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Quote from local shop- any good? 1050$

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August 6, 2009 3:11:50 AM

Hello! Hope you can help me out (again!)

Computer needed for Autocad, Photoshop, Watching videos and the usual. No gaming.

Need some advice on the following build proposed by a local shop for 1050$ Canadian or 960$ US:

Intel® DP35DP - ATX - Intel® P35 Chipset
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 Dual Core Processor LGA775 3.0GHZ Wolfdale 1333FSB 6MB Retail
Kingston Dual Channel 2048MB PC6400 DDR2 800MHz Memory
Western Digital SE16 320GB SATA2 7200RPM 16MB 8.9MS Hard Drive OEM 3 Year MFR Warranty
ASUS EN8400GS SILENT/HTP/512M GeForce 8400 GS 512MB
HP 20X DVDRW SATA Retail
Antec NSK3480 MicroATX Tower Case w/Antec Earthwatt 380W PS - Black/ Silver
COMFORT CURVE KEYBRD 2000 FR USB MAC/WIN CANADA HDWR BLACK
Logitech Optical PS2 Mouse - OEM
Acer X203HBD 20" Widescreen LCD 1600x900 10,000:1 300 cd/m2 5ms VGA DVI

For some reason, they build the system in very small case... Plus they seem to be using cheaper parts?

Too expensive? Any improvements possible?

Thanks
August 6, 2009 3:19:15 AM

Totally wrong for what you need, for CAD and photoshop you need 4GB of ram and a quad core. Consider an AMD build with a low end graphics card, it should come out significantly cheaper than that and suit your needs better.
August 6, 2009 3:22:04 AM

I would try to get a quad core with more RAM if possible, as well as possibly a better graphics card. But no, that's not a horrible deal. Finally, maybe thing about choosing a different socket, such as AM3?

Edit: Argh... :) 
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August 6, 2009 3:26:06 AM

For that budget maybe something like this would be good:

AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ Flex EX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Enhanced Bandwidth Desktop
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MSI R4670-2D512/D3 Radeon HD 4670 512MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I think that comes to around $650 and it's WAY better than the local shop's build
August 6, 2009 3:52:24 AM

Thanks for the help!

I was a bit worried about the dual core and the ram!

August 6, 2009 3:56:38 AM

Thats a very good build by jbakerlent, much better than the one you were looking at before. It should still be well within budget even with monitor and the higher Canadian prices.
August 6, 2009 4:27:34 AM

If you are pretty serious with the CAD and photoshop you'll want as much memory as you can get, the fastest HDDs you can get, and the fastest quad core you can get. I wouldn't suggest anything less than a 22inch monitor unless you have a LCD HDtv you can use as a monitor. You won't need much of a power supply or video card. Overall I like the build above, but if you are moving big files around you'll need more storage than that...You might also consider a cheap 775MB with a Q9550...you'll get a little more processor speed out of that combo when OCed, although it will cost you about $50 - $75 more.
August 6, 2009 4:45:06 AM

Right, you go price out a workstation class computer for under about $1200 and come back and post that, im curious what you can come up with.
August 6, 2009 5:31:41 AM

you are not seriously recommending an old dual core for heavily threaded cpu heavy work are you?
August 6, 2009 1:22:33 PM

well OP's best bet would be to find a graphics card that he can soft mod into a workstation card so he doesn't have to pay full price, anyone have the running list of soft mod gpu's

jbakerlent's build is good, but since you are in canada it will be a bit more pricey (check newegg.ca), also he forgot the keyboard/mouse and monitor
August 6, 2009 1:30:08 PM

you could try to softmod that 4670 into a FirePro V5700
August 7, 2009 1:58:33 PM

Thanks again for the replies.

So far, I've gathered that for AutoCad:

Would be preferable to have a quad core processor (AMD giving more bang for the $)
4 GB for RAM

Now I'm a bit confused with the workstation card. Is that necessary? Also, I read up a bit on softmoding but I'm not sure how that works...
!