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Hi all, i am about to buy my self a new graphic card but i cant decide which one.

XFX GeForce PCX 9500GT 512MB (64-BITS) DDRII

OR

XFX GeForce PCX 9400GT 1GB (128-BITS) DDRII

Both of them cost the same in my country plz tell me which one's performance is better.

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If your looking for a gaming card, neither will provide a good experience. The 9500GT is better then the 9400GT, but that 9500GT is horribly choked for memory bandwidth. If your looking for a gaming card, try to find a 9600 or better. If you just need something basic or just for viewing video, get whichever is cheaper.

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Do not buy a card with GDDR2 memory, its too slow

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Reply to jaydeejohn

if you can just stress some more dollar then u are getting this http://www.techforless.com/cgi-bin [...] 0902023700 . add some shipping fee and in about 75usd u will get a 9600gt

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4745454b wrote :

If your looking for a gaming card, neither will provide a good experience. The 9500GT is better then the 9400GT, but that 9500GT is horribly choked for memory bandwidth. If your looking for a gaming card, try to find a 9600 or better. If you just need something basic or just for viewing video, get whichever is cheaper.



dude 9500GT is 512 mb n 64 bits n costs same as 9400GT 1 GB n 128 bits how could 9500 be better its half the memory n bits ???

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which is better inno 3d or xfx?

Reply to fahu

Get a 9600GT or for more performance and best $/P ATI HD 4870 for 116.99$ :o

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814131140

Cant find a better deal than that lol HD 4870 @ 116.99$

Reply to elie3000

+ S.T.A.L.K.E.R is included and the card has a good custom cooling fan + :)

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dude 9500GT is 512 mb n 64 bits n costs same as 9400GT 1 GB n 128 bits how could 9500 be better its half the memory n bits ???



Because there is more to a chip then just the memory. For example, the 9500GT has twice as many shaders as the 9400GT. As I said, the 9500GT is better then the 9400GT, I was talking about the chip, not the card. As I said, neither will provide a good gaming experience.

As for which is better, XFX would be the answer. I don't know about foreign countries, but over here they offer double lifetime warranty. And for those who can't read, don't bother linking/talking about newegg, he doesn't live in this country.

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4745454b wrote :

Quote :

dude 9500GT is 512 mb n 64 bits n costs same as 9400GT 1 GB n 128 bits how could 9500 be better its half the memory n bits ???



Because there is more to a chip then just the memory. For example, the 9500GT has twice as many shaders as the 9400GT. As I said, the 9500GT is better then the 9400GT, I was talking about the chip, not the card. As I said, neither will provide a good gaming experience.

As for which is better, XFX would be the answer. I don't know about foreign countries, but over here they offer double lifetime warranty. And for those who can't read, don't bother linking/talking about newegg, he doesn't live in this country.



How can we know from what country is he?

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Seeing as the OP hasn't told us, we can safely assume not the USA. Doing a search of the name he used, my guess would be someone from the south pacific area. Its not the USA or Canada.

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4745454b wrote :

Seeing as the OP hasn't told us, we can safely assume not the USA. Doing a search of the name he used, my guess would be someone from the south pacific area. Its not the USA or Canada.



lol name searcher :P :P can u also tell where i m from :P :pt1cable:

Reply to redwine01

and me it would surely be the last place you'd guess :bounce:

Reply to obsidian86

obsidian86 wrote :

and me it would surely be the last place you'd guess :bounce:


South Africa? [:mousemonkey]

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obsidian86 wrote :

:heink: not you mouse


Sorrreee.

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Reply to mousemonkey

lol you can google anything. srry


Message edited by elie3000 on 09-04-2009 at 07:49:21 PM
Reply to elie3000

hey no google allowed


Message edited by obsidian86 on 09-04-2009 at 07:58:05 PM
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guyz i cant afford 9600GT its either 9400 GT or 9500GT n im from a place u guyz would think im a terrorist lol im from pakistan :D n both of them costs PKR 5200.
so tell me which one to buy n will i be able to play games smoothly or they will lagg?

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n fahu is just my nick ma frnds n chicks call me dt my real name is Fahad which means Tiger in Arabic :P

Reply to fahu

9500gt, but how much more is the 9600GSO? Here its 34.99$ and much faster than the 9500gt. I understand arabic lol

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121320


Message edited by elie3000 on 09-04-2009 at 08:39:27 PM
Reply to elie3000

hahahahahahahahaha :P assalmualaikum anyways :)

Reply to redwine01
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if you want 9500 GT try to find one with GDDR3 module if you can. but if you want better performance in gaming you should try to get either of these card:

HD4650 (GDDR3)
HD4670
9600GSO
9600GT

:)

Reply to renz496

Your asking about getting a 16 stream processor (SP) card with "fast" 128bit DDR2 memory, or a 32SP card with even slower 64bit DDR2 memory. My 8800GS can handle many games, but it has 96SP and a 192bit memory bus. The cards you are looking at are simply to slow to handle gaming. You would be better off saving up more money and getting something better then wasting your time with this.

BTW, I often talk with a gentlemen from Iran on this forum. The love of technology can bring us together while our dictators work on tearing us apart.

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Reply to 4745454b
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so ur telling me dt 8800 is better than 9400 n 9500?

Reply to fahu
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in my country 9500GT and 9400GT costs PKR 5200 n on the other hand 9600 costs 8000 (1 usd is equal to 80 rupees)

Reply to fahu
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9500 n 9400 will handle games right?

Reply to fahu

No, thats what weve been saying, those cards are too weak, and have slow memory as well

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Reply to jaydeejohn

fahu wrote :

so ur telling me dt 8800 is better than 9400 n 9500?

 

Oh yes, and not by a small amount either.


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The 8800 is a MUCH better card then the 94/9500. Even the old G80 based 320/640MB 8800GTS cards are better then the ones your looking at.

As I've been trying to tell you, no. The 94/9500GT are NOT good gaming cards. You have to get something better. Save up more money if you have to.

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Reply to 4745454b
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is 9600 better than 8800 n 8500? in performance i dun care abt da warranty

Reply to fahu
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i dun get it how could 8800 be better than 94/9500GT i mean 8800 is much older n xfx makes better chips every time n it also costs much than 8800.

Reply to fahu
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the 8800GT is older than 9400/9500 but 8800GT is high end class chip for 8000 series.the 8800GT re-branded as 9800GT if i'm not mistaken (some nvidia re-branded / renaming chip scheme confused me a bit). based on the naming 9400/9500 should be comparable to 8400/8500 series though 9400/9500 maybe better than those two. you can refer on benchmark

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts [...] ,1468.html


Message edited by renz496 on 09-06-2009 at 09:16:12 AM
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actually its not the first number that shows how the graphics card performs. the first digit is the series number and the next numbers are actually the indicator of performance. Nvidia launch a newer series and in every series they launch some high performance card, some medicore performance card and some low end performance cards.For example 9500gt the first digit is "9" that means it is a geforce 9series card and generally is manufactured with the same die as other 9series cards(not all necessarily). the next digit "5" is actually the identifier of the performance. 2/3/4/5 is entry level cards or performer. they are just used for running pc and running old games like commandos3, maxpayne-1 etc. running newer games than that is a disaster with those cards they may run it but in low settings and even after low settings they will choke in games like assasin creed or lost planet etc. if u want some gaming performance u need to look for "8"(the 2nd digit) that means 8800gt or 9800gt. But if u want to go very low dont have much money now to spend but want good performance and in smaller resolution like 1024 or 1280 then at least look for "6" in the 2nd digit and in the first digit "9" that means 9600gt. i will not recommand 8600gt because in some games it chokes but really if u cant stress ur budget anymore and need a card now still 8600gt is not really a very bad choice it will run most of the games in lower resolution and lower settings. And u may wonder what about gt or gts. the general hirerchy is GTX> GTS>GT>GS>LE.

so the summary is u need to look at the 2nd digit to know what kind of performance it can provide. and u cant compare 8600gt with 8800gt. it will be make more sense to compare 8600gt with 7600gt with 6600gt - becoz all have the "6" in the second digit and means "medicore" performace" so u compare medicore cards with the same level of cards. so 8800gt will be compared with 9800gt. i hope this will clear why 8800gt is better than 9500gt.

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redwine01 wrote :

actually its not the first number that shows how the graphics card performs. the first digit is the series number and the next numbers are actually the indicator of performance. Nvidia launch a newer series and in every series they launch some high performance card, some medicore performance card and some low end performance cards.For example 9500gt the first digit is "9" that means it is a geforce 9series card and generally is manufactured with the same die as other 9series cards(not all necessarily). the next digit "5" is actually the identifier of the performance. 2/3/4/5 is entry level cards or performer. they are just used for running pc and running old games like commandos3, maxpayne-1 etc. running newer games than that is a disaster with those cards they may run it but in low settings and even after low settings they will choke in games like assasin creed or lost planet etc. if u want some gaming performance u need to look for "8"(the 2nd digit) that means 8800gt or 9800gt. But if u want to go very low dont have much money now to spend but want good performance and in smaller resolution like 1024 or 1280 then at least look for "6" in the 2nd digit and in the first digit "9" that means 9600gt. i will not recommand 8600gt because in some games it chokes but really if u cant stress ur budget anymore and need a card now still 8600gt is not really a very bad choice it will run most of the games in lower resolution and lower settings. And u may wonder what about gt or gts. the general hirerchy is GTX> GTS>GT>GS>LE.

so the summary is u need to look at the 2nd digit to know what kind of performance it can provide. and u cant compare 8600gt with 8800gt. it will be make more sense to compare 8600gt with 7600gt with 6600gt - becoz all have the "6" in the second digit and means "medicore" performace" so u compare medicore cards with the same level of cards. so 8800gt will be compared with 9800gt. i hope this will clear why 8800gt is better than 9500gt.



i have heard that 7600GT is better compared to 8600GT, is that true? (though 8600GT can handle dx 10)
somehow i understand how the numbers in the GeForce series indicates the perforamance but your explanation makes things more clear with me. thanks man :)

Reply to renz496

depends more on games. as 8600gt has higher shader clock in more shader intensive games like crysis and newer games 8600gt perform much better than the 7600gt. But in some old games 7600gt shows a bit more than 8600gt. if it is 8600gt vs 7600gt i will tell u 8600gt is a winner becoz in newer games it performs better with more shaders.

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well thx guyz i owe u all big time :D i guess if buying 94/9500GT is wasting my money the only choice for me is to buy 9600GT means i wont be getting a card for a long time :S

Reply to fahu

@ fahu u can also get 9600gso which have exactly simillar performace as 9600gt in lower resolution like 1280. the price is very similar to a 9500gt see what price is it there in ur country. And dont worry as new cards coming out within 2 month the price for gfx will go down and perhaps u may buy at that time if u have the cash.

Reply to redwine01

Whoa, careful recommending the GSO. The 192bit memory bus GSO is good, the others are junk. The good GSO has a 192bit memory bus, DDR3 memory, and 96SP.

Fahu, what cards are available in your area? Please list full specs like you did the first time. (also list any AMD cards) Perhaps we can spot one thats a good deal. Look for any Nvidia series 8/9 cards, or cards from the AMD series 3xxx/4xxx. We might spot a gem in your price range.

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XFX GeForce PCX 9600GT 512MB (256-BITS) DDRIII
XFX GeForce PCX 9500GT 1GB (128-BITS) DDRII
XFX GeForce PCX 9500GT 512MB (64-BITS) DDRII
XFX GeForce PCX 9400GT 1GB (128-BITS) DDRII
XFX GeForce PCX 9400GT 512MB (64-BITS) DDRII
XFX GeForce PCX 7200GS 256MB (64-BITS) TC 512MB
INNO3D GeForce PCX 8400GS 512MB (64-BITS) TC 256MB

Reply to fahu

fahu wrote :

XFX GeForce PCX 9600GT 512MB (256-BITS) DDRIII
XFX GeForce PCX 9500GT 1GB (128-BITS) DDRII
XFX GeForce PCX 9500GT 512MB (64-BITS) DDRII
XFX GeForce PCX 9400GT 1GB (128-BITS) DDRII
XFX GeForce PCX 9400GT 512MB (64-BITS) DDRII
XFX GeForce PCX 7200GS 256MB (64-BITS) TC 512MB
INNO3D GeForce PCX 8400GS 512MB (64-BITS) TC 256MB


There you go. [:mousemonkey]

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Reply to mousemonkey

Yeah. Its not the best card out there, but the 9600GT with DDR3 is going to provide the best experience of those cards. I've seen overclocked 9600GTs perform nearly as fast as an 8800GT, so it should be as good as an 8800GS/9600GSO.

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Reply to 4745454b

Just wanted to add that I've got a 9400GT, it was a temporary card until I got a 4890 but ended up being 'meh this is fine'.

Played Prototype at 800x600 with 2xAA smoothly. I know for your PC gamers that might be considered god aweful, but it's still consideribly better looking than what most people are used to.

So yeah 9400GT isn't an amazing gaming card, but it stills does the job for most things. Mine is a 512Mb version. I will upgrade to a 4890 later, but 9400GT works fine so it's a luxury not a "must have", certainly impressive for what they cost (here anyway).

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some people are satisfied enough if they can play the game. i know few people like that. and they can keep their card for 2-3 years because of that

Reply to renz496

800x600? Only if I'm playing Diablo 2, LoD. Other then that, must be 1280x1024. I haven't played lower then that in perhaps 2 years now. I just moved off my 17" CRT monitor, and now game on my 20", 1680x1050.

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hey guyz some one just said 9600 nearly performs as fast as 8800 so if 8800 gt is dt 8800 is better or same as 9600 so shouldn't i buy 8800?

Reply to fahu

Can you find an 8800GT?

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Reply to mousemonkey

8800gt is bit more powerful and costly than 9600gt.

Reply to redwine01
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does 8800 costs more than 94/9500GT ? n r dey better in performance?

Reply to fahu

Yes and yes.

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