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August 11, 2009 6:53:29 AM

Hey everyone, finally time to start building up a new PC as mine is 4 years old and is still rocking out a Pentium D!

I plan to do a lot of gaming, but I also intend to do live broadcasts on jtv and such. I'm going to use software to broadcast and this is VERY, VERY resource intensive. For example, if I stream basically anything at 320x240 resolution, it runs my Pentium D at around 70-80%, and with this new build I want to be streaming 720p resolutions.

Which means I need a very good processor, and probably a lot of overclocking. I basically want to go super overkill on cooling (while still using air) and hopefully get my overclock up to near 4ghz on an i7 920.

I probably won't have this computer finished 'till november/december, so a lot of the motherboard/GPU things and so on will change, but I have a feeling for the most part the cooling things won't change too much, so that's what I'm mainly focused on currently. But of course, talking about what to get for the other parts obviously doesn't hurt.

So, now that you all know what I plan to do with this computer, let me show you what I've been looking at thus far.

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (I plan to add an additional 3-4 120mm fans, and possibly replace the 2 230mm top fans with 3 120mm higher CFM fans.)

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (obvious, i7 920. I don't see this changing in the coming months)

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (I'm kinda noob with PSU's, but I want to build a system with an incredible base, and just upgrade the other things as needed. I want to get 5 years at least out of this PC, basically)

Mobo: Undecided, I'll probably end up getting something that's in a combo deal with another product. As I said before, I do want an incredible base, so I can just upgrade the other things as needed, so I want a great mobo. I want a great mobo for overclocking, and one to fit multiple huge GPUs, and so on.

RAM: Undecided, I do know I want 6 gigs, and obviously DDR3. I do plan on overclocking the RAM.

CPU cooler: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (Still unsure about this, not sure if this is the best. Would not mind a cheaper option, if that's possible while still getting a 4ghz overclock)

GPU: Again, undecided, but I do plan on getting a 1920x1080 monitor. I'll probably go with a GTX 285, unless the 295 comes way down. As I've said before, I'm not TOO concerned completely with the GPU, and more so the CPU and it's cooling, for live broadcasting purposes.

And here are the 120mm high CFM fans I plan on filling the case up with http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'm also thinking of getting Windows 7 to run this with, but I may change to Vista, depending on how well Windows 7 goes at launch. It's really expensive, so it's going to be a hard decision.

Well, thanks for reading through this guys, any help filling in the blanks, tweaking my choices and so on is greatly appreciated. I don't have any super strict budget, but I would REALLY like to keep this well under 2k. I've already got mouse, speakers and keyboard taken care of, and the monitor can wait.

Can't wait to get rid of the Pentium D!
August 11, 2009 3:46:54 PM

If you plan on doing SLI, the 1000W power supply is okay. If not a ~500W would be fine.

OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ600MXSP 600W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i7 - Retail $74.99-$20.00 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 11, 2009 4:05:28 PM

Swap the case for the antec 1200, it will save you a bit and provides even more cooling
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Swap the PSU for the 750TX, it has enough power to SLI two GTX275s
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Dont get the GTX285 as it is just a slightly overclocked GTX275, and 2 GTX275s will out perform a GTX295 as its just two underclocked GTX275's.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
August 11, 2009 5:02:01 PM

Lets see what I can do to help you out.

Quote:
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811119187 (I plan to add an additional 3-4 120mm fans, and possibly replace the 2 230mm top fans with 3 120mm higher CFM fans.)
If you have you heart set on this case, you can get one with a Window. But it will cost more.
Cooler Master ATCS 840 Full Tower Classic Case w/ Custom Bolt-On Full Window - Black (RC-840-KKN1-GP) $299.99
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/8495/cst-850/Cooler_M...

Now this Case would be better since it is the top rated Airflow case out right now.
Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail $169.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You PSU selection is really good, but you might also wish to look at the one from Corsair.
CORSAIR CMPSU-850HX 850W 80 PLUS SILVER Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail $194.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The two best brands are Asus and EVGA in the x58 mobo arena, lots to pick from.

SLI/Crossfire boards
Asus
ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $289.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS P6T LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $249.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA
EVGA E758-A1 3-Way SLI (x16/x16/x8) LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $299.99
($279.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA 141-BL-E757-TR LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX X58 SLI LE Intel Motherboard - Retail $239.99 ($219.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Tri-SLI/Crossfire
Asus
ASUS P6T6 WS Revolution LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail $349.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ASUS P6T7 WS Supercomputer LGA 1366 Intel X58 CEB Intel Motherboard - Retail $449.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA
EVGA E759 CLASSIFIED LIMITED EDITION 3-Way SLI (x16) + PhysX w/ECP & NF200 1366 Intel X58 EATX Intel Motherboard - Retail Deactivated Item
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Triple Channel DDR3 RAM
OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 OCZ3P1600LV6GK Retail $124.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Below Corsair Ram 6gb (3x2gb) kits are very good, but expensive.
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 TR3X6G1600C7D G $189.99 Free Shipping
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 TR3X6G1600C8D - Retail $187.99 Free Shipping
(I am running 2 sets of these totaling 12gb with Computer OC to 3.8gz)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Intel LGA1366 Nehalem CPU Coolers hat you should look at for OC'ing to 4.0ghz on air @ site below.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

Thermalright Ultra120 eXtreme-1366 RT Premium Heatpipe Cooler for Intel LGA1366 $74.95

CoGage True Spirit Heatpipe CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Silent Fan for Intel LGA1366 $37.95

Scythe "MUGEN-2" 5-Heat Pipes Universal CPU Cooler $37.99

I would suggest you go with this Graphic card from Evga instead of the GTX 295 or GTX 285.
EVGA 017-P3-1176-AR GeForce GTX 275 Superclocked Edition 1792MB 448-bit $329.99 ($309.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Either of these two HHD's would do.
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache $74.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Black WD1001FALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache $94.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVD Burners to check out.
Sony Optiarc DVD Burner with LightScribe Black SATA Model AD-7241S-0B LightScribe Support - OEM $30.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HP Black 24X DVD+R SATA 24X Multiformat DVD Burner LightScribe Support - Retail $33.99 Free Shipping*
(comes with Nero Software and Sata Cable)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Blu-Ray
LG Black 8X BD-ROM 16X DVD-ROM 40X CD-ROM SATA Internal Combo LG Blu-ray Reader & 16X LightScribe DVD±R DVD Burner - Retail $124.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Items you will need.
Thermal Compound and Thermal Cleaner.
Noctua NT-H1 Thermal Compound - Retail $9.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You will need this 8-pin Power Extension Cable for most Cases that has Bottom Mounted PSU.
1ST PC CORP. 12" 8-pin EPS extension cable Model CB-8M-8F - Retail $8.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Now to the Operating System. My suggestion would be to download Windows 7RC 64-bit version and then buy the full version when it comes out.

Download Link for Windows 7 RC
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/get/download...

Hope this helps you out some, you have some hard choices to make. Good Luck on your upcoming Build. :sol: 
August 12, 2009 12:24:28 AM

Yoosty said:

So here I'm going to post my opinions/questions on things, I appreciate the response!

Lets see what I can do to help you out.
"Cooler Master 840 w/ window" I really don't want to spend the extra money, why would I need a window? Also, an above poster said the Antec 1200 is better. I've looked at many, many case reviews and they've all said the Cooler Master 840 > Antec 1200. Can you show me one that says otherwise?


"Your PSU selection is good, but look at this Corsair 850 watt one" That one is nearly the same price as the Corsair 1000 watt, why not just get this one? Also, someone above said get a 750watt as it's enough to run 2x GTX 275, however as I said in my original post, I want this computer to last many years through upgrades, so why not just get a good base (PSU) so it's good to go for later?


"List of good Mobo's, ASUS/EVGA." I'm probably going to go with the ASUS P6T. I have a question though, does one directly relate to PC performance over another? I don't really care about bells and whistles.


"List of good RAM"
I've been looking at the Corsair dominator tripple channel kit, but it's rather expensive. The one you posted right above it looks nice too. However, the specs on both seem to be the same, the speed, capacity, etc. How is one better than the other?

Intel LGA1366 Nehalem CPU Coolers hat you should look at for OC'ing to 4.0ghz on air @ site below.
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

I've been hearing about the TRUE, how it's really good. I have a couple questions though. 1) Where to buy it? Newegg no longer carries it. 2) Does it cool by itself, or will I need to buy 2 120mm fans and run them in a push/pull set up to get optimal cooling? Also, how hard is that to set up?

I would suggest you go with this Graphic card from Evga instead of the GTX 295 or GTX 285.
A 285 from EVGA is the same price as the 275 you linked, why should I not just get the 285?

Either of these two HHD's would do.
Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache $74.99 Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

This is the harddrive I'm looking at getting.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
What's the difference from the one you posted, aside from the $10 price difference? Also, a 1TB one is a bit too expensive for me.

DVD Burners to check out.
Blu-Ray is really just out of the question, FAR too expensive. Also, this is the CD Drive I'm looking at http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
What's the difference between this one, and the more expensive ones you linked?

Items you will need.
Thermal Compound and Thermal Cleaner.
Thanks.

You will need this 8-pin Power Extension Cable for most Cases that has Bottom Mounted PSU.
Yup yup, I'm aware of this and got it covered. Thanks again.

Now to the Operating System. My suggestion would be to download Windows 7RC 64-bit version and then buy the full version when it comes out. Do you really think so? *Shivers* Windows 7, $200 at launch.. Sooo expensive, I don't have money coming out of my ears sadly. This whole set up is a REAL stretch on my budget. But boy do I want Windows 7.

Thank you for the replies everyone!

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