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Why is My Phenom 9950 BE 125W Running At 50C idle?

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November 9, 2009 2:24:01 AM

Hey guys

Just as the title states

My CPU is running at 50-53 degress idle and 55-59 when gaming, i have not tampered with the heatsink or thermal paste, i just used it straight out of the box. so im running all on stock.

ive tried reseating the heatsink but that come to no anvil.

Anyone got any stories on Sugestions on this matter?

Kind Regards

Nytrus90

The System:

Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit
AMD 9950 phenom 125w Black Edtion (quad-core)
Sony DVD+RW
Alphapower 1050watt
HIS Radeon HD 4870
Asrock 780gxh (780g chipset, with Crossfire support AM3 CPU ready, FSB 2600)
4gb Patriot 800mhz DDR2

All temps recorded with HWmonitor and AMD Overdrive.

Hope this helps

November 9, 2009 2:39:15 AM

Use cpuz and see what the voltage is, it should be less that 1.3v. If its greater, then set it to 1.3 in bios...if it is under that voltage already, maybe you got a bad chip...RMA :D 
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November 9, 2009 2:41:07 AM

The older Phenom will run warmer than the current ones. Not only is your cpu 65nm compared to 45nm of the current ones. That cpu is generally just going to run warm period.


Make sure cool n quiet is enabled to drop the clock speed down when idle. If that is already on then your are pretty much of luck lowering the temps. You can try a better cooler and lowering the cpu voltage.
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November 9, 2009 2:44:39 AM

someguy7 said:
The older Phenom will run warmer than the current ones. Not only is your cpu 65nm compared to 45nm of the current ones. That cpu is generally just going to run warm period.


Make sure cool n quiet is enabled to drop the clock speed down when idle. If that is already on then your are pretty much of luck lowering the temps. You can try a better cooler and lowering the cpu voltage.


Even though they are warmer, it's shouldn't be that warm...mine would idle 45C stock cooling @ 3.0 WITHOUT cool and quiet on.
November 9, 2009 2:48:21 AM

When you say "running all on stock" we're going to assume you mean no overclocking?

You didn't mention what kind of case or how many fans are present in addition to the fan in the power supply. The 4870 is known to run fairly hot. They often idle at about 50C. If you don't have enough case cooling then CPU would also be at 50C since that would be the average temperature in the case.
November 9, 2009 2:55:41 AM

i have 2 fans, one at the front (80mm) and one at the back (120mm) with the same one the PSU. and yes no overclocking here :D 

you are correct my GPU is idling at 50C my system temp is at 44C

as for my voltages, its goes from 1.34-1.36 any problems here?

Kind Regards

Nytrus90
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November 9, 2009 3:28:33 AM

XD_dued said:
Even though they are warmer, it's shouldn't be that warm...mine would idle 45C stock cooling @ 3.0 WITHOUT cool and quiet on.


Still. You take into consideration the gpu. The case air flow. The ambient temp. He may have a chip that needs more volts than yours as well. Is it a little warm? Yes. Is it abnormally warm/hot. I would say no. Would I worry about it? Nope. The load temps are still under 60.

nytrus90. Why do you have a 1050w psu in that machinea anyways.
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November 9, 2009 4:45:03 AM

nytrus90 said:
i have 2 fans, one at the front (80mm) and one at the back (120mm) with the same one the PSU. and yes no overclocking here :D 

you are correct my GPU is idling at 50C my system temp is at 44C

as for my voltages, its goes from 1.34-1.36 any problems here?

Kind Regards

Nytrus90


I would say so, my 9850 does 3.0Ghz with 1.325V and the stock 2.5Ghz with only 1.2V.
November 9, 2009 1:57:57 PM

I had exactly the same problem with my Phenom 9950BE. I found the the stock cooler was inadiquate and bought a decent Zalman cooler. Solved my constant crashes and BSODs. Even ran Prime95 without any issues. Mine runs now at 48c at full load instead of hitting 65c and then binning out.
November 9, 2009 6:22:01 PM

ok guys seems to be a voltage issue maybe, how do i sort this i am a complete noob when it comes to all this voltage stuff so please excuse my ignorance.

i am have stated the mobo i am running, could someone give me detailed instructions on how to drop the Vcore, also is there any protenial danger here and could anything go wrong?

Kind Regards

Nytrus90

November 9, 2009 7:29:20 PM

BUMP
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November 9, 2009 7:50:20 PM

You need to find something called CPU VID and just lower it, I'm not familier with ASrock boards so I can't tell you exactly where to go.
November 9, 2009 7:52:18 PM

Ok then Thank you, does anyone else have any info on this matter?

Once again thank you for your help.

Nytrus90
November 9, 2009 8:21:31 PM

Ok i have found something in the lines of under volting my CPU, but when i set it to manual i have to set my NB and SB voltages also, i dont know what the hell i am doing so i left it back on auto and left the bios (didnt save ofc) so back to sqaure 1

Any dangers if i was to get the Vcore to 1.28v and leave the SB and NB untouched. im really confused please HELP!!!

Regards

Nytrus90
November 9, 2009 8:30:52 PM

With some Research i have come across this.

http://www.ocworkbench.com/2009/asrock/A780GMH-128M-Rev...

this is exactly what my mobo bios says, except i am running a 9950 phenom with a max voltage of 1.55v :S when set to auto

what do i do so that i can set my Vcore to about 1.28V?

please let me know if you need any additional information

Kind regards

Nytrus90
November 9, 2009 9:08:01 PM

BUMP
November 10, 2009 5:41:19 AM

BUMP
November 10, 2009 3:25:12 PM

BUMP
November 10, 2009 5:20:41 PM

BUMPs :( 
November 10, 2009 6:05:16 PM

Great way to pad your post count bump boy!
November 10, 2009 6:06:13 PM

XD
November 10, 2009 6:58:54 PM

Press f2 at system boot up to enter set up. Look for advanced options in bios, or something like that, it varies between mobos. Do you have the manual to see for reference?
November 10, 2009 7:19:46 PM

nope i dont have the manual :( 


Kind regards

Nytrus90
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November 10, 2009 7:51:08 PM

Is it crashing or causing any issues? You don't seem to have mentioned that.

If not, leave it alone. The more you meddle with a pc the chance of something else completely unrelated going wrong increases exponentially.
November 10, 2009 7:54:34 PM

there is no crashing present, only issue is the heat. this is a gaming rig and reaching 62+ degrees when gaming is not a means to ingore when the max my CPU can take is 61 degrees so yes i guess there is an issue here.

Kind Regards

Nytrus90
November 10, 2009 7:57:18 PM

try googling for the manual, and look for any options in the BIOS like XD said
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November 10, 2009 7:59:46 PM

Chances are it's your case just doesn't have good airflow. 62C isn't gonna break your cpu, it's not ideal no but it's not gonna hurt it either.

One of the simplest ways of increasing airflow is to use a fan on the side of your pc, if it has a fan mounting. Intake or exhaust it will really help keep the heat away from the cpu and gpu.
November 10, 2009 8:02:55 PM

If you look up, you'll see that i have found where to set the CPU voltage, but i am presented with other stuff like NB freq and NB voltage, when setting from manual to auto, this is foreign ground for me and i do not have a clue what is what.

so far ive tried:

CPU Frequency: x13 2600mhz
CPU Voltage: 1.285v
NB fequency: x10 2000mhz
NB voltage: 1v

and it failed system wouldnt boot, had to clear Cmos to get her alive again. any help with this i dont want to overclock jus want stock value clocks with lower CPU voltage.

Regards

Nytrus90
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November 10, 2009 8:04:35 PM

You have an issue with heat in your case. The 9550 is a hot cpu, the 4870 is a hot gpu.

2 fans is not enough to remove the heat from that case. You want to fix it? Get more fans, or better ones.
November 10, 2009 8:08:50 PM

i can see where you are coming from i am thinking of upgrading to an themaltake armor, but i am not sure that jus getting better airflow will cure it, i could be wrong.

my case temp is 40 degrees, is this high?

Kind regards

Nytrus90
November 10, 2009 10:57:28 PM

Yes thats high...whats your fan rpms?
November 11, 2009 3:08:06 PM

Erm im not too sure :S i dont have a controler, is there another way of finding out?

Kind Regards

Nytrus90
November 11, 2009 4:29:31 PM

51-53 stock and 55-59 gaming is not a big fluctuation... do you play CPU intensive games? Dumb question, but do you fold or put some other load on the CPU while it's at 'stock'? Do you have cool'n'quiet enabled? Do you have some kind of fan management enabled? (Does your CPU fan get louder while gaming?)
November 11, 2009 4:47:51 PM

hey there, erm yes i play CPU intensive games and no i dont do any other load on the CPU such as folding, ive tried cool n quite enabled and ive tried it disabled, some results no difference, as for fan management, i have 2 fans in my case, 80mm intake and 120mm exghaust, case is made of mesh so its not sealed up, no temp difff with side pannel off.

Kind regards


nytrus90
November 11, 2009 6:09:21 PM

That's not what I meant by 'fan management'. Does the CPU fan speed up under load?
November 11, 2009 11:22:40 PM

yes, when temps increase so does fan speed, fan is norm at 3000RPM at ide 4000 when hitting the 60+ degree range

Regards
November 11, 2009 11:36:43 PM

So there's your problem. Disable fan management in the BIOS and you're idle temperatures will drop.
November 12, 2009 7:18:25 PM

SOLVED!!!!

Yay so after all this devolting stuff, the real culpret was my thermal compound, i used the stock stuff, so i fort id reseat the HSF as a means of process of elimination. upon inspection i noticed that my thermal compound was old dry and crusty, so i jus cleaned the old stuff off then put some new stuff on it. fired it up and i am now running at 41degree idle

HI5!!!

Kind regards

Nytrus90
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