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September 3, 2009 10:53:17 AM

Hi all, i am about to buy my self a new graphic card but i cant decide which one.

XFX GeForce PCX 9500GT 512MB (64-BITS) DDRII

OR

XFX GeForce PCX 9400GT 1GB (128-BITS) DDRII

Both of them cost the same in my country plz tell me which one's performance is better.

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a c 164 U Graphics card
September 3, 2009 11:24:08 AM

If your looking for a gaming card, neither will provide a good experience. The 9500GT is better then the 9400GT, but that 9500GT is horribly choked for memory bandwidth. If your looking for a gaming card, try to find a 9600 or better. If you just need something basic or just for viewing video, get whichever is cheaper.
a b U Graphics card
September 3, 2009 11:29:19 AM

Do not buy a card with GDDR2 memory, its too slow
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September 4, 2009 6:54:20 AM

4745454b said:
If your looking for a gaming card, neither will provide a good experience. The 9500GT is better then the 9400GT, but that 9500GT is horribly choked for memory bandwidth. If your looking for a gaming card, try to find a 9600 or better. If you just need something basic or just for viewing video, get whichever is cheaper.


dude 9500GT is 512 mb n 64 bits n costs same as 9400GT 1 GB n 128 bits how could 9500 be better its half the memory n bits ???
September 4, 2009 6:55:20 AM

which is better inno 3d or xfx?
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
September 4, 2009 7:25:58 AM

+ S.T.A.L.K.E.R is included and the card has a good custom cooling fan + :) 
a c 164 U Graphics card
September 4, 2009 8:33:45 AM

Quote:
dude 9500GT is 512 mb n 64 bits n costs same as 9400GT 1 GB n 128 bits how could 9500 be better its half the memory n bits ???


Because there is more to a chip then just the memory. For example, the 9500GT has twice as many shaders as the 9400GT. As I said, the 9500GT is better then the 9400GT, I was talking about the chip, not the card. As I said, neither will provide a good gaming experience.

As for which is better, XFX would be the answer. I don't know about foreign countries, but over here they offer double lifetime warranty. And for those who can't read, don't bother linking/talking about newegg, he doesn't live in this country.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
September 4, 2009 1:43:29 PM

4745454b said:
Quote:
dude 9500GT is 512 mb n 64 bits n costs same as 9400GT 1 GB n 128 bits how could 9500 be better its half the memory n bits ???


Because there is more to a chip then just the memory. For example, the 9500GT has twice as many shaders as the 9400GT. As I said, the 9500GT is better then the 9400GT, I was talking about the chip, not the card. As I said, neither will provide a good gaming experience.

As for which is better, XFX would be the answer. I don't know about foreign countries, but over here they offer double lifetime warranty. And for those who can't read, don't bother linking/talking about newegg, he doesn't live in this country.


How can we know from what country is he?
a c 164 U Graphics card
September 4, 2009 3:08:18 PM

Seeing as the OP hasn't told us, we can safely assume not the USA. Doing a search of the name he used, my guess would be someone from the south pacific area. Its not the USA or Canada.
September 4, 2009 4:12:42 PM

4745454b said:
Seeing as the OP hasn't told us, we can safely assume not the USA. Doing a search of the name he used, my guess would be someone from the south pacific area. Its not the USA or Canada.


lol name searcher :p  :p  can u also tell where i m from :p  :pt1cable: 
a b U Graphics card
September 4, 2009 4:18:34 PM

and me it would surely be the last place you'd guess :bounce: 
a c 271 U Graphics card
September 4, 2009 4:27:32 PM

obsidian86 said:
and me it would surely be the last place you'd guess :bounce: 

South Africa? [:mousemonkey]
a b U Graphics card
September 4, 2009 4:50:11 PM

:heink:  not you mouse
a c 271 U Graphics card
September 4, 2009 4:59:43 PM

obsidian86 said:
:heink:  not you mouse

Sorrreee.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
September 4, 2009 5:02:17 PM

lol you can google anything. srry
a b U Graphics card
September 4, 2009 5:48:30 PM

hey no google allowed
September 4, 2009 6:29:12 PM

guyz i cant afford 9600GT its either 9400 GT or 9500GT n im from a place u guyz would think im a terrorist lol im from pakistan :D  n both of them costs PKR 5200.
so tell me which one to buy n will i be able to play games smoothly or they will lagg?
September 4, 2009 6:30:51 PM

n fahu is just my nick ma frnds n chicks call me dt my real name is Fahad which means Tiger in Arabic :p 
September 4, 2009 6:44:08 PM

hahahahahahahahaha :p  assalmualaikum anyways :) 
a c 141 U Graphics card
September 4, 2009 7:03:05 PM

if you want 9500 GT try to find one with GDDR3 module if you can. but if you want better performance in gaming you should try to get either of these card:

HD4650 (GDDR3)
HD4670
9600GSO
9600GT

:) 
a c 164 U Graphics card
September 4, 2009 11:35:42 PM

Your asking about getting a 16 stream processor (SP) card with "fast" 128bit DDR2 memory, or a 32SP card with even slower 64bit DDR2 memory. My 8800GS can handle many games, but it has 96SP and a 192bit memory bus. The cards you are looking at are simply to slow to handle gaming. You would be better off saving up more money and getting something better then wasting your time with this.

BTW, I often talk with a gentlemen from Iran on this forum. The love of technology can bring us together while our dictators work on tearing us apart.
September 5, 2009 7:55:37 AM

so ur telling me dt 8800 is better than 9400 n 9500?
September 5, 2009 7:58:12 AM

in my country 9500GT and 9400GT costs PKR 5200 n on the other hand 9600 costs 8000 (1 usd is equal to 80 rupees)
September 5, 2009 7:59:48 AM

9500 n 9400 will handle games right?
a b U Graphics card
September 5, 2009 8:01:03 AM

No, thats what weve been saying, those cards are too weak, and have slow memory as well
a c 271 U Graphics card
September 5, 2009 8:26:48 AM

fahu said:
so ur telling me dt 8800 is better than 9400 n 9500?


Oh yes, and not by a small amount either.
a c 164 U Graphics card
September 5, 2009 8:59:26 AM

The 8800 is a MUCH better card then the 94/9500. Even the old G80 based 320/640MB 8800GTS cards are better then the ones your looking at.

As I've been trying to tell you, no. The 94/9500GT are NOT good gaming cards. You have to get something better. Save up more money if you have to.
September 6, 2009 6:48:58 AM

is 9600 better than 8800 n 8500? in performance i dun care abt da warranty
September 6, 2009 6:51:15 AM

i dun get it how could 8800 be better than 94/9500GT i mean 8800 is much older n xfx makes better chips every time n it also costs much than 8800.
a c 141 U Graphics card
September 6, 2009 7:11:26 AM

the 8800GT is older than 9400/9500 but 8800GT is high end class chip for 8000 series.the 8800GT re-branded as 9800GT if i'm not mistaken (some nvidia re-branded / renaming chip scheme confused me a bit). based on the naming 9400/9500 should be comparable to 8400/8500 series though 9400/9500 maybe better than those two. you can refer on benchmark

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/gaming-graphics-card...
September 6, 2009 7:24:38 AM

actually its not the first number that shows how the graphics card performs. the first digit is the series number and the next numbers are actually the indicator of performance. Nvidia launch a newer series and in every series they launch some high performance card, some medicore performance card and some low end performance cards.For example 9500gt the first digit is "9" that means it is a geforce 9series card and generally is manufactured with the same die as other 9series cards(not all necessarily). the next digit "5" is actually the identifier of the performance. 2/3/4/5 is entry level cards or performer. they are just used for running pc and running old games like commandos3, maxpayne-1 etc. running newer games than that is a disaster with those cards they may run it but in low settings and even after low settings they will choke in games like assasin creed or lost planet etc. if u want some gaming performance u need to look for "8"(the 2nd digit) that means 8800gt or 9800gt. But if u want to go very low dont have much money now to spend but want good performance and in smaller resolution like 1024 or 1280 then at least look for "6" in the 2nd digit and in the first digit "9" that means 9600gt. i will not recommand 8600gt because in some games it chokes but really if u cant stress ur budget anymore and need a card now still 8600gt is not really a very bad choice it will run most of the games in lower resolution and lower settings. And u may wonder what about gt or gts. the general hirerchy is GTX> GTS>GT>GS>LE.

so the summary is u need to look at the 2nd digit to know what kind of performance it can provide. and u cant compare 8600gt with 8800gt. it will be make more sense to compare 8600gt with 7600gt with 6600gt - becoz all have the "6" in the second digit and means "medicore" performace" so u compare medicore cards with the same level of cards. so 8800gt will be compared with 9800gt. i hope this will clear why 8800gt is better than 9500gt.
a c 141 U Graphics card
September 6, 2009 7:42:15 AM

redwine01 said:
actually its not the first number that shows how the graphics card performs. the first digit is the series number and the next numbers are actually the indicator of performance. Nvidia launch a newer series and in every series they launch some high performance card, some medicore performance card and some low end performance cards.For example 9500gt the first digit is "9" that means it is a geforce 9series card and generally is manufactured with the same die as other 9series cards(not all necessarily). the next digit "5" is actually the identifier of the performance. 2/3/4/5 is entry level cards or performer. they are just used for running pc and running old games like commandos3, maxpayne-1 etc. running newer games than that is a disaster with those cards they may run it but in low settings and even after low settings they will choke in games like assasin creed or lost planet etc. if u want some gaming performance u need to look for "8"(the 2nd digit) that means 8800gt or 9800gt. But if u want to go very low dont have much money now to spend but want good performance and in smaller resolution like 1024 or 1280 then at least look for "6" in the 2nd digit and in the first digit "9" that means 9600gt. i will not recommand 8600gt because in some games it chokes but really if u cant stress ur budget anymore and need a card now still 8600gt is not really a very bad choice it will run most of the games in lower resolution and lower settings. And u may wonder what about gt or gts. the general hirerchy is GTX> GTS>GT>GS>LE.

so the summary is u need to look at the 2nd digit to know what kind of performance it can provide. and u cant compare 8600gt with 8800gt. it will be make more sense to compare 8600gt with 7600gt with 6600gt - becoz all have the "6" in the second digit and means "medicore" performace" so u compare medicore cards with the same level of cards. so 8800gt will be compared with 9800gt. i hope this will clear why 8800gt is better than 9500gt.


i have heard that 7600GT is better compared to 8600GT, is that true? (though 8600GT can handle dx 10)
somehow i understand how the numbers in the GeForce series indicates the perforamance but your explanation makes things more clear with me. thanks man :) 
September 6, 2009 7:54:19 AM

depends more on games. as 8600gt has higher shader clock in more shader intensive games like crysis and newer games 8600gt perform much better than the 7600gt. But in some old games 7600gt shows a bit more than 8600gt. if it is 8600gt vs 7600gt i will tell u 8600gt is a winner becoz in newer games it performs better with more shaders.
September 6, 2009 7:50:54 PM

well thx guyz i owe u all big time :D  i guess if buying 94/9500GT is wasting my money the only choice for me is to buy 9600GT means i wont be getting a card for a long time :S
September 6, 2009 8:52:32 PM

@ fahu u can also get 9600gso which have exactly simillar performace as 9600gt in lower resolution like 1280. the price is very similar to a 9500gt see what price is it there in ur country. And dont worry as new cards coming out within 2 month the price for gfx will go down and perhaps u may buy at that time if u have the cash.
a c 164 U Graphics card
September 6, 2009 10:57:35 PM

Whoa, careful recommending the GSO. The 192bit memory bus GSO is good, the others are junk. The good GSO has a 192bit memory bus, DDR3 memory, and 96SP.

Fahu, what cards are available in your area? Please list full specs like you did the first time. (also list any AMD cards) Perhaps we can spot one thats a good deal. Look for any Nvidia series 8/9 cards, or cards from the AMD series 3xxx/4xxx. We might spot a gem in your price range.
September 7, 2009 12:29:26 PM

XFX GeForce PCX 9600GT 512MB (256-BITS) DDRIII
XFX GeForce PCX 9500GT 1GB (128-BITS) DDRII
XFX GeForce PCX 9500GT 512MB (64-BITS) DDRII
XFX GeForce PCX 9400GT 1GB (128-BITS) DDRII
XFX GeForce PCX 9400GT 512MB (64-BITS) DDRII
XFX GeForce PCX 7200GS 256MB (64-BITS) TC 512MB
INNO3D GeForce PCX 8400GS 512MB (64-BITS) TC 256MB
a c 271 U Graphics card
September 7, 2009 2:00:23 PM

fahu said:
XFX GeForce PCX 9600GT 512MB (256-BITS) DDRIII
XFX GeForce PCX 9500GT 1GB (128-BITS) DDRII
XFX GeForce PCX 9500GT 512MB (64-BITS) DDRII
XFX GeForce PCX 9400GT 1GB (128-BITS) DDRII
XFX GeForce PCX 9400GT 512MB (64-BITS) DDRII
XFX GeForce PCX 7200GS 256MB (64-BITS) TC 512MB
INNO3D GeForce PCX 8400GS 512MB (64-BITS) TC 256MB

There you go. [:mousemonkey]
a c 164 U Graphics card
September 7, 2009 7:50:58 PM

Yeah. Its not the best card out there, but the 9600GT with DDR3 is going to provide the best experience of those cards. I've seen overclocked 9600GTs perform nearly as fast as an 8800GT, so it should be as good as an 8800GS/9600GSO.
September 7, 2009 8:03:32 PM

Just wanted to add that I've got a 9400GT, it was a temporary card until I got a 4890 but ended up being 'meh this is fine'.

Played Prototype at 800x600 with 2xAA smoothly. I know for your PC gamers that might be considered god aweful, but it's still consideribly better looking than what most people are used to.

So yeah 9400GT isn't an amazing gaming card, but it stills does the job for most things. Mine is a 512Mb version. I will upgrade to a 4890 later, but 9400GT works fine so it's a luxury not a "must have", certainly impressive for what they cost (here anyway).
a c 141 U Graphics card
September 7, 2009 8:47:01 PM

some people are satisfied enough if they can play the game. i know few people like that. and they can keep their card for 2-3 years because of that
a c 164 U Graphics card
September 8, 2009 1:53:25 AM

800x600? Only if I'm playing Diablo 2, LoD. Other then that, must be 1280x1024. I haven't played lower then that in perhaps 2 years now. I just moved off my 17" CRT monitor, and now game on my 20", 1680x1050.
September 8, 2009 10:53:28 AM

hey guyz some one just said 9600 nearly performs as fast as 8800 so if 8800 gt is dt 8800 is better or same as 9600 so shouldn't i buy 8800?
a c 271 U Graphics card
September 8, 2009 10:55:03 AM

Can you find an 8800GT?
September 8, 2009 11:07:16 AM

8800gt is bit more powerful and costly than 9600gt.
September 8, 2009 5:56:48 PM

does 8800 costs more than 94/9500GT ? n r dey better in performance?
a c 271 U Graphics card
September 8, 2009 5:59:34 PM

Yes and yes.
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