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August 5, 2009 4:56:35 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within the next two months

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Day to Day activities (email,internet, watching videos), Gaming, Schoolwork

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Need Everything unfortunatly.

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Canadian websites, for free shipping :D 

PARTS PREFERENCES: Intel.

OVERCLOCKING: NO
SLI OR CROSSFIRE: NO

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: IT HAS TO BE RELIABLE. I CANNOT STRESS THIS ENOUGH. It has to last a good 3 years. I dont need overheating issues. I dont need the fans to be blazing 24/7. I might also leave the computer on for long periods of time (a day or two, maybe a week). I dont rly care if its not future proof, bc I'll probably get a new one after 3 years. It has to play games at a decent level now and in the future.

Also I'm open to any retail choices or something not custom built.
August 5, 2009 5:02:47 PM

I would take a look at any one of the number of core i7 builds that are currently up on here for a starting point. They really don't differ by a whole lot, and are the best performers right now for a reasonable price. If you have more concern with a budget, high end Phenom II's are a good choice. A budget would help single out parts also
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2009 5:07:13 PM

wathman said:
A budget would help single out parts also

The "$1500 Computer. Gaming and Reliable." title isn't good enough?
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August 5, 2009 5:09:23 PM

If you want a good, quiet, fast, reliable computer i7 will go over the $1500 with a monitor and good quality card.

A 955 AMD x4 chip will get you a really good price and leave you room for more things.

What type of games do you plan on playing?


Was about to say the same thing shortstuff.
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2009 5:19:53 PM

A nice i7 build can be done on the $1500 CAN budget. Just pick up whatever keyboard and mouse you want.

Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1600LV6GK - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Item... $432.98 (CPU + RAM combo)

ASUS P6T SE LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Item... $414.98 - $15.00 MIR (motherboard + OS combo)

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $69.99

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $165.49

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $79.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $114.99 - $20.00 MIR

ASUS VW224U Black 22" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ HDCP Support 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 5000:1) Built in Speakers - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $179.99 - $20.00 MIR

Total - $1,458.41 - $55.00 MIR's
August 5, 2009 5:37:50 PM

fullmetall said:
If you want a good, quiet, fast, reliable computer i7 will go over the $1500 with a monitor and good quality card.

A 955 AMD x4 chip will get you a really good price and leave you room for more things.

What type of games do you plan on playing?


Was about to say the same thing shortstuff.


I'm currently playing Team Fortress 2. Basically any source engine game. I know they don't require much anyways so its not rly helpful, but for scope I'd like to play starcraft 2 if it ever comes out.
August 5, 2009 5:40:35 PM

shortstuff_mt said:
A nice i7 build can be done on the $1500 CAN budget. Just pick up whatever keyboard and mouse you want.

Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1600LV6GK - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682...

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Item... $432.98 (CPU + RAM combo)

ASUS P6T SE LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Item... $414.98 - $15.00 MIR (motherboard + OS combo)

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $69.99

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $165.49

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $79.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $114.99 - $20.00 MIR

ASUS VW224U Black 22" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ HDCP Support 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 5000:1) Built in Speakers - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $179.99 - $20.00 MIR

Total - $1,458.41 - $55.00 MIR's


I personally prefer my speakers not built in. So if i can get a alternative w/ that speaker it would be brilliant, and you also forgot the optical drive....
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2009 5:47:11 PM

If you don't think you'll ever add another GPU in crossfire you could save enough money by downgrading the PSU to pay for some speakers. I also forgot a DVD burner, but the build still comes pretty close to your budget for a very nice system.

CORSAIR CMPSU-550VX 550W ATX12V V2.2 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $98.49 - $20 MIR

PC Power & Cooling Silencer PPCS500D 500W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i7 - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $79.99
August 5, 2009 5:55:28 PM

The build does sound good and frankly im impressed. But i know with tax and such, the build will come over 1500 which unfortunatly goes out of my budget range. Any suggestions?
August 5, 2009 6:12:30 PM

The AMD 4 955 setup should do the job. A basic alternative for an i7.
August 5, 2009 6:16:57 PM

fullmetall said:
The AMD 4 955 setup should do the job. A basic alternative for an i7.

i did say i preferred intel. This doesnt mean only I7...
August 5, 2009 6:21:39 PM

Not sure if it will keep you in budget or not, but it can help. There's a deals website I use, www.ebates.com that will give you a 2% cash back rebate on your newegg purchase once you've registered, login and go through their portal page. They offer small cash back percentages for lots of other sites also, but I mainly just use it when I'm buying from newegg. They are pretty easy to deal with as it's all automatic, they only pay out your cash back quarterly though, so it could be a while before you get it. They also can deposit directly to your paypal account so you don't even need to worry about checks in the mail.
August 5, 2009 6:52:01 PM

Is there any advice about buying somethign along these lines with Dell?
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2009 6:55:37 PM

timestep said:
Is there any advice about buying somethign along these lines with Dell?

You're asking about a Dell in a "Homebuilt Systems" forum? You're not going to find much love for Dell around here. :) 
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2009 6:58:19 PM

I'm not sure why you're anti-AMD, but AMD is currently a better choice than the Core 2 line in the mid-range segment. Core 2 lived a great life, but it's being phased out. I can come up with a very nice AMD build if you can get over your Intel bias.
August 5, 2009 7:09:35 PM

If you can convince me that AMD is reliable and wont overheat then alright sure. But my encounters with AMD rigs have usually led to noisy fans and alot of overheating (my laptop).
My computers with intel have rarely ever crashed or overheated and are usually efficient. RIP my P4.

But yea if you can whip up a nice AMD setup sure fire away.
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2009 7:16:16 PM

The current 45nm AMD chips run just as cool as Intel chips. You certainly won't have any overheating problems if you install the HSF correctly and put it in a case like the Antec 300 listed above.

I'll post a build shortly.
a b 4 Gaming
August 5, 2009 7:26:28 PM

I can't seem to find the Phenom II X4 955 on the Canadian Newegg site, but the new 95W 945 is a very nice CPU. Here's a build around it.

AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium SP1 64-bit for System Builders w/ Tech Guarantee - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683...

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Item... $354.98 (CPU + OS combo)

GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 DDR3 AMD 790X ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $174.99

OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3RPR16004GK - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $79.99

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $69.99

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X Radeon HD 4870 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $165.49

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $79.99

CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681... $114.99 - $20.00 MIR

ASUS VW224U Black 22" 2ms(GTG) Widescreen LCD Monitor w/ HDCP Support 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 5000:1) Built in Speakers - Retail
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1682... $179.99 $20.00

Total - $1,220.41 - $40.00 MIR's
August 6, 2009 11:59:42 AM

Now, seeing how you have more than enough money, do you believe us? :) 

You can get a good setup on speakers/keyboard/mouse with the rest.
August 6, 2009 12:59:35 PM

shortstuff_mt said:
The current 45nm AMD chips run just as cool as Intel chips. You certainly won't have any overheating problems if you install the HSF correctly and put it in a case like the Antec 300 listed above.

I'll post a build shortly.


Would they last in the long term? Or would the just melt and die in 3 years? D:
Btw is it possible to "declock" the cpu and would that make it last longer or would it just damage it?
August 6, 2009 1:04:31 PM

^ it's more about volts and temps to add lifetime, however any CPU as long as it isn't overclocked to the max, will last 10 years of 24/7 usage.
a b 4 Gaming
August 6, 2009 2:51:24 PM

timestep said:
Would they last in the long term? Or would the just melt and die in 3 years? D:
Btw is it possible to "declock" the cpu and would that make it last longer or would it just damage it?

It sounds like you're still suffering from a bit of "anti-AMD" syndrome. :)  The Phenom II chips are quality CPU's that will last much longer than you'll want to use them for as long as you keep them within their recommended temp range.

I don't have any bias toward one company. I just buy what offers the best performance/price at the time. The Phenom II CPU's offer the best bang/buck and upgrade path in the mid-range segment at the moment. They certainly shouldn't be looked down on.

You can underclock a CPU, but I don't see any need in your case. A CPU is designed to last a very long time at its stock speeds. I don't know if extending the CPU life from say 10 years to 12 would help when you most likely won't even use it for over 5 years.
August 6, 2009 3:11:18 PM

I appreciate all the advice. I'm just concerned about the quality, bc I've had some bad experiences with bad builds.
I think I have an idea of what to expect and what i should do. I most definately will consider this build as my first choice. Though I probably wont be building it in the next few weeks, I'll be waiting for any deals or price drops.

Thanks alot.
!