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August 16, 2009 2:26:54 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Within 2 weeks

BUDGET RANGE: US $1600

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT: Video editing, Gaming, Surfing the internet, Watching movies)

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: Keyboard, Mouse, Monitor, Speakers, OS, UPS and Hard Drives

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: Newegg.com

PARTS PREFERENCES: Nvidia cards and Intel CPU

OVERCLOCKING: Yes and SLI

MONITOR RESOLUTION: I use a 22" LCD flat screen Monitor at 1680x1050 normally

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:

I want the case to have a clear side for lights

I am sticking with my current 22" monitor for the time being but will upgrade in the near future. Looking into 24" + sizes

I have a single 60Gig SSD for the OS and a single 1TB drive for storage

I will be purchasing 2 Nvidia cards for SLI

My main scare on this build is if everything will fit inside the case without issues.

Will I also need an extender power cable for the motherboard power as the PSU will be at the bottom of the case?

I am also worried about the size of the Cpu cooler and if there will be any interference with memory slots or case clearance

PARTS

CASE : LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 Black 0.8 mm SECC, Plastic + Mesh ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail = $129.00

POWER SUPPLY : CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... - Retail = $119.99

MOTHERBOARD : ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail = $289.99

GRAPHICS (X2): EVGA 896-P3-1257-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI ... - Retail 2 X $189.99 = $379.98

CPU : Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail = $279.99

MEMORY : OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1600LV6GK - Retail = $114.99

CPU HEATSINK : COOLER MASTER V8 RR-UV8-XBU1-GP 120mm Rifle CPU Cooler - Retail = $54.99

DVD : Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM = $25.99

This Brings my total to $1,395.91 before taxes and shipping.

My last build was about 4 years ago and I am still using it
Nvidia EVGA 680i motherboard
EVGA 8800 GTS 640Meg
2 Gig Ram
Intel C2D 6400 running at stock

This system will be going to my 12 year old son and the new build will be for me. I play a lot of FPS games and a little warcraft at times when I am bored. I do a lot of video editing ( mostly weddings, training videos and dog/horse shows )

I will be running Windows 7 upon release. Using The latest RC at the moment.

Any suggestions, comments or answers to my questions please feel free to post.

Thanks in advance
August 16, 2009 2:59:14 PM

The case will support both your GTX260's. The case supports up to 11.5" GPU's in 3-SLI according to the case specifications.

I would switch your HSF to either the Xigmatek Dark Knight or CoGaGe TRUE for better performance for less.

If you live near a Microcenter, they have i7 920 for $199.99 and I would recommend the HAF932 from Microcenter since it is $119.99... this is all of course if you live near one. :) 
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August 16, 2009 4:02:06 PM

Thanks Tecmo34

The LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 case is still out of stock at newegg so I have been looking at alternatives. I do not live near a Microcenter however so it will all be ordered online.

I have been looking at the Antec 1200 case. I think with 8-pin and 24-pin extension cables so that I can route all wires behind the motherboard may be the way I will go. I have always used Lian Li cases in the past but I am impressed with Antec

I like the look of the Xigmatek Dark Knight as well.

I see in your sig that you are pretty much using the same setup I am ordering. I assume you are happy with your rig?
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August 16, 2009 4:11:33 PM

also look at th cooler master haf 932 or lian li armour suit
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August 16, 2009 4:22:22 PM

Everything looks good, now when you got your PC parts chosen you should probably start with the moddings ( Led's etc ) with your spare cash =]

are you sure you wanna go with that case? Pick out a nice looking but very cool case.
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August 16, 2009 4:41:54 PM

I took a look at a few more cases like the COOLER MASTER HAF 932 and Antec 1200.

I am now leaning towards the Antec mainly for cable management.

I do want to put cool looking lights inside like a sound activated cold cathode or two, so having all the cables run behind the motherboard is key

I will be doing some mild overclocking of the I7 920 but nothing to high so a GOOD heatsink on the CPU is a must. I am liking the reviews of the Xigmatek Dark Knight
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August 16, 2009 4:44:47 PM

Forgot to mention I also took a look at the black TRUE 120 CPU cooler and I am wondering if it would block access to the memory slots?
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August 16, 2009 4:59:17 PM

I would go with the Dark Knight, I can personally guarantee to you that it fits in the Antec 1200 just fine and that it also will not black the RAM slots on the ASUS p6t deluxe v2. It is also one of the best i7 air coolers too!
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August 16, 2009 5:06:06 PM

mail4youtoo said:
Thanks Tecmo34

The LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 case is still out of stock at newegg so I have been looking at alternatives. I do not live near a Microcenter however so it will all be ordered online.

I have been looking at the Antec 1200 case. I think with 8-pin and 24-pin extension cables so that I can route all wires behind the motherboard may be the way I will go. I have always used Lian Li cases in the past but I am impressed with Antec

I like the look of the Xigmatek Dark Knight as well.

I see in your sig that you are pretty much using the same setup I am ordering. I assume you are happy with your rig?

I really enjoy my rig... There isn't much I can't play on max settings. I have my CPU at 3.2 and runs pretty cool with the DK. I have to re-do my thermal compound to get my OC higher (didn't apply it right at first but have suitable temps so haven't messed with it).

For the 1200, I would just get the 8-pin extension. You should have enough length on the 24-pin to run behind the MOBO.
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August 16, 2009 6:14:24 PM

mail4youtoo said:
Forgot to mention I also took a look at the black TRUE 120 CPU cooler and I am wondering if it would block access to the memory slots?
No it will not block any memory slots. here are two CPU Coolers you should look at.
CoGage True Spirit Heatpipe CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Silent Fan for Intel LGA1366 $37.95
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

Thermalright Ultra120 eXtreme-1366 RT Premium Heatpipe Cooler for Intel LGA1366 $74.95
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

One of the latest Reviews on 1366 CPU HSF Coolers'.
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2009/07/23/intel_core_i7...

Found the Lian Li Case
Lian Li Lancool Dragon Lord PC-K62 Aluminum/ SECC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $129.99
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_p...

Great Deal on this Corsair PSU, it is the same price as the 750w after MIR.
CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W $139.99 ($109.99 after $30.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Items you will need.
Thermal Compound.
Noctua NT-H1 Thermal Compound - Retail $9.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You will need this 8-pin Power Extension Cable for most Cases that has Bottom Mounted PSU.
1ST PC CORP. 12" 8-pin EPS extension cable Model CB-8M-8F - Retail $8.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Performance-PCS is a very good Online e-tailer, they usually have hard to find and custom computer parts that mainline sites do not. They even ship out by US Priority Mail with Delivery Confirmation and also accept PayPal.

Good Luck on your upcoming Build.
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August 17, 2009 2:51:10 PM

Updated parts list with changes suggested by others

CASE : Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail = $169.99

POWER SUPPLY : CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail = $139.99

MOTHERBOARD : ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail = $289.99

GRAPHICS (X2) : EVGA 896-P3-1257-AR GeForce GTX 260 Core 216 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI ... - Retail = 2 X $189.99 = $379.98

CPU : Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail = $279.99

MEMORY : OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1600LV6GK - Retail = $114.99

CPU HEATSINK : XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail = $44.98

DVD : Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM = $29.99

KEYBOARD : Logitech G15 USB Wired Standard Gaming Keyboard - Retail = $74.99

8-PIN Extension : 1ST PC CORP. 12" 8-pin EPS extension cable Model CB-8M-8F - Retail = $8.99

10-PIN Extension : Athena Power 10 " Extension & Conversion Four-In-One Model CABLE-M204M204F - Retail = $6.99

I know I most likely will not need the 10-Pin extension cable but for only $7 it would not hurt.

I decided on the Antec 1200 case based on user suggestions and reviews. I like the look as well

I already have Arctic Silver 5 compound

My son has wanted a gaming keyboard for some time so I thought I would surprise him with one

I will receive $90 in mail in rebates. 2x$30 for the GPUs and $30 for the PSU

I upgraded the PSU to 850W from Yoosty's suggestion and the great deal

I will most likely mod the side panel with a full clear window as seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SroKo2k74g

I am going to hold off a bit on the cold cathodes.

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I should be placing my order this week with hopes of building everything during labor day week.

Not sure if its ever done here but I will post some pics of the build once complete.

One last question...

Should I mount the XIGMATEK Dark Knight blowing up through the top or out through the back?

Thank you everyone




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August 17, 2009 4:03:04 PM

Mount the Dark Knight where the air is blowing out through the back... I've attached a picture to show you want is will look like in the Antec 1200. You want it this direction because the 1200 is sucking air in from the front and you want it to be blown out the back of the case.

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August 17, 2009 4:03:36 PM

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One last question...

Should I mount the XIGMATEK Dark Knight blowing up through the top or out through the back?
That is a tough one, usuually you would have it blowing out the back. Since the Antec 1200 has great Airflow, but aeeing you are getting a pair of Evga GTX 260's, you might want to have it going out the top.

But also see two other Evga cards you might want to look at, they are the newer GTX 275 and the prices are only $40 to $70 more for t he pair, plus they have higher clock speed and those cards move there heat outside the case.
EVGA 896-P3-1170-AR GeForce GTX 275 896MB 448-bit $229.99 ($209.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

EVGA 896-P3-1171-AR GeForce GTX 275 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit $234.99 ($214.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Anyway that is a great build specs you have there.


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August 17, 2009 7:00:51 PM

+1 ^ I would spend a little extra cash and get the gtx 275's. It would definitely benefit the airflow as Yoosty said.
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August 18, 2009 4:38:00 PM

Any real difference in the two GTX275 cards?

EVGA 896-P3-1170-AR GeForce GTX 275 896MB 448-bit $229.99 ($209.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


EVGA 896-P3-1171-AR GeForce GTX 275 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit $234.99 ($214.99 after $20.00 Mail-In Rebate) Free Shipping*
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

From what I understand from the last few posts is that the GTX260s do NOT blow air out the back of the case like the GTX275s do?
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August 18, 2009 4:42:37 PM

That is correct. The difference between the two cards you posted is the more expensive one is a factory overclocked version. I would go for that one because it is only $5 more then the stock version. Generally factory overclocked GPU's can overclock even further and be more stable then a stock version.
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August 18, 2009 5:04:10 PM

Actually I'm gonna go out on a limb and not recommend the factory overclock version. I find that the chips aren't really any higher quality than the stock ones, just that they pick some good ones from the batch and clock them to that level. It is pretty much dependent on what you get since my stock 260 can even match the EVGA FTW speeds.

And in most cases anything less than the ftw level of overclock will result in only negligible gains anyway. Besides, gpus are by far the easiest to overclock, so I say don't spend the extra cash on factory overclocked ones.

I would definitely go with the 275's though if you had the cash, their performance is superb for the price. Again I recommend the stock one.
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August 18, 2009 5:04:45 PM

Okay,

I believe this is the final revision of my list. It brings me to $1,630.87 before shipping and taxes which is fine for my budget. That leaves me about $300 left if I were to purchase a new monitor now.

I saw this from Tiger Direct
MONITOR : I-Inc iF-281DPB 28" Widescreen LCD Monitor - 1920x1200 = $279.99

I know its a cheap no-name brand but the specs looked good

My Confirmed parts list

CASE : Antec Twelve Hundred Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case - Retail = $169.99

POWER SUPPLY : CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply - Retail = $139.99

MOTHERBOARD : ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail = $289.99

GRAPHICS (X2) : EVGA 896-P3-1171-AR GeForce GTX 275 Superclocked Edition 896MB 448-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported ... - Retail = 2 X $234.99 = $469.98

CPU : Intel Core i7 920 Nehalem 2.66GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor Model BX80601920 - Retail = $279.99

MEMORY : OCZ Platinum 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Low Voltage Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P1600LV6GK - Retail = $114.99

CPU HEATSINK : XIGMATEK Dark Knight-S1283V 120mm Long Life Bearing CPU Cooler - Retail = $44.98

DVD : Sony Optiarc 24X DVD/CD Rewritable Drive Black SATA Model AD-7240S-0B - OEM = $29.99

KEYBOARD : Logitech G15 USB Wired Standard Gaming Keyboard - Retail = $74.99

8-PIN Extension : 1ST PC CORP. 12" 8-pin EPS extension cable Model CB-8M-8F - Retail = $8.99

10-PIN Extension : Athena Power 10 " Extension & Conversion Four-In-One Model CABLE-M204M204F - Retail = $6.99


Thank you all for the help and suggestions. I am really looking forward to building it. I'm not sure about most of you on these forums but I find building the systems more enjoyable than using them. I also know my son will love his new PC when I hand my older one down to him.
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August 18, 2009 5:13:56 PM

Looks good!! Good luck with the build. :D 
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August 18, 2009 5:26:11 PM

Haha I completely agree about building it being more fun then using it. I probably take my system apart at least once every 3 months and rebuild it/redo the wiring. Anyways good luck with the build and please post pictures of it when it is complete.

As for that monitor you listed, I would actually go to a local store and look at the monitors to see what picture you like the best. Then I would look online for the one that you liked in the store to see if you can find it for cheaper. It still is nice getting a monitor locally because if there are any dead pixels or something wrong you can simply return it with no shipping hassles.
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August 18, 2009 5:27:06 PM

Good luck from me as well, please post pictures if you get a chance.
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