$500 budget gaming pc

I'm sorry, but I didn't see any parts that I would use in that build. This build comes in just over $500 and would be a much better machine.

Antec Three Hundred + BP430 Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 430W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129065 $99.99

AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819103681 $79.00

GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813128392 $84.99

GeIL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10660) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model GV34GB1333C7DC - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820144264 $74.99

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD3200AAKS 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] wd3200aaks $49.99

XFX HD-485X-YDFC Radeon HD 4850 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFire Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814150337 $109.99

SAMSUNG Black 22X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 22X DVD-R 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA DVD Burner LightScribe Support - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151188 $28.99

Total - $527.94

I would highly suggest considering getting 64-bit Vista with a free upgrade coupon to Windows 7 so you can use all 4GB of RAM. You can save $15 if you get the OS in a combo with the case listed above.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] 11-129-065

Since this is a budget build and used just for gaming, don't worry too much about the windows 64. You'll have over 3 gigs of memory from what XP will see and the XP memory footprint is small. My unoptimized 32 bit XP running a few browsing windows only uses 800 megs. That leaves 2.5 gigs for programs. I looked the other night out of curiosity, Fallout 3 only uses 500 megs. There's no games that will come close to using all that ram.

Are you able to use your old optical drives also? Might be a way to save some cash and bring you back under budget.

Also ShortStuff, Proximon has that basiq PSU as a tier 3 and has no faith in it. HardOPC didn't have a review on it specifically, but they did have the 500.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/200 [...] roundup/17
Not sure if the 430 is going to slip further or not.

Thanks for the responses and i appreciate the input.

Shortstuff just wondering why u wouldnt use any parts that i picked. Also in any build how do u know if all the parts are compatible with each other? ive read lots of reviews on different components where a mobo doesnt sit well in a certain case or a graphics card blocks other expansion slots on the motherboard.

Skora i do have an old dvd burner but it doesnt write to any media unfortunately.

I agree with you 100%. the EA line is quality stuff. But the bundle with the case is the BP430 and not the EA430w.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817371023

enigma275
As for the build, for the price you could get more computer than what you have spec'd out. Shortstuff has given a good alternative build and is correct for his reasons to choose other parts. I would tweak it a touch though.

For $110 (Antec 300 + BP430 delivered), you can get a different case and better PSU. The big thing with both parts are they are big and heavy. When on the budget you are, shipping can eat 10% of the budget which is highly needed for better upgrades. So look for free shipping on both. I saw this case and it has decent buyer reviews (taken with a grain of salt.)

NZXT mid ATX $50-$10 mir + free shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811146055

PSU
I would pick any of these 3. All with free shipping
OCZ StealthXtreme 500w $40 amir
OCZ Fatality 550w $50 amir
Corsair 450w $60 amir
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341022

For the CPU and Mobo, the AM3 770 is a great choice. Good upgrade path and does well for a first time overclocker if you want to learn on. I would pick the Regor 245 though. Its $11 cheaper for only 100 mhz speed difference. Won't miss it and should still OC well. With this MSI 770 mobo combo, you save another $10 and both with free shipping.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.216801


ss_mt has good ram there

Now the last two parts choices come down to budget.
Both the 9800GTX+ and the 4850 are capable cards at 1280x1024 and perform similarly. If the free WoW is important, than the 9800GTX+ may be worth the extra few bucks for you. If that's the case, then the HDD that ss_mt has will fit the budget just fine.

If you decide on the 4850 for $90 amir with free shipping, then you can get a better HDD like the caviar black 500gb for $70.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136320

That will hit right around the $500 mark with the more expensive Corsair PSU. If you want the 9800GTX+ and the bigger HDD, then you'll have to get one of the OCZ PSUs.

Hope this helps.

I'm curious how the
AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz 2 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache
compares to the
AMD Athlon II X2 250 Regor 3.0GHz 2 x 1MB L2 Cache
in terms of basic performance and overclock ability. There's just a $10 price difference.

I think im gonna need an os after all. the win xp disk i have is a dell win xp restoration cd and from what ive read it probably wont work in anything but a dell pc. any way to tweak this to include an os and still keep the budget to about $500?

This build requires you to OC to make it awesome!!!!!!
GPU - MSI 4850 $90 amir w/ free game
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127414

CPU - E5200 combo - $86 amir
HSF - Sunbeam core contact freezer w/good goo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.234667

Mobo Asus G41 combo w/ 4gigs DDR2 1066 OCZ ram - $83 amir
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.234510

PSU OCZ 500w stealthxtreme $30 amir and Promo code EMCLWLT25 (must sign up for newegg newsletter to use.)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817341012

Case NZXT w/ Windows home premium 64bit w/ free Win 7 upgrade $135 amir
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] 11-146-055

Sata DVD burner $29
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827151188

HDD WD caviar blue 160gb $39.50
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136075

Total amir delivered - $503!!!!!

If you have another $20, this HDD w/ promo code EMCLWLT28
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] _-22136320

WARNING PROMO CODES expire 3am EDT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

My bad on the PSU in the combo. I could have sworn they had an Antec 300/EA430 combo at one point, but I probably just need my eyes checked.

Even then, The BP430 would still be considerably better than the POS Cooler Master PSU in the original post.

There is no rule to say one way or the other. All depends on what the purpose and use of the build is. If you are doing a build, use the link on my sig for how to ask for advise. That will also link to Proximons guide to choosing parts. Start there, give a paper build a shot, and post it. We'll all be happy to take a look and give constructive feedback.

I'd love to see the OP get a tri core setup too. But having to factor in the OS, I didn't see any way of it unless you drop the GPU to a 4670 or lower. Even then, the E5200, mobo, and ram is only costing $148. Spending $100 on the CPU alone and getting $30 from a lower GPU, ram and mobo for $78? I still don't know.

The other option, is to buy a decently equiped pre-built and upgrade the vid card and probalby the PSU also. If you can get that OCZ 500w for $30 and a 4850 for $90, that will leave about $375 to get a prebuilt. The OS will be included, but you won't really have any overclocking options. Not sure where to look for decent prebuilts. Maybe someone else can entertain that idea.

just came across this bundle

ASRock M3A780GXH/128M AM3 AMD 780G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
AMD Athlon II X2 245 Regor 2.9GHz Socket AM3 65W Dual-Core Processor Model ADX245OCGQBOX - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.229024

i was wondering what you all though about this motherboard. is the onboard video any good?

not sure about that mobo. doesnt look like it supports ddr3 (im a complete noob so maybe it does lol). but i did find this:
AMD Phenom II X2 545 Callisto 3.0GHz Socket AM3 80W Dual-Core Processor Model HDX545WFGIBOX - Retail
ASUS M4A785TD-V EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Comb [...] mbo.237631
its a bit more expensive but without purchasing a separate gpu the entire purchase will still be within budget. how is the on board gpu on this mobo?

L4D will be just out of playable frame rates with the onboard video of the best HD4200.
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 381-4.html

I'd stick out with the 4850 and the cpu/mobo you have. You can see just how powerful the 4850 is in todays article with L4D benched.
http://www.tomshardware.com/review [...] 64-12.html

Now if you want to turn off the eye candy and drop down to a 4670 like this $55 amir:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814127415
That cuts $55 out of your budget. That will let you get any of these with the MSI 770:

x3 720 $120 ($5 more)
x3 710 $100 ($15 less)
x2 550 $103 (12 less)

I'd opt for an x3, otherwise, you're not really upgrading the CPU much over the athlon x2.

3.4ghz stock cooler bout there been a bit higher tho an 3.8+ aftermarket cooler the ram is ok but you gonna have to set those ram yourself an one tip seems this board has acc so before you update your bios play round with that maybe you lucky an get a x4 out instead of a x3

Congrat!