money" is not helping.. I want to "build" it my self... I've put together 3 computers so I'm not new to it...

Now that it's been established that "my budget is not more than $4000" and it's "for music production/recording... heavy gaming and 3D architectural design and animation...," could someone kindly compile an alternate, less costly list based off of those items already listed in my "waste of money" wishlist??

EDIT: Sorry Mike, I posted that a little late... But I appreciate that response. That's what I was looking for...

Np. Ships passing in the night.

Most folks don't throw that kind of money at these systems so that will draw some cat calls. Try for balance. I don't know anybody that felt the need to throw 2XSLI GTX 295's at the gaming problem. I am sure that people have done it. My advice, as stated above, is to match the display(s) to the graphic cards. BTW, each GTX 275 has two DVI outputs.

Tom's hardware is usually pretty good about treating people well. It's one of the reason's I hang out here. You might find more kindred spirits here
http://www.soundonsound.com/forum

and especially here http://www.soundonsound.com/forum/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=BUILD

Mike

EDIT: Fixed a fat-finger typo.

 

[BCMusic]

Ok, I have updated the wishlist and I think I'm just about done... I idon't want you to get the impression that I'm questioning your knowledge on this subjetc, but if it's not too much trouble, I'd like to avoid any hassle that may come by ordering form different MFR's and just go ahead and order everything directly from Newegg. Could you go back over that wishlist and recommend any alternative to an item on that list? I mean, everything looks fine now, but obviously, I'm having trouble getting it down below that $4000 mark, and that's my main issue right now.

EDIT: Also, those monitors are pretty much needed b/c I need at least 24" and I couldn't find any other better, less costly alternative...

 

[tecmo34]

I would recommend dropping the two VRaptors and switch them out for an Intel or OCZ Van... SSD around 80GB for you OS/Programs and run two Western Digital 640GB Black hard drives in RAID0 for all other data.

 

[hunter315]

If you switch your hard drives out for a couple fo these you will get the same speed in sequential read and write operations, maybe a tiny bit slower in rapid IO but most people dont do much of that.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136319&Tpk=WD%20caviar%20640%20black
If you take 3 or 4 of them and put them in RAID 5 it will give you improved speed like raid 0 and data protection like raid 1 along with redundancy against disk failure, plus even if you get 4 of them it will save you an extra $160-235 depending on how many you get.

And dont forget to drop your PSU down to a corsair 850tx, that will save you a ton, about $200

edit: damn tecmo beat me to it

 

[BCMusic]

Now that's what I'm talking about... Constructive responses.... Thank you guys... Keep 'em coming.

 

[BCMusic]

As for the multiple HDD's, will I need an IDE PCI interface or what? If so, are there any PCI-e ones? Because I think I'm just about out of space on the MOBO with the 2x GeForce 275's in SLI and the sound card..

EDIT: Wow I feel stupid, they're SATA...

 

[MikeJRamsey]

Ok, I have updated the wishlist and I think I'm just about done... I idon't want you to get the impression that I'm questioning your knowledge on this subjetc, but if it's not too much trouble, I'd like to avoid any hassle that may come by ordering form different MFR's and just go ahead and order everything directly from Newegg. Could you go back over that wishlist and recommend any alternative to an item on that list? I mean, everything looks fine now, but obviously, I'm having trouble getting it down below that $4000 mark, and that's my main issue right now.

EDIT: Also, those monitors are pretty much needed b/c I need at least 24" and I couldn't find any other better, less costly alternative...

Newegg is a supplier, not a manufacture. You should check individual prices and order the best price from any of these additional suppliers.

■http://www.buy.com/
■http://www.tigerdirect.com/
■http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/Home.jsp
■http://www.provantage.com/

EVGA is the manufacture of your mobo. You can't go wrong in ordering from them. Much easier to RMA from EVGA directly than going through Newegg. The price might be better to.

You save ~$250 by going with these very good WD drives instead. Five year warranty on the retail version; these prices are OEM so less warranty but the same drive that WD feels good about guaranteeing for five years for the people that pay extra for the privilege.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284&Tpk=Western%20Digital%20Caviar%20Black%20WD1001FALS

Last try. Don't waster your money on high end graphic cards and then match them to 1920 x 1080 resolution displays. Buy at least one 1920 x 1200 high end Display and two cheaper displays. If you can't then consider much cheaper graphic cards. In your current configuration I believe that you are wasting money. It is of course, your money to waste. But then again you did ask.

 

[hunter315]

Are you going to be overclocking? If not you can save money on the heatsink and the thermal paste as im not sure if that evercool is better than even the stock cooler, if you are i would suggest switching to the Sunbeat Core Contact freezer, it is rated as the second best on frosty tech, it costs slightly more but will allow you a higher OC, it also comes with thermal paste
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835207004
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835207005
http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm

Also consider swapping out your ram for something with lower timings, that Gskills CL9 isnt very faster where as this OCZ runs faster, gives you CL7 which cuts the access time. I dont doubt that you need 12 GB of ram, but this upgrade will only set you back an extra 20.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227381

 

[BCMusic]

I do plan on OC'ing in the future, that is when I feel I'm confident that I won't screw anything up....

 

[hunter315]

The definitely get a better heatsink than that evercool, 120mm fans move more air and run quieter than smaller fans because they can turn slower so make sure to get one with 120mm fans, like the core contact freezer.

Oh and i just noticed you have an IDE optical drive, sata drives make life alot easier as they have longer cables and dont block airflow as much.

 

[BCMusic]

Ok, I swapped out that IDE Burner for a SATA. What about this one from EVERCOOl:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835119115

There was only 2 and the EVERCOOL keeps me under $4000. But If you think it's worth it to go with the other one (Noctua):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608007

then It wouldn't bother me too much to go ahead and get that one...


EDIT: Oh and this one (Zalman):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118051

All are 120mm with compatabilty with 1366.

EDIT(again): Ohhhhh, I didn't catch that retention bracket for some reason..

 

[Niklas_13]

If you have a micro center close by they hade the i7 920 for 200 thats will cut costs down

nice change on the HDD and PSU

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0302727

 

[BCMusic]

Thanks, I don't know If we have one around here or not... I live right next to Memphis, so I don't see why not. I'll Check.


EDIT: Just checked and it looks like I'm SOL... Oh well...