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exceeda88   08-27-2009 at 05:06:18 AM

here to ask, is the game that made base by geforce chipset is better played on geforce graphic card rather than ati??and vice versa..
and if yes, how big is the quality different..



ati Hd3650 (ddr3) vs geforce 8600 GT (ddr2)

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you can always OC your CPU. I got a 4800+ X2 that was easy to get to 3Ghz. You bump the voltage to 1.350v, Low the HT/LDT BUS to 800Mhz and bump the HT Link to 232 or 240 Mhz.

Update drivers for you ati, install a 64 Bits OS ( Vista OS, or 7). And gets ready to steamroll over your mate lappy.
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darkvine   08-27-2009 at 05:18:35 AM

Well it really comes down to the card and the game. Between those two cards the ATI would almost surely going to be better on any games based on nvidia technology.

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TimeWarrior   08-27-2009 at 05:33:09 AM

I don't know what the 3650 is like but DON'T buy a 8600gt with ddr2! They perform worse than the 7600gt and for comparable money you can get much much better cards. Look at the 4670 (ddr3) and the 9600gso and ask youself whether you can afford the price difference because the performance difference will probably be worth it.
That said, ATI is meant to work better on Steam games (Half-Life, etc) but Nvidia takes it out in a few other big titles.

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mindless728   08-27-2009 at 05:49:46 AM

are you planning on buying either of those now???

if so look at the ati 4670 or even the 4650

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Jaysin   08-27-2009 at 07:33:23 AM

http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 387-2.html

As you can see the above two mentioned cards (4650/4670) are two of Tom's best values for the performance they offer and should be considered instead of your ideas.

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exceeda88   08-27-2009 at 10:55:46 AM

i am not going to buy it, i already have ati HD3650. but my friend has geforce 8600gt on his laptop, and SF4 in running better on his machine, that frustrated. and i heard that SF4 is made base on Geforce chip, that is why i ask..

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megamanx00   08-27-2009 at 10:31:38 PM

NVidia and ATI have taken different rounts in designing their GPUs. As such shader code that is made to be efficient on ATI cards isn't always so efficient on nVidia cards, and vice versa. The performance of ATI cards in particular varies since it's shaders are organized into groups of 5 and depending on the thread they are given only one stream may be active, or all 5 can be active. It really depends on the order in which the variables are multiplied, while in the nVidia architecture each shader can operate independently. Of course, it's a bit more complicated than that, so if you really want to know you should research it.

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exceeda88   08-28-2009 at 05:32:27 AM

Shadow703793 wrote :

^Full specs?


my rig
Ati HD 3650 512 ddr3
Abit AX78 amdx2 4800+ 2.5 GHz
3Gb RAM


my friends rig
laptop inspiron 1520
geforce 8600gt 256Mb ddr2
intel core 2 duo t7150 2.0 GHz
2GB Ram

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exceeda88   08-28-2009 at 05:34:52 AM

megamanx00 wrote :

NVidia and ATI have taken different rounts in designing their GPUs. As such shader code that is made to be efficient on ATI cards isn't always so efficient on nVidia cards, and vice versa. The performance of ATI cards in particular varies since it's shaders are organized into groups of 5 and depending on the thread they are given only one stream may be active, or all 5 can be active. It really depends on the order in which the variables are multiplied, while in the nVidia architecture each shader can operate independently. Of course, it's a bit more complicated than that, so if you really want to know you should research it.



where can i start my research??any suggestion??

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exceeda88   08-28-2009 at 05:35:56 AM

my question is really a game my with geforce gpu will have poorer quality if played using ati base gpu...

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darkvine   08-28-2009 at 05:40:17 AM

No not in the slightest. It just means your card has to work a bit harder then the nvidia card would have. That is all it boils down to.

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radnor   08-28-2009 at 02:24:24 PM
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you can always OC your CPU. I got a 4800+ X2 that was easy to get to 3Ghz. You bump the voltage to 1.350v, Low the HT/LDT BUS to 800Mhz and bump the HT Link to 232 or 240 Mhz.

Update drivers for you ati, install a 64 Bits OS ( Vista OS, or 7). And gets ready to steamroll over your mate lappy.

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mousemonkey   08-28-2009 at 02:27:44 PM

Or change your graphic card, because you can.

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radnor   08-28-2009 at 04:19:17 PM

mousemonkey wrote :

Or change your graphic card, because you can.



No need, that CPU and GPU are quite balanced. Only is worth it if he overclocks the CPU, witch he should do anyway.

In this case i speak from practical experience. I had this cpu with a 4850 512. Hes got a good CPU that at 3 Ghz gives very decent performance. I lapped mine at the time even reducing 10ยบ in temp. and Btw, i was using a crap mATX board (Asus A2M-VM) with 533Mhz DDR 2 memory.

Save your money for a better rig, overcclock that cpu. If you need help just post with questions.

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TimeWarrior   08-29-2009 at 10:20:32 AM

It just occurred to me that your friend's cpu is probably a bit better than yours, the graphics cards should be roughly equal. Might be the limiting factor so it might be a good idea to overclock, but not to 3.0GHz if you arn't completely comfortable with changing voltage.

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exceeda88   08-31-2009 at 01:12:27 AM

radnor wrote :

you can always OC your CPU. I got a 4800+ X2 that was easy to get to 3Ghz. You bump the voltage to 1.350v, Low the HT/LDT BUS to 800Mhz and bump the HT Link to 232 or 240 Mhz.

Update drivers for you ati, install a 64 Bits OS ( Vista OS, or 7). And gets ready to steamroll over your mate lappy.


thanks,you r really helpful..,its just a matter of time b4 i oc my pc.i was saving some money to buy good fan..

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