Advice on these 2 $500 and below builds
4lc4pon3
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Tuesday
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: (Gaming and blueray)
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: I dont need the parts i have listed to you in the build and nothing else
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: zip or egg who ever is cheaper
PARTS PREFERENCES: by brand or type: No preference
OVERCLOCKING: Yes / No / Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: NO and yes crossfire
MONITOR RESOLUTION: ( Acer h233h 23 inch 1920x1080)
Ok everyone ive decided to drop the price of my build down alot because my birthday is the 9th of august and my wife asked me what i wanted so she bought 2 4890's and a new case. so i dont need anything but the part listed below. This pc is strictly for gaming and no overclocking.
OCZ OCZ3P16004GK 4GB PC3-12800+ (DDR3-1600+) DDR3 Memory
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10008207
ANTEC EA650 EarthWatts Series 650W SLI Active Power Supply
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010587
MSI 790FX-GD70 AMD 790FX AM3 Phenom II/Athlon X4/Athlon X3/Athlon X2 Socket AM3 5200 MT/s PC3-10600 (DDR3-1333) ATX Motherboard
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010173
AMD HDZ955FBGIBOX Phenom II x4, Black Edition 3.2Ghz 955
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010385
Subtotal: $510.87
like i said no overclocking at all but i also dont want to bottleneck my cards that much. any other suggestions if very highly recommended. from what ive heard is that the ea650 can run crossfire 4890s from users on hardocp
SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: (Gaming and blueray)
PARTS NOT REQUIRED: I dont need the parts i have listed to you in the build and nothing else
PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: zip or egg who ever is cheaper
PARTS PREFERENCES: by brand or type: No preference
OVERCLOCKING: Yes / No / Maybe SLI OR CROSSFIRE: NO and yes crossfire
MONITOR RESOLUTION: ( Acer h233h 23 inch 1920x1080)
Ok everyone ive decided to drop the price of my build down alot because my birthday is the 9th of august and my wife asked me what i wanted so she bought 2 4890's and a new case. so i dont need anything but the part listed below. This pc is strictly for gaming and no overclocking.
OCZ OCZ3P16004GK 4GB PC3-12800+ (DDR3-1600+) DDR3 Memory
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10008207
ANTEC EA650 EarthWatts Series 650W SLI Active Power Supply
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010587
MSI 790FX-GD70 AMD 790FX AM3 Phenom II/Athlon X4/Athlon X3/Athlon X2 Socket AM3 5200 MT/s PC3-10600 (DDR3-1333) ATX Motherboard
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010173
AMD HDZ955FBGIBOX Phenom II x4, Black Edition 3.2Ghz 955
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010385
Subtotal: $510.87
like i said no overclocking at all but i also dont want to bottleneck my cards that much. any other suggestions if very highly recommended. from what ive heard is that the ea650 can run crossfire 4890s from users on hardocp
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ive come up with one other build also for you to look at.
ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131366
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371015
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231189
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666)
AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM3 125W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103675
Subtotal: $469.96 -
the 790fx isnt worth the price, look into the 790x and gx's only.
take the gigabyte you chose in the 2nd post.
Since this is gaming, you arent going to need ddr3 1333, no big performance difference in ddr3 and ddr2 for gaming.
Get ddr2 1066 g.skills/ocz.
since that will drop the price down to $50's instead of $80 for memory, you can get the corsair 650tx instead of the antec 650w. -
ok his is what i came up with
955 build
AMD HDZ955FBGIBOX Phenom II x4, Black Edition 3.2Ghz,8MB Cache,125W,45nm 3.20 GHz AM3 4 x 512KB Desktop Processor
ANTEC EA650 EarthWatts Series 650W SLI Active Power Supply
GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AMD 790X AM3 Phenom II Socket AM3 5200 MT/s PC3-10600 (DDR3-1333) ATX
OCZ OCZ2P10664GK 4GB PC2-8500 (DDR2-1066) DDR2 Memory
Subtotal: $435.96 - free shipping
945 build
AMD HDX945WFGIBOX Phenom II X4 3.00 GHz 4000 MHz AM3 4 x 512KB Desktop Processor
ANTEC EA650 EarthWatts Series 650W SLI Active Power Supply
GIGABYTE GA-MA790XT-UD4P AMD 790X AM3 Phenom II Socket AM3 5200 MT/s PC3-10600 (DDR3-1333) ATX
OCZ OCZ2P10664GK 4GB PC2-8500 (DDR2-1066) DDR2 Memory
Subtotal: $$418.96- free shipping -
Amd recommends a psu with 4 6-pin pci-e connectors and 600 watts for dual 4890 cards:
http://ati.amd.com/products/radeonhd4800/requirements-4890.html
The Antec is a good quality psu with enough watts, but it only has 2 pcie connectors. You can use the adapters that come with the 4890 cards, but I would avoid that if I could.
A corsair 750TX would cost you $20 more, but would be a safer psu choice.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006 -
ok here is the build and how bad will my 2 4890s bottneck on this?
Foxconn A7DA-S AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W
$414.96
k what about this. i keep the antec 650 and drop to x2 4850's? i already own 1 so i can just bring the 4890's back and get another 4850 -
4lc4pon3 said:ok here is the build and how bad will my 2 4890s bottneck on this?
Foxconn A7DA-S AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
Antec EarthWatts EA650 650W
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500)
AMD Phenom II X4 940 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM2+ 125W
$414.96
k what about this. i keep the antec 650 and drop to x2 4850's? i already own 1 so i can just bring the 4890's back and get another 4850
A single 4890 should give you exceptional 1920 x 1200 performance in most games according to tom's:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-graphics-card,2362-4.html
Why not keep a single 4890? Sell the 4850, and return the second 4890. You will save some money to spend elsewhere. -
well actually i didn even think bout it being an fx ddr3 board but if you wanna least be able to keep your board till 2012 go am3 an that board i mentioned has 4 pcie slots wich means maybe quad fire in time an with the huge possibility of a 6 core desktop chip from amd in late 2010 early 2011 being am3 compatible an not am2+ or am2 compatible am3 is the future well maybe for the next few yrs while am2+ should be phased out by next yr oa bit later depending on ddr3 pricing drops
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The main difference in that the 790gx has on board graphics and is a little improved energy efficiency if you ever go to CrossFire the GX will only run at 16x8 and not 16x16 like an FX chipset. And if the BIOS defaults you have to disable the onboard graphics .The FX is supposedly 2-3% faster, but you would never be able to tell the difference
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ok this is what i got
MSI 790FX-GD70 AMD 790FX AM3
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX TX 750W Power Supply
AMD Phenom II x4 955, Black Edition 3.2Ghz,8MB Cache,125W
OCZ OCZ3X16004GK 4GB PC3-12800+ (DDR3-1600+) DDR3 Memoryhttp://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10008948
the memory is out of stock but it should be back in stock by tuesday.
price: 522 -
GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready Crossfire Ready
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor
$434.96
my g/f returned the 4890's and i picked up a second HIS 4850 turbo 650/2000. im sure this will all run together -
Not to restir the pot on the FX/GX debate, but this test setup (P45vX48) using 4850s does so real world differences.
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1472/intel_p45_vs_x48_crossfire_performance/index.html -
Quote:Ok everyone ive decided to drop the price of my build down alot because my birthday is the 9th of august and my WIFE asked me what i wanted so she bought 2 4890's and a new case. so i dont need anything but the part listed below. This pc is strictly for gaming and no overclocking.4lc4pon3 said:my g/f returned the 4890's and i picked up a second HIS 4850 turbo 650/2000. im sure this will all run together
One other BIG item, in the first post, you said you're WIFE got you the 4890s and now, 24hrs later, you have a GIRLFRIEND doing your dirty work? If your wife let you get a girlfriend instead of keeping the second 4890, she is a very good woman!!!!!!!! -
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If your wife let you get a girlfriend instead of keeping the second 4890, she is a very good woman!!!!!!!!
But what a poor girlfriend if she is returning the twin 4890s your wife was going to give you and forcing you to just pick up a second 4850 to match what you already had. Don't let her play with you PC. How did she get them from your wife? -
HaHa im not married to her its kind of a Habit. I tend to say g/f then wife were getting married but not till next year.
the only reason i took the 4890s back and got a matching 4850 is because i just bought this 4850 about 2 weeks ago and i didnt just want the mess around with selling it. i am a very impatient person to be honest and when i gotta screw around 2 much i get frusterated.
on the Jon Gosslin comment i wouldnt want to be in his shoes, hes got psycho x-wife, a loser g/f and 8 kids that hes about to lose. im with 1 girl and a daughter so im good right now -
ok everyone im ordering tomorrow so heres your chance to say yes or no. Gaming only. 2 4850 turbos 650/2000 Res 1920x1080
GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 790X
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready Crossfire Ready
G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066
AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor
$434.96 -
The cooler can be added later and the stock fan will allow for some OCing. So I wouldn't worry about it right now.
For the extra little bit, I'd go for the AM3 board with DDR3 ram. Looking maybe $20 more and theres a good chance when you upgrade later, you can use the ram.
I'd also make sure you get the 95w version vs the 125w. Won't make a lick of difference if you aren't OC and probably none if you do. Just uses less power and spends less money in the long run. -
skora can u show me what mobo and ram would only bring my price up 20 dollars more.
what i got in my cart now is
ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire
AMD Phenom II X4 945 Deneb 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad
OCZ Reaper HPC 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)
$479.96 -
Using ZZF,
945 + Gigabyte 790XT-UD4P = $283
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10010872
You'll have to add the mobo in from the combo, ZZF applies it to the cart and not its own sku.
OCZ Platinum 4gig DDR3 1600 kit $80
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10008207
Corsair 650TX $97-$10 mir.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10007111
Total $460 before rebates, $450 after. (all free shipping)
I think it was you that hates rebates, but if you are going to send it in, get the PSU and ram from newegg and the rest from zzf. That total would be $438. Only $4 more than the Am2+ build. Well worth it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820144264 -
4lc4pon3 said:i am debating an aftermarket cooler because im not 100% sure i want to overclock
Get the oem cooler up front. Your PC will run cooler and quieter. To properly mount a cooler, you need to do it with the motherboard out of the case. I hate the risk of taking a properly working pc apart to do this later.
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