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August 5, 2009 9:00:35 AM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within the week

BUDGET RANGE: $1000

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Gaming, videos/movies, schoolwork

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com, but if there are other sites with better deals/combos, definitely open to them

PARTS PREFERENCES: intel i7, good mobo, gtx 280, large amount of ram (4+??), 1tb hard drive

OVERCLOCKING: Yes
Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1080 preferably, or a notch smaller

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: Quiet!


Hey guys,

My first time ever building a computer so I need every bit of help I can get. Friend told me I can essentially get a top notch gaming computer for $1000 with an intel i7, good mobo, 4gb of ram, 1tb hard drive, and a gtx280 so I'm asking you guys for some help!

I am welcome to all opinions (AMD v. intel/nvidia) so whatever you guys think would be an ideal setup for under $1000 would be nice. I want to game (run games that are population heavy like World of Warcraft), but I also want to run everyday activities like MS Office, etc.


Thank you in advance!
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2009 9:11:27 AM

If you want mainly a gaming PC, then i7 would not be a very good choice...
Yes i7 is the best desktop CPU out there...but in gaming, it doesnt offer significant performance advantage over the other CPUs...
So you can easily save some money going with X4 955 as the overall platform cost(CPU + Mobo + RAM) would be reduced...
Do you want the OS included in that budget??
August 5, 2009 9:15:11 AM

well just looking at your wishlist you would be very hard pressed to get all that for $1000.

AMD is going to be your best bet. pick up a 955/decent AM3 board/4890 and call it a day.
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August 5, 2009 9:25:18 AM

No, I don't need an OS (forgot to mention that).

I'm actually surprised to hear that the i7 isn't the best for gaming. I have been reading around and sources usually come to a conclusion that it's the better one of the 2 because of its utility?

As for being hardpressed, I heard it was doable, so that's why I posted those specific parts. I'm trying to stay away from AMD if I can, but if I can only use AMD because of the price, then that is fine. I just want to know if I can build a great gaming computer (essentially top notch) for that price.

Thanks for your fast input guys!
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2009 9:35:16 AM

EDIT: Dint refresh before posting. Check the above build...It has a far more powerful graphics card and better case with the money saved on the i7 CPU, mobo, RAM...

Well you can get an i7 in that budget of yours...
And about i7 not the best for gaming -> It is w.r.t the price premium it commands vs the performance increase it gives...

Here is an i7 config...
i7 + HD 4890
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Mobo + RAM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

CASE - Antec 300
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU - More than enough for crossfire/ SLI...
PC Power & Cooling S75CF 750W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

WD Black 640GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total - $1027 Not including shipping and rebates...
August 5, 2009 9:37:23 AM

lemme put it this way:

i7 920 - $280
X58-UD4P - $260
GTX 275 (equivalent to 280 with an OC) - $220
Corsair 750W - $120

thats $880 and doesn't include

Case
RAM
Optical Drive
Hard Drive
A Decent CPU Cooler
August 5, 2009 9:38:47 AM

EDIT: forgot to refresh the page also. So far, the build above given by batuchka is probably what I am going to go with, unless there are parts that I can possibly upgrade. Thanks guys for the great input!

batuchka, that seems like a great build. Any more opinions or possible upgrades I can make to the build that batuchka just gave me?
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2009 9:42:21 AM

Change the HDD to the WD Black 640GB...These are faster and better than the Green ones in terms of performance...

But I have a slight doubt about that graphics card...I have seen in WoW forums that it doesnt support multiple card configuration...So a 4870X2 might work as a single 4870...So maybe you could confirm the above or change the graphics card to a single HD 4890...
August 5, 2009 10:05:36 AM

It seems like the combo for the Cooler Master is already gone.... is there another combo like that? Perhaps something as good, or even better for that price? This goes with all the other parts as well. (If i can get an upgrade without a big price jump, i would like it.)
August 5, 2009 10:18:36 AM

Oh, thanks!

That setup with the WD black 640gb comes out to be around $1010, which is in definite range. Are there any other thing's that I am missing? Or is this probably the best I can get with that kind of money.
August 5, 2009 2:46:49 PM

That was in interesting article haha. I'm thinking of switching out of the GPU because the Radeon 4870 x2 you suggested isn't WoW friendly. Any other great gpus out there? (just give me some top ones maybe with mobo combo around the same price as the radeon + mobo combo and i'll do the research)
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2009 2:50:56 PM

Something cheaper on green camp?
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2009 3:30:25 PM

Photobucket is blocked at work, so I can never see Batuchka's builds here :(  . Oh well. Most of them have looked pretty good, and none have made me want to rip his eyes out :o  . I've been trying not to nit-pick people's builds half to death. Not knowing what's in his build though, but based on other comments:
Get a single 4870 (or 4890) now. If it isn't enough, add another one for Crossfire later, possibly after you've accumulated more cash. A 750W Corsair or Antec PSU will be able to handle a pair of them easily enough.
Oh, and just to add to the clarity, an i7 IS the best-performing CPU now, for anything, but [particularly for circumstances where time <> money, like gaming,] the performance difference is not worth the often considerable price premium. If I were building the highest bang/buck system I could for myself right now, I'd probably also choose AMD.
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2009 3:55:13 PM

I also can't see batuchka's builds at work. I don't like looking at that little picture even when I'm at home.

batuchka - Have you ever considered just posting the components so everyone can see them and click on the links? It's a bit easier than looking at a picture and doing a search for the component. Just a suggestion. :) 
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2009 4:04:17 PM

Hmm too used to configuring via shopping cart and taking a screenshot :p  Point taken and shall try in future hehe I usually save them and share over several forums and/or over the email before i clear them carts :p 
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2009 4:09:49 PM

I use an Excel spreadsheet that I can swap components into and it calculates the total. It seems to work pretty well, but I can see where you're coming from.
August 5, 2009 4:15:20 PM

EDIT: forgot ram
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBPI - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

+case,psu
COOLER MASTER RS-700-AMBA-D3 700W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Currently, this is what I am looking at:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU: SAPPHIRE 100251SR Radeon HD 4870 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video ... - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo: BIOSTAR TForce TA790GX A3+ AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


This comes out to around $1,000. Any possible improvements that can be made (mainly GPU)?
August 5, 2009 4:31:43 PM

Just to restate what has already been said, the i7 is the BEST cpu and platform on the market right now for gaming or anything else. I think what people mean to say is that you can get a good AMD build that will fit most needs for under $1000, so it is not worth spending over $1000 on an i7 system. The ultimate question you have to answer is what you will be using your computer for, how long do you want it to be before you have to replace it, and is a little extra money worth a little extra performance?
You are on the cusp of where i7 makes sense in your budget, but probably not in your uses unless you really want to future proof your build. If you mainly play WoW, a decent $600 - $700 build would be more than enough. You really don't need more than a 4870 to run WoW even at high resolutions. And you for sure don't need crossfire or sli right now unless you want 2 lower powered cards like 2 4850s. If you really want the best bang for your buck it is here
http://www.compusa.com/applications/SearchTools/item-de...
Immediate upgrades are obvious...ram, adding another 4850 for crossfire. You will still be way under budget, have an i7 system, your graphics will outperform a gtx285, and have a good future upgrade path by replacing the MB for extreme overclocking.
August 5, 2009 4:45:17 PM

EDIT: I'm pretty content with what I have... if there is anything else you guys think I should upgrade/improve, let me know!

Thanks for your input!

Well, I definitely want something that will last me a couple of years and WoW isn't the only game that I will be playing (just the one I play most often). That computer you linked looks great, but I want something that's going to hold up for about another year or 2 of games.
August 5, 2009 5:02:28 PM

We are looking at several years before the i7 is mainstreamed. You may want to upgrade the graphics at some point, but right now 2x4850 will play anything on the current market or in development @ 19x12 without a problem. And it will do it with most of them maxed out on settings. Crysis might be the exception, but it is for almost any card. As I said, that system is the best bang for the buck you can get...it would cost about $500 more to build it from newegg.
August 5, 2009 5:06:41 PM

Sorry, I'm a bit lost... are you talking about the computer that you linked me?? The compusa refurbished? Because I read up on it from another thread here and it seems like there was a general consensus saying this was a great deal. I'm seriously thinking of switching to this computer!
August 5, 2009 6:49:27 PM

yes, I'm talking about the computer I linked to. I was responding to your previous post when you said you wanted a computer that would last...I was pointing out that i7 is currently the most "future proof" platform you can buy, so if that is your criteria the computer I linked to is the best choice for you.
August 5, 2009 9:56:34 PM

Ok, so I've been doing a good amount of research and I have concluded that THIS is pretty much what I am going to get. Some feedback would be nice!

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner LightScribe Support - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec Nine Hundred + EA650 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 650W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drives - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS VW246H Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 20000:1) Built in Speakers - Retail
With HDCP support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE 100270SR Radeon HD 4850 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBPI - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



What do you guys think?? Any compatibility issues? Graphics card good enough?
August 5, 2009 10:29:12 PM

Anyone?? Hoping to purchase before 6PM tonight
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2009 10:33:13 PM

The motherboard and RAM you picked aren't compatible. That motherboard requires DDR2 RAM. I'd swap the motherboard for an AM3 one that supports DDR3 RAM.
August 5, 2009 10:34:44 PM

Any good suggestions for that shortstuff?
August 6, 2009 4:12:06 AM

OK GUYS! I will be buying very, very soon. One last confirmation if it looks good! Thanks for all your input guys!

EDIT:
SAPPHIRE 100270SR Radeon HD 4850 X2 2GB 512-bit (256-bit x 2) GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(these are sold out, other viable options maybe?)


SAMSUNG DVD Burner Black SATA Model SH-S223L LightScribe Support - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital RE3 WD1002FBYS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS VW246H Black 24" 2ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL7D-4GBPI - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor Model HDZ955FBGIBOX - Retail
&
BIOSTAR TForce TA790GX A3+ AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Antec TruePower New TP-750 Blue 750W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.3 / EPS12V V2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE ... - Retail
&
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...


TOTAL: $1323.87 with tax+shipping.

What do you guys think!!!
!