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August 6, 2009 1:25:54 AM

Hello everyone,

I recently started reading this forum and got the bug to build a system. I've built a couple of them before but that was years ago and am now having to learn what's what again.

Today I snagged an i7 920 and an Intel DX58SO for $400 cash from a cool guy on craigslist and now I could use some expert help on what parts I can get and hopefully spend no more than $500 or $600 more.

I'm a newbie here so a little patience is appreciated. :) 

Thanks.





APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: In the next few days. BUDGET RANGE: $500 to $600, tax included for parts I need. $1000 total or so.

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com or anywhere else with a good deal. For instance, Fry's has the Antec 300 for $49 and I will consider that.

PARTS PREFERENCES: good quality stuff

OVERCLOCKING: Yes. SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Maybe

MONITOR RESOLUTION: 1920x1200

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS: quiet, cool(temp and grooviness)



These are some of the parts I've seen here on similar builds and they seem like what I'm looking for.

LG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE Vapor-X 100269VXLE Radeon HD 4890 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ Gold 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 DRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3G1600LV6GK - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER RS-700-AMBA-D3 700W ATX12V V2.3 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The case and the PSU come as a combo thanks to the info I got on this forum.

That comes to $574.94 and with tax of $47.43

Well, I'm still wondering about the case and video card as I've just started researching all this in the last week or two. What case is user friendly? In other words, easy to work on. Has removable trays, that sort of thing.

Anyway, I'll probably look around for a couple days more and order stuff on the weekend or shortly thereafter.

Thanks for looking and helping out the new guy. :) 

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August 6, 2009 2:22:53 AM

Thats actually a really solid build and a really good deal you got on the i7 and motherboard. If you plan to crossfire you want the corsair 750tx but it will cost you significantly more than that cooler master as there are no good combos with it, but i cant find a way to improve on it, nice job!

Frosty tech rates the core contact freezer significantly higher than the dark knight, its also significantly cheaper after MIR's
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 6, 2009 2:27:40 AM

same thoughts here. If you want to go with 2 graphics cards in the future, you'll want more power. With just the single card though, you should be fine.
August 6, 2009 2:43:17 AM

Oh, I guess I didn't add the cooler because I was thinking about getting that later. I was at Fry's earlier and I was reading an article in MaximumPC and they raved about the Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme RT 1366 Rev B CPU Cooler. Here's a link on their webpage. http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/dream_machine and a link to Thermalright. http://thermalright.com/

It's a little spendy and I might wait on that for awhile. I didn't see that cooler on Newegg.

Anyway, thanks for the encouragement. I'll keep reading and learning as I get closer to ordering it all.

I can't wait to fire it all up. That's usually when I forgot something and want to smash things. Hehe.
August 6, 2009 2:47:38 AM

The TRUE is still a great heatsink, however it is now quite hard to find. You will want to install the heatsink when you are doing the build initially because you will have to remove everything from the system when you chose to change the cooler in the future because there is a backplate you need to put on the back of the motherboard for any good aftermarket cooler.
August 6, 2009 2:58:07 AM

The only thing I can see is the MB doesn't offer as much OC support as most other aftermarket boards...it is similar to the oem boards they sell, and if came out of an oem machine the bios will be locked out to prevent any OC...but if you don't intend on extreme OCing you'll be fine.
August 6, 2009 3:28:38 AM

hunter315 said:
The TRUE is still a great heatsink, however it is now quite hard to find. You will want to install the heatsink when you are doing the build initially because you will have to remove everything from the system when you chose to change the cooler in the future because there is a backplate you need to put on the back of the motherboard for any good aftermarket cooler.


That's a very good point. I will look into some cooler and get that too.
August 6, 2009 3:32:38 AM

belial2k said:
The only thing I can see is the MB doesn't offer as much OC support as most other aftermarket boards...it is similar to the oem boards they sell, and if came out of an oem machine the bios will be locked out to prevent any OC...but if you don't intend on extreme OCing you'll be fine.


Actually I was kinda wondering about that. When I bought the board and cpu today it was kind of a spur of the moment thing. He originally wanted $450 and said he would be pretty firm on the price but when I offered him $400 and he said yes I figured I'd better just get it before somebody else did.

I was even thinking of maybe selling that board and getting a cheaper one. Any suggestions? Or maybe it's just too much trouble at this point and I should just go ahead and keep it. Still in the thinking/planning stages. Oh me, oh my.

August 6, 2009 3:40:34 AM

I don't know of any way to check if its an oem model or not other than breadboarding it and checking the bios. Other than the hassle you lose nothing by checking first before you decide to sell it...Toms just did a roundup of sub $200 x58 boards you might check out if you decide to replace it.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cheap-x58-motherboa...
August 6, 2009 3:51:45 AM

belial2k said:
I don't know of any way to check if its an oem model or not other than breadboarding it and checking the bios. Other than the hassle you lose nothing by checking first before you decide to sell it...Toms just did a roundup of sub $200 x58 boards you might check out if you decide to replace it.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/cheap-x58-motherboa...


Hmm, I still have the original owner's email address and I think I'll ask him about the board. He works at a computer store and says he builds computers all the time so I bet he knows. He even said he'd be glad to answer questions as I told him I'm new to this stuff again. Maybe he could even get me some deals on some of this stuff I need. :) 

Thanks for the info.
August 6, 2009 8:46:55 AM

Hmm, I'm thinking about going with Nvidia as I've never had a problem with them.

How about this recertified one:
Recertified: EVGA 01G-P3-1280-RX GeForce GTX 280 1GB 512-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card
90 day manufacturer warranty
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Haha, check this out:

COOLER MASTER COSMOS 1000 RC-1000-KSN1-GP Black/ Silver Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail
(limit 999 per customer)

Darn, and I was really hoping to buy 1000 of them.

Is that a fluke or do they do that on more items? First time I've seen that.
August 6, 2009 10:07:20 AM

you got ripped off on the i7 and mobo, Intel were selling that bundle for $300, so my guess is that he just made $100.
August 6, 2009 3:58:21 PM

Helloworld_98, what's the point to tell him that?. He already bought it and he is happy, why would you want to make him feel bad?.

Gravitar, don't go with recertified or ever buy from an unknow source again, when you spend 400 bucks on something you allways want a place to return it if the parts fail after some month from buying it. If you want Nvidia go with a GTX 275 as gkay told you.
August 6, 2009 5:54:53 PM

Helloworld_98 said:
you got ripped off on the i7 and mobo, Intel were selling that bundle for $300, so my guess is that he just made $100.


Yah, thanks for making my day. Where did you find that for $300? I looked around before buying it and never came close to that. Plus I didn't have to pay tax.
August 6, 2009 5:56:14 PM

DarkMantle said:
Helloworld_98, what's the point to tell him that?. He already bought it and he is happy, why would you want to make him feel bad?.

Gravitar, don't go with recertified or ever buy from an unknow source again, when you spend 400 bucks on something you allways want a place to return it if the parts fail after some month from buying it. If you want Nvidia go with a GTX 275 as gkay told you.


Well, it seemed like a steal at the time but maybe not.

Yah, recertified sends a flag but I figured I'd ask and see what response I got.

August 6, 2009 7:18:29 PM

gravitar said:
Oh, I guess I didn't add the cooler because I was thinking about getting that later. I was at Fry's earlier and I was reading an article in MaximumPC and they raved about the Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme RT 1366 Rev B CPU Cooler. Here's a link on their webpage. http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/dream_machine and a link to Thermalright. http://thermalright.com/


MaximumPC used a Rosewill PSU for their budget rig!?!?!?! I thought that was supposed to be a big "no-no"....
August 7, 2009 3:57:42 AM

@Gravitar the WD 750GB ones are old...the WD Black 640GB and the 1TB ones are the newer ones and are more efficient and faster as they have higher density platters compared to the 750GB one...
August 7, 2009 4:08:15 AM

gkay09 said:
@Gravitar the WD 750GB ones are old...the WD Black 640GB and the 1TB ones are the newer ones and are more efficient and faster as they have higher density platters compared to the 750GB one...


Okay, thanks for the info. I figured that since the part numbers were the same, except the size, that it would be just a larger drive with everything else the same.

I'll go back to the 640.
August 7, 2009 4:44:51 AM

DarkMantle said:
Here is a combo deal with the memory you want and the 1TB WD HD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Its a -7 bucks deal but the 1 TB will be just 10 more bucks than the 640GB one, i think it's worth it, but it's up to you :)  .


That is a pretty sweet deal but I'm getting real close to my available cash limit. I'll give it some more thought though.

Thanks.

August 7, 2009 4:50:47 AM

Here's what I have so far and I'm pretty happy with that except I'm not so sure about the case. It's a fine looking one and a good combo deal but I'm just wondering if there's anything better at about the same price.

What's a popular case that people are happy with? Any suggestions? I've been looking but am having a hard time deciding on that particular item.


August 7, 2009 5:08:34 AM

Well as you said before you are probably over your budget right now, that case is pretty good in my opinion but i dont like that PSU all that much because it only have 2x 6+2 PCI-E connectors, it's true that a GTX 275 is enough for your resolution right now, but we don't know what games will ask for later on if i were you i will try to save just a bit more money and go with this combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... , the case is better than the Storm Scout and that PSU have enough connectors for another video card if needed later on, it is 35 buck more, but i think it gives you room for upgrade if needed, the rest of your build is quite good :)  .
August 7, 2009 4:22:26 PM

Actually on a second thought even with that combo the CM 700W PSU is more expensive than the Corsair 750W http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... it's 99.99 After MIR and free shipping, that one is a damn good PSU for the price, way better than the PSU you mentioned before.
The CM HAF 922 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... is 99.99 and also free shipping, it has more room, better cable management and better air flow just for 10 bucks more than the Storm scout. So in the end it will cost you a bit more, but you will have some really good quality parts that will last your for long.
August 7, 2009 4:52:13 PM

there isnt much different between those cases, I personally like the scout, at least looks better than 922, quality, dont get fulled by the price, the scout has more quality than an antec 900, just as much as an antec 902, side is convinient and has the handles at the top, i mean is up to you and if i was you i would buy the cheapest, Scout vs 922 there is no winer( http://www.overclock.net/computer-cases/504751-final-ro... ) just re-think what are you needs, the only different between those to cases is size, 922 is a bit bigger, but the scout will house all your components as well. i will go for the scout as is cheaper in the egg ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ) and +1 to the corsair psu.
August 7, 2009 5:14:09 PM

Just FYI, if you built any of that config yesterday, recheck the combo deals. Saw a lot of new ones today.
August 9, 2009 8:22:16 PM

Well, I decided after all that planning to go another route and instead of ordering it on newegg and waiting for it I just went down to my local Fry's Electronics store and bought it all there. Yes, I spent more that way but I have it all now and if anything goes wrong with any of the parts I can just return it and not have to fool with shipping and all that RMA crap.

I almost didn't buy it all there because a few days ago they didn't have the WD Black HD that I wanted but yesterday they did so I got everything I needed at Fry's.

If I see any ads in the next 30 days at that store that have lower prices I'll go back and get a price difference.


Here's what I ended up getting:

WD HD Black 1TB $109.99

Corsair DDR3 Triple Channel 6GB 2X3 $99 after $15 MIR = $84

Corsair 750W PSU $134.99

CoolerMaster Bundle: HAF 922 $95.29 and a MassCooler 7WA001 $39.70 after rebates, $99. So a free cooler and from what I read a decent one. We'll see.

PNY GTX 275 896MB $249.99 after rebate $219.99

LG 22X DVD Lightscribe $49.99, instant rebate $39.99

All total with a bag of $1.69 licorice it came to $771.63 and CA 8.75% tax of $67.37. Total $839.00

So with the $400 I spent on an i7 920 and an Intel DX58SO a GRAND TOTAL of $1239, minus $80 in rebates that comes to $1159 minus the licorice. :) 

Anyway, sorry for the long read. Like I said, I could have done better on newegg but some things were even cheaper like the memory and a free cooler. Plus I didn't have to worry about UPS banging up those parts.

I went over my budget but I'm happy with it all. I got what I wanted and now all I have to do is put it all together.

It's been awhile since I built a system. Does anyone have any helpful hints that will make it go smoothly? What usually goes wrong? What do you think I need to know at this point?

Thanks again for all your help. I couldn't have done it without this forum and all the helpful people here.

I'll let you know how it goes.

P. S. I currently have an HP m7760n Desktop with 4gigs, E6400 CPU and a 8600 GT card. It does alright but the other day I decided to max it out on Crysis at 4XAA 1920X1200 and everything HIGH and it would only do about 10fps before it gave up and crashed a few minutes later. :) 

Hopefully this new system will kick ass.

Oh yah, I downloaded Windows 7 RC 64bit and put it on a disk. That'll work into next year so that's cool.



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