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What are the benefits of a dedecated PhysX card, and would if you have a GTX 295?

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No point, zilch, nada, bugger all, just stick with the 295 if that's what you have or are getting.

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Reply to mousemonkey

are you sure, in the future games might dedecate PhysX more though I emagine, is it possible even with a 295 a dedecated PhysX card will have some benefit soon?

Reply to bmxjumperc

If it were ever needed I think it's going to be at a point in time when the GTX 295 will be considered quite a low end and not very powerful card, in other words it's not going to happen any time soon.

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Reply to mousemonkey

what day will it be when the 295 is a low end card, have you ever seen crysis on a big monitor witha 295

Reply to bmxjumperc

The day that your children's grandchildren realise that a dedicated physx card is a must have, can't live without it type of requirement.

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Reply to mousemonkey

just to finish off this thread I decided to try a 9800GT with my 295 and there is a huge difference in deffinetly a game like Warmonger where it is completely based on PhysX and I got a bunch of PhysX demos so even though I have a GTX 295 a dedicated PhysX card is beneficial.

Reply to bmxjumperc

lol poor mousemoneky, but at the same time.... what was the difference in fps....120fps vs. 90 fps ???

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Reply to annisman

It's honestly 10 FPS faster with 9800 GT and 10 FPS slower with the GTX 295 (these are average frame rates) after just using the application Fraps. It's about 10 FPS on both Batman: Arkham Asylum Demo and in Warmonger.

So what do you guys think is that a huge difference? Before I measured the difference it seemed like a huge difference I imagined like 30 FPS difference but obvisouly it's not quite a huge performance boost. It is a welcome performance boost though.

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Message edited by bmxjumperc on 09-09-2009 at 04:13:41 PM
Reply to bmxjumperc

annisman wrote :

lol poor mousemoneky


WTF :heink:

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Reply to mousemonkey

Then help me understand the reason behind his comment.

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Reply to mousemonkey

he meant that you were sure there was no reason behind having a dedicated PhysX card if you have a GTX 295 and that was proven wrong and there for he assumed that you felt bad.

Reply to bmxjumperc

bmxjumperc wrote :

he meant that you were sure there was no reason behind having a dedicated PhysX card if you have a GTX 295 and that was proven wrong and there for he assumed that you felt bad.



precisely

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Reply to annisman

bmxjumperc wrote :

It's honestly 10 FPS faster with 9800 GT


If you feel that 10fps is worth it then good for you, as far as I'm concerned it most certainly is not and thus I stand by my original statement and feel quite good about it actually, sorry annisman you assumed wrong.

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Reply to mousemonkey

it seemed like this huge performance boost though I mean I could really tell, sorry to say, I think it's awsome with my setup the way it is

Reply to bmxjumperc

Having a dedicated card is useless. I added a 9600gso as a dedicated physics card paired up with 2 gtx260 sli. Performance in UT3/Warmonger were the same if not lower. If you have a powerful card then let it handle the physics don't add a weaker card. On the other hand if you have a 9600gt and adding 8600gts for dedicated physics i can imagine it would be useful and work!


Message edited by invisik on 09-10-2009 at 02:07:52 AM
Reply to invisik

The room your computer is in will heat up faster. That may be a benefit in the winter. Otherwise it's a big waste or money. I could add one on my PCI-E Gen2 x4 slot, but it would be there only to fill an empty slot. Not many "good" games use PhysX. Mirror's Edge being one of the only ones I really enjoy. Save your money and leave it in the bank.


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yah I actually like haveing a low end graphics card in my computer for PhysX and you're right there arn't really any games that are good on the spectrum that really support PhysX and I never played Mirrors Edge but it looked boooooring. One game that does support PhysX though is Batman: Arkham Asylum and this game is super fun after playing the demo. Right my room gets disgusting, muggy and hot. And this card is basicly to fill up space, I have a 295 and I'm not going to spend another 500 doallars for another one, I spent $70 on my 9800GT.

Reply to bmxjumperc

You like having a low end card for physics? Have you seen any real advantages with it? I have never seen any real benefits in my rig when i had a dedicated card for physics.

Reply to invisik

the difference is there I really enjoy having it, my room got really hot before this 9800GT actually in hindesight


Message edited by bmxjumperc on 09-10-2009 at 12:43:05 PM
Reply to bmxjumperc

I don't think a separate PhysX card will do good with GTX295 on a 20" display.
GTX295 would be more than enough for that display. I don't know about FullHD


Message edited by meodowla on 09-10-2009 at 01:45:10 PM
Reply to meodowla

Nope not when there is tons of PhysX code behind the scenes not that I write PhysX code I just understand that computers run on code.

Reply to bmxjumperc

mousemonkey wrote :

If you feel that 10fps is worth it then good for you, as far as I'm concerned it most certainly is not and thus I stand by my original statement and feel quite good about it actually, sorry annisman you assumed wrong.



actually the OP said that with a card it was 10fps faster and without it was 10fps slower....which = 20fps gain, don't worry I did the math for you. And yes I think that's a great gain. :kaola:

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Reply to annisman

That's nice for you.

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Reply to mousemonkey

I can't argue with kids all day.

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Reply to annisman

Like I said, that's nice for you.

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Reply to mousemonkey

annisman wrote :

actually the OP said that with a card it was 10fps faster and without it was 10fps slower....which = 20fps gain, don't worry I did the math for you. And yes I think that's a great gain. :kaola:


So by your logic, there should be a step in the middle. Did he install half the card?

There was a gain of 10 FPS, not 20.

Reply to trkorecky

" It's honestly 10 FPS faster with 9800 GT and 10 FPS slower with the GTX 295 " - OP

let's say for a moment that he was getting 60 fps... Now add 10 fps to 60 with the additon of the 9800GT that results in 70fps.

Now, with the GTX 295 he says he is 10 fps slower, so subtract 10fps from 60 and you get 50. Which = a 20 fps difference.

I don't understand what the problem is here, except for the fact that we may need to overhaul our nation's failing public school system.... hint hint

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