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Recently I took a good look at my mobo configs ,now that ip-35 is part of a museum ,Im led to believe if I will see a decrease in performance like in crysis maybe, and it clearly states that gtx 295 would require pci-e 2.0 ,what do you trully think ? btw my motherboard is abit ip-35 pro its got 2 pci-e slots x16,x4 v1.x

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As long as the cards in the pcie x16 slot it should run fine. Slow down could occur depending on the rest of your config such as cpu and ram.

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yeah sure cpu is q6600 @ 3.0
ram 2gb ddr2 800mhz
so?
thanks for the quick reply

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Do you have a 32 or 64bit os? and psu spec?


Message edited by invisik on 08-24-2009 at 10:05:21 PM
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OS is 32bit I could easily go to 64bit .Psu is corsair 750watt

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there will be a bit of a bottleneck since the P35 chipset uses PCIe 1.1.

and 16x 1.1 = 8x 2.0, the GTX 295 can be bottlenecked by 8x 2.0

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Helloworld_98 wrote :

there will be a bit of a bottleneck since the P35 chipset uses PCIe 1.1.

and 16x 1.1 = 8x 2.0, the GTX 295 can be bottlenecked by 8x 2.0



I see I need to upgrade sooner than I thought ,new mobo ,new cpu just to get the card running at full potential ,I see a hole in my pocket already

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PCEI X16 is plenty for todays cards i doubt there would be a bottleneck. Just make sure its running at x16. I personally would upgrade your system ram a bit as well maybe 4gig but if you do that you def would need a 64 bit os. The most cost effective way is to upgrade to a gtx285 and add 1 more gig to your system.

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^ it's not the no. of lanes which is the issue, it's the PCIe spec, and because it's 1.1 it will bottleneck the GTX 295.

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Why do you want to buy the GTX295 now? in a few weeks the DX11 cards will be out.

To answer your question, p-35 PCIe 1.1 is not going to bottleneck the GTX295 trust me I have GTX295 with a mobo PCIe 1.1.

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From what i no a pcie 1.1 x16 will NOT bottleneck a gtx295. "Maybe" a frame or 2 at max.

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Message edited by invisik on 08-24-2009 at 10:34:18 PM
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invisik wrote :

From what i no a pcie 1.1 x16 will NOT bottleneck a gtx295. "Maybe" a frame or 2 at max.


I wish I could take your word for granted but before I make a fatal "maybe" mistake of buying it is there any link I could rely on.


Message edited by lorik on 08-24-2009 at 10:45:57 PM
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Fair enough. There hasnt been any new comparison with these newer cards so i cant provide a link. The GTX 295 has a total memory bandwidth of 223.8 GB/s while PCI-E x16 1.0 supports up to 250 GB/s and PCI-E x16 2.0 supports up to 500 GB/s. There shouldnt be any major bottleneck because it under the 250 GB/s limit. Hope that helps in some ways. Not the greatest example but you could use it to estimate. michaelmk86 agrees as well and he has the setup you want.

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Message edited by invisik on 08-24-2009 at 11:11:48 PM
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invisik wrote :

Fair enough. There hasnt been any new comparison with these newer cards so i cant provide a link. The GTX 295 has a total memory bandwidth of 223.8 GB/s while PCI-E x16 1.0 supports up to 250 GB/s and PCI-E x16 2.0 supports up to 500 GB/s. There shouldnt be any major bottleneck because it under the 250 GB/s limit. Hope that helps in some ways. Not the greatest example but you could use it to estimate. michaelmk86 agrees as well and he has the setup you want.



THanks u explained it like a rocket scientist, thats all I needed (facts) not opinios

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michaelmk86 wrote :

Why do you want to buy the GTX295 now? in a few weeks the DX11 cards will be out.

To answer your question, p-35 PCIe 1.1 is not going to bottleneck the GTX295 trust me I have GTX295 with a mobo PCIe 1.1.



Im not 100% sure Ill buy it in regard that so many ppl r mentioning the dx11 lately , and its really great to know that it will not bottlneck ,but the next question is who knows how will dx11 card perform on pci e 1.x

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Well nobody know for sure if the pci-e 1.1 is going to bottleneck the dx11 cards but defiantly for the single slot solutions the memory bandwidth is not going to be more than 250 GB/s.

Here are some benchmarks with my q6600 3,2GHz and GTX295 pci-e 1.1 if you want to see what kind of performance you will get if you buy the GTX295.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hpwI49nyKw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czT6wKKkyow

Anyway I suggest you to wait the dx11 cards to come out and then decide what you want to buy

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Anyway I suggest you to wait the dx11 cards to come out and then decide what you want to buy


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michaelmk86 wrote :

Well nobody know for sure if the pci-e 1.1 is going to bottleneck the dx11 cards but defiantly for the single slot solutions the memory bandwidth is not going to be more than 250 GB/s.

Here are some benchmarks with my q6600 3,2GHz and GTX295 pci-e 1.1 if you want to see what kind of performance you will get if you buy the GTX295.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hpwI49nyKw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czT6wKKkyow

Anyway I suggest you to wait the dx11 cards to come out and then decide what you want to buy



Indeed great performance especially in crysis with an average of 39 ! I'm impressed ,after seeing that I'm not so sure I'm gonna wait ,(I'm fed up with my hd2900xt) :(

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No problem glad i could help.

I agree if you can hold of just a bit longer see what dx11 offers. Im sure prices of current cards will go a bit down so its a win-win situation. Im feeling confident next gen "Dual gpu" cards will saturate pcei x16 slot, since we come close with todays cards.

Oh ya lorik before i forget if you feel like its cutting close with a pcei x16 1.1 you could always up the frequency of the pcei bus in the bios would should help. I have mine set to 115mhz from 100mhz. ( no gain though since my gtx260 doesnt come anywhere near 250 GB/s limit) =P


Message edited by invisik on 08-25-2009 at 12:28:33 AM
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If you really want to upgrade now why not get a pair of 275s and an sli motherboard with the change?

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phil_h_99 wrote :

If you really want to upgrade now why not get a pair of 275s and an sli motherboard with the change?



I'm a bit hesitant as of now ,for the moment only small parts of my rig would be a nice afordable step forward ,just as long as my mobo is in fashion ,and when the time comes to move along with newer technology like 1336 ,I might consider a new rig.

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