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I want to know if this a good build that will last the test of time...

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August 15, 2009 12:46:54 AM

By test of time, I mean as long as I feel fit. I have been using a single core CPU on a computer that is 5 years old and yea... it has withstood the test of time until now. It is getting old and reallly phased out.

So i am planning on building a new computer. Now i have been told by
some people i was conversing with that i should just wait for the i5
from Intel (i am building an Intel based computer for the reason that
AMD multicores seem to be crap and i am an Intel common stock holder.

Now this was the build i had planned for the computer before i was
told to wait for the i5. Personally, I dont WANT the i5. I don't plan to build a computer WITH the i5.

Case : antec nine hundred (if anyone answering this question has an
alternative that offers as much room for fans and is as roomy and
spacious, and cheaper maybe i am all ears - seriously, the case seems a bit flashy and overpriced imho)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
(I am buying this at a nearby store (New York, New York baby~!) so I will be paying less for this...)

Mobo : gigabyte ud3r (any alterntives? all ears.) I think the i5 is socket 1156, but this mobo is socket 775 :\
I like this mobo because it has 6 slots, and support both DDR3 and DDR2 and a ridiculous amount of memory standards. I don't know if Socket 775 can support DDR3 though, I probably won't see much performance gain. Someone told me that maybe I should not get this mobo as I may have to flash it. Are there any serious risks to flashing a motherboard, besides hte fact it may not work again? ($130~)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

cpu: at first it was going to be the Q8200, but then i sort of
realized no VT might be a problem on windows 7 xp mode - which i plan to use. i am looking for other alternative perhaps in that price
range. Maybe the Q8400.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ($170~)

-- so after the important stuff, ~$409 or a wee bit less.

psu : corsair 500w[#00ff72][#5900ff][#00ff50][/#5900ff][/#00ff72][/#ffd400] (maybe...) ~$100 (anothr brand suggestion would be good too. I am going to run the PSU in a lower end computer first for a couple of days (3 days straight.)

gpu : something a wee bit weaker than the raedon 4850.. i am not using this machine to play heavy hitter games. I need someone very weak and very cheap that is capable of playing the sims 3. that is all :\

i am using it for graphic design, and video editing and low end games like the sims 2 and 3. i am not using sli or crossfire btw which makes the mobo prefect and cheap.

If anyone out there has an AMD alternative I would be willing to hear it.

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August 15, 2009 2:05:42 AM

please use the layout described in the sticky so we can get all the info we need. like price range, prefferred brands, time frame... etc

BTW there are other reasons to wait till after the i5 comes out to build than to BUY the i5...... prices on older (see socket 775) CPU's will drop.

It looks like you will want a lot of RAM? if so how much?


case.... checkout the CM 690. it should be plenty roomy and has tons of fan space.
PSU..... corsair, ocz, antec are the main ones. You can get 650W PSU for ~$70-80 with free shipping
GPU..... I know you only play older games...... but the GDDR5 memory in the 4870 and 4890 models are great. and these both have directx 10.1.... the in-between for directx 11.

once all your data is in you should start to see people providing possible build combos.... normally from newegg.
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August 15, 2009 2:32:29 AM

My apologies for the previous post! Sorry x_x
APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE:
Perhaps sometimes this year
Budget Range USD500-600

SYSTEM USAGE
Older lower end games like the Sims 2 and 3
Internet, Wordprocessing, Movies, Video editing

Parts Not Required:
Keyboard
Mouse
Speakers
Monitor (I dont have the funds to get a new brand spanking LCD, so I will be using a CRT ;-;)
OS

Websites for Parts:
Any site is good as long as it has good ratings, like newegg.com
Stores that have their Base in New York City are preferred. Sotres like J&R or B&H.

Parts Preferences:
Cheap and good?
Intel/nVIDIA preferred

Overclocking: Maybe
SLI/Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1280x1024

Additional Comments: It needs to run VERY cool fan based.

Parts I have already picked:
CASE: (alternatives accepted)
Antec Nine Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

MOBO: (alternatives accepted)
GIGABYTE GA-EP45C-UD3R LGA 775 Intel P45 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU: (alternatives accepted)
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8400 Yorkfield 2.66GHz 4MB L2 Cache LGA 775 95W Quad-Core Processor - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU:
A Corsair 500W or something of a similar sort.

GPU: Something cheap and simple - the lastest Raedon might have too much power :D !
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August 15, 2009 3:07:34 AM

sushiserv said:


So i am planning on building a new computer. Now i have been told by
some people i was conversing with that i should just wait for the i5
from Intel (i am building an Intel based computer for the reason that
AMD multicores seem to be crap and i am an Intel common stock holder.




Since you are so common a stockholder why dont you just ring intels CEO and tell them to start selling the cpu's theyre holding back so they can sell off their stocks of obsolete c2quads?
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August 15, 2009 4:40:29 AM

ouch. that was just so that no said to me 'oh intel is crap why are you doing an intel troll troll troll'

edit: personally i dont liek it when people post and cant help :( 
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August 15, 2009 5:00:42 AM

Since socket 775 is at the end of its life , and perhaps already out of production , its a bigger ask to for it to last for 5 years .
DDR2 is also on the edge of extinction , and ddr3 is mainstream now .

The best choices are to build using AMD / AM3 with DDR3 which is currently far better value than any intel offering in your price range

OR wait for i5 and see if intel are price competitive

Its the bang for buck issue thats hard to compute because I suspect if it is then AMD will just drop their prices to maintain the status quo of having the best mass market value
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August 15, 2009 5:14:55 AM

sometime this year? ok that means you can wait till October time frame when prices on current gen intel will be decently priced (i7 920 [LGA1366] or Q9650 [LGA775] both should be around $180-200). Also Nvidia should have announced at least thier directx 11 planned cards.... this will bring down the price of GPU's.

as for right now.... if you were to build one today this is what I would go for in your price range......

Cooler Master 690 ........ $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ 550W PSU....... $65
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Lite-On DVD burner...... $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

WD Caviar Black 640 GB HDD...... $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

These are about as low as you get.... $240
That leaves $260-360 for CPU, MOBO, RAM, and GPU....... and you want windows based.... ouch!

give me a sec on the rest.....
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August 15, 2009 5:17:34 AM

on your budget, AMD would be sooooooo much better. so let me work on 2 builds.... you intel (which will be over $360 more than likely) and AMD (which might scrape by)
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August 15, 2009 5:40:23 AM

AMD Phenom II x4 945 3.0 Ghz and Biostar TA790GX MOBO combo...... $270
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Crucial 4GB DDR3 1333 cas 6..... $74
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The onboard graphis will play sims 3..... for ATI cards you need any GPU x300 or above. So a 3200 wouldn't work but a 3300 would... but not great graphics. By leaving out the graphics card, your system will be cooler, which you wanted anyways.... more later. Gotta get back to work.

Sims 3 requirements
http://www.cleartechinfo.com/Cant-Play-The-SIMS-3-Compu...
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August 15, 2009 7:34:04 AM

You stayed with your current CPU for 5 years which means you may be sticking with your next CPU for the next 5 years. If you're not into upgrading every year or every other year, you're probably value minded which makes AMD the better choice.
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August 15, 2009 7:52:00 AM

Out_lander04 > 2nd post > I see pure reason in that. I think I will wait for the i5 to be released and hope for a price drop in the current AMD market.
- > Thanks for making me see the big picture here. Just because I am a stock holder, my money is mine and I can buy whatever I want :D !

billdo02 > 2nd, 3rd, and 4th posts >
About the case: after seeing that case, I jizzed in my pants (if girls can do that :\)
About the HDD: I have a 500GB from WD, I will be using that, but buying another HDD for storage isn't a bad idea either.
About the mobo + processor combo: I hope that combo sticks around after the release of the i5. Thank you for this post.
About the GPU: I guess I won't be getting a GPU then. More money in my wallet.
- > I am very glad I posted on this forum, you have helped to cut down my costs and you were very helpful in the process. I will be sure to fill all 7 fan slots :3 with my left over cash.

hundredislandsboy > Heh, thanks for the compliment. Yes I am very value minded - I like money for clothing and food, and even then I don't buy a lot of that.
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August 15, 2009 12:53:03 PM

your welcome. and keep us informed of how your search goes.... I would plan my build for the end of October timeframe for best bang for the buck. Prices on older parts will drop for christmas shopping and because the i5 came out.

as for the case.... yeah I love it. I got one for the build I just did and like it a lot. Watch for free shipping on your case and PSU..... these things cost $15-25 each to ship otherwise.
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August 22, 2009 2:16:27 AM

can i select them all as best answer o_O?
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