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August 4, 2009 12:42:55 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: with in 2 weeks $500-700

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Games Video editing photoshop

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com

PARTS PREFERENCES: by brand or type AMD CPU

OVERCLOCKING: Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes

MONITOR RESOLUTION:

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: This is my first build and i am looking to mostly play games. I think i have decided on AMD Phenom II X3 720 and ddr3. I am not sure of anything else. The more i read the less sure i am about everything. I would like some advice on mb selection psu and a video card that is a compatible with each other and get the best benifit out of it.

Thanks
JES

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August 4, 2009 12:50:46 AM

Wait a day or two for some new combo deals to appear on newegg. You might get into a quad.
August 4, 2009 12:53:32 AM

Is a Quad really the best way to go for gaming?
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August 4, 2009 2:32:05 AM

jes1159 said:
Is a Quad really the best way to go for gaming?

The quad will do more for the photoshop and vid editing than gaming. Gaming relies more on the GPU. What Proximon is referencing, last month, quad combos were near the same price as the tri cores. Newegg killed most of their combos the first of the month, and it takes a week or two for them to start to repopulate.
August 4, 2009 2:41:24 AM

We'll see some combos earlier than that I think. X4 955 has dropped 10 bucks in the last few hours.
August 4, 2009 3:20:07 AM

Although i agree with the Proximon 100% about waiting a week or so and keeping an eye on deals and rebates etc. Here's a build that you might consider a "baseline" build which includes a PhenomII x3 720, crossfire capable AM3 motherboard,power supply sufficient for crossfired 4850s, good fast DDR3 1333 7-7-7-18 RAM and a HD4850.

CPU - PhenomII 720 - $120 Lots of reviews of it's performance available
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard - Asrock 780G/SB710 crossfire capable $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - 2x2 GB DDR3 1333 7-7-7-18 $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case - Rosewill 3x 120mm fans and 1x 80mm fan $40 with free shipping I've used several of these cases in recent builds and have been pretty happy with them.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU- Antec Earthwatts 650w $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU - XFX HD4850 with double lifetime warranty (when registered) $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD - WD caviar black SATA 640GB $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD burner - Sony Optiarc SATA$30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total = $625 or so after shipping.

Just use this build to compare to other components as combo deals etc. become available, keep an eye on reviews of the new 785G motherboards. If you can move up to a PhenomII x4 945/955 without a big bump in price it's worth it. If you upgrade to a HD4870 then the 650w PSU won't be enough to cover it in crossfire. Good luck and have fun researching.
August 5, 2009 11:07:56 PM

dirtmountain said:
Although i agree with the Proximon 100% about waiting a week or so and keeping an eye on deals and rebates etc. Here's a build that you might consider a "baseline" build which includes a PhenomII x3 720, crossfire capable AM3 motherboard,power supply sufficient for crossfired 4850s, good fast DDR3 1333 7-7-7-18 RAM and a HD4850.

CPU - PhenomII 720 - $120 Lots of reviews of it's performance available
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Motherboard - Asrock 780G/SB710 crossfire capable $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - 2x2 GB DDR3 1333 7-7-7-18 $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case - Rosewill 3x 120mm fans and 1x 80mm fan $40 with free shipping I've used several of these cases in recent builds and have been pretty happy with them.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU- Antec Earthwatts 650w $80
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU - XFX HD4850 with double lifetime warranty (when registered) $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HD - WD caviar black SATA 640GB $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD burner - Sony Optiarc SATA$30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total = $625 or so after shipping.

Just use this build to compare to other components as combo deals etc. become available, keep an eye on reviews of the new 785G motherboards. If you can move up to a PhenomII x4 945/955 without a big bump in price it's worth it. If you upgrade to a HD4870 then the 650w PSU won't be enough to cover it in crossfire. Good luck and have fun researching.


would you use the same mb for the 945?

Thanks
JES
August 6, 2009 12:45:58 AM

Ooops i saw the 780G and didn't realize it was crossfire.

Yes that ASRock probably is the best deal.
August 7, 2009 4:06:00 AM

Proximon said:
Ooops i saw the 780G and didn't realize it was crossfire.

Yes that ASRock probably is the best deal.



would the different speeds for ram be a problem for using crossfire ? Talking about the mb.
August 7, 2009 6:14:55 AM

The ASRock is crossfire. The Gigabyte board I linked is not. Claims to possible RAM overclocks don't change anything.
August 9, 2009 3:38:54 PM

Proximon said:
The ASRock is crossfire. The Gigabyte board I linked is not. Claims to possible RAM overclocks don't change anything.



If I run this gpu crossfire do i still use a 650 power supply. How do i find out the needs of my power supply.

Thanks
Jes
August 9, 2009 4:23:17 PM

Crossfired 4850s are good with the 550w, so the 650w is great. If you go bigger, then you might consider the 750w because it will come with 4 pcie power connecters vs the 2 on the 650 and under models.

What's your resolution on your monitor anyway?
August 9, 2009 9:02:24 PM

Right now I just have a 1280x1084. Is this something I should up grade also?
August 9, 2009 9:09:17 PM

Also dirtmountain recommended some memory 7-7-7-18. The one he recommended is not in stock i guess and I did not see any other ones with this timing with a 4x2 gig. Is this tinming somthing i should be concerened about or would another timing be just as good?


Thanks
JES
August 9, 2009 9:43:19 PM

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/phenom-ii-ddr3,2319...
That article says, once you get to ddr3 1333, going faster doesn't do much, but tighter timings does. Look for Cas 7 ram, and if it can do it on 1.5v, great.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The monitor is something to upgrade, but only if you can do it right. Don't spend the money to go to a 1680x1050, but if your budget allows for 1920x1080, then consider it. A single 4850 won't do that great that high. Don't get me wrong, it will run games, but not on the higher settings and no eye candy. Thats better left to a 4870 1gb or pairs of either. But unless you have more money hiding, stick with the 1280x1024 for a $700 cap.